Are drugs (alcohol, caffeine, smoking...) a necessary thing to cope with society reality?

[Blacksheep]

I know any kind of drug is not healthy... But based on the context of the society we live in and what humans are facing, it seems that there must always have a scape valve from reality (drugs or not) to help to turn off from reality a bit.

I used to think that we should be 100% healthy all the time with everything. But I'm questioning it lately. I don't know if there is a reason to took life so seriously.

For example, when I'm only working and studying... I tend to eat more junk foods. When I start to socialize more, have sex, going out and even drinking some gin, I eat better. It's like changing a scape valve for another. Or maybe this is just a addiction mindset I don't know.

Maybe is a matter of extreme. But it's a point I've been thinking off.

Would like to hear some ideas here.

 

[SargeMaximus]

No. I use video games, and read books. I’m very happy most of the time. I’m also far removed from anything resembling a social circle.

 

[Blacksheep]

No. I use video games, and read books. I’m very happy most of the time. I’m also far removed from anything resembling a social circle.

I also use that too and it works pretty good. Maybe its a question of finding a healthy addiction.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I also use that too and it works pretty good. Maybe its a question of finding a healthy addiction.

I think so. I also use the gym but it’s closed because of covid.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Yes. Im a caffeine user. Not ashamed one bit.

Western society is fvcked. Just make sure your vice of choice is something you can live with.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

I know any kind of drug is not healthy... But based on the context of the society we live in and what humans are facing, it seems that there must always have a scape valve from reality (drugs or not) to help to turn off from reality a bit.

I used to think that we should be 100% healthy all the time with everything. But I'm questioning it lately. I don't know if there is a reason to took life so seriously.

For example, when I'm only working and studying... I tend to eat more junk foods. When I start to socialize more, have sex, going out and even drinking some gin, I eat better. It's like changing a scape valve for another. Or maybe this is just a addiction mindset I don't know.

Maybe is a matter of extreme. But it's a point I've been thinking off.

Would like to hear some ideas here.

Trying hard not to judge but you sound weak. Stop complaining about the state of society and things you cannot control, and find a good challenge for yourself. The main problem with men today is we are not being challenged. We are being distracted by stupid video games, sports, porn, pandemics, etc, etc. Get your chin up and find a challenge for yourself and that challenge will become your "drug".

Growth and progress can be addicting with the right mindset.


Modern Man Advice

 

[lost_blackbird]

My PS5, caffeine and alcohol are the only things that stop me jumping off a bridge.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

My PS5, caffeine and alcohol are the only things that stop me jumping off a bridge.

Mate, your posts concern me. Should we be worrying and keeping an eye on you?

We (SS/Manosphere community) are here to help.

Modern Man Advice

 

[lost_blackbird]

If I don't say it here then it just doesn't get heard by anyone.
I don't have anybody in my life who gives a toss about me.
I have to keep my mask on day to day just so I can function. So those
I see most often like the people at work and in bars I frequent have no idea
of the pain I'm in. There's not a single thing about my "life" I enjoy.

 

[FlexpertHamilton]

Everyone has a vice. Even "straight edges"' are probably addicted to video games, junk food, TV shows, social media, or all of the above. The idea that you can go without any vices (especially drugs) is related to the cancerous "puritan work ethic" that is pervasive throughout our culture. Don't take life so seriously, it's not all a grind. Enjoy the pleasures life has to offer without clinging to them or seeking them out.

Nothing wrong with most drug use even, imo, if you're smart about it.

...That said, if you want to detach from the insanity of the modern world, the best thing to do is unplug from everything, ditch your smartphone, and only use technology sparingly.

 

[Xenom0rph]

I used to be anti-drugs in all forms whether it be recreational drugs that get you high, prescription drugs, or PEDs (roids).....

But as I get older I begin to see why some people use them. I'm not glorifying the use of drugs nor am I encouraging it. I've just developed more of an understanding of why some people fall into that cycle of use/abuse...

Modern society is freaking harsh, especially if you work in a toxic corporate environment where everybody is walking on eggshells.

Myself personally, I take a few shots of whiskey every once in a while to unwind.

I also use Finasteride (and recently upgraded to Dutasteride every 2 days) to save my hair. I use Cialis/Viagra/Levitra to combat the ED that comes with DHT suppression.

I'm also thinking about hopping on TRT and maybe even implementing some other enhancements to maximize my physique.

The standards of modern society are increasing every year, a man has to do everything (within his comfort zone) he can to keep pace.

 

[Blacksheep]

Trying hard not to judge but you sound weak. Stop complaining about the state of society and things you cannot control, and find a good challenge for yourself. The main problem with men today is we are not being challenged. We are being distracted by stupid video games, sports, porn, pandemics, etc, etc. Get your chin up and find a challenge for yourself and that challenge will become your "drug".

Growth and progress can be addicting with the right mindset.


Modern Man Advice

I'm questioning that thing you said. This is very motivational and I think its useful sometimes.

But I don't know if its healthy to assume that we should not be weak. What is the problem of being weak? Wasn't it a weakness mindset trying to believe that we are not weak? Like denying that we are not perfect of strong enough.

And wouldn't be better if we accept that sometimes we can't just be strong enough, and thats ok? Not that we should not pursue it, but not in a sense of blaming ourselves for that. Because it doesn't seem a realistic goal... Life is full of impermanence.

Btw, I'm just throwing questions here ok, cause I think this is a good point of discussion.

 

[Blacksheep]

If I don't say it here then it just doesn't get heard by anyone.
I don't have anybody in my life who gives a toss about me.
I have to keep my mask on day to day just so I can function. So those
I see most often like the people at work and in bars I frequent have no idea
of the pain I'm in. There's not a single thing about my "life" I enjoy.

Sometimes life is very hard man, I can understand that. I went through that in some moments of my life.

If you need any help, or just want to talk. I know how it is to be on the darkness and have those feelings.

But, just don't give up fighting. It's hard, we fall... And we don't have to be strong all the times. But those situations are what make us strong.

 

[Blacksheep]

Everyone has a vice. Even "straight edges"' are probably addicted to video games, junk food, TV shows, social media, or all of the above. The idea that you can go without any vices (especially drugs) is related to the cancerous "puritan work ethic" that is pervasive throughout our culture. Don't take life so seriously, it's not all a grind. Enjoy the pleasures life has to offer without clinging to them or seeking them out.

Nothing wrong with most drug use even, imo, if you're smart about it.

...That said, if you want to detach from the insanity of the modern world, the best thing to do is unplug from everything, ditch your smartphone, and only use technology sparingly.

Great point man! Thanks!

 

[Blacksheep]

I used to be anti-drugs in all forms whether it be recreational drugs that get you high, prescription drugs, or PEDs (roids).....

But as I get older I begin to see why some people use them. I'm not glorifying the use of drugs nor am I encouraging it. I've just developed more of an understanding of why some people fall into that cycle of use/abuse...

Modern society is freaking harsh, especially if you work in a toxic corporate environment where everybody is walking on eggshells.

Myself personally, I take a few shots of whiskey every once in a while to unwind.

I also use Finasteride (and recently upgraded to Dutasteride every 2 days) to save my hair. I use Cialis/Viagra/Levitra to combat the ED that comes with DHT suppression.

I'm also thinking about hopping on TRT and maybe even implementing some other enhancements to maximize my physique.

The standards of modern society are increasing every year, a man has to do everything (within his comfort zone) he can to keep pace.

I used to be anti-drugs too. But sometimes I just think, drugs in some way is a good way to make this life more acceptable. Opening my eyes to a lot of things, or getting out of that matrix is a bit painful... And sometimes there is no funny in life.

My mainly drugs are alcohol and cialis. Cialis helps a lot witht ED. I have it because I'm overweight and also I have sexual anxiety with condoms.

Also I'm taking bupropion for depression (but this one I wanna get rid of soon).

 

[BackInTheGame78]

No. Acceptance of reality is all that is needed to cope with it. Once you accept things are how they are then you can go about making meaningful changes to your life based off that.

 

[Blacksheep]

No. Acceptance of reality is all that is needed to cope with it. Once you accept things are how they are then you can go about making meaningful changes to your life based off that.

That makes sense!

But some things are still a bit hard for me to accept, maybe thats why I feel the need to scape from those feelings.

Still those are things about the abusive situation with my parents.

Without those pains, maybe it could be a bit easier

 

[AureliusMaximus]

I know any kind of drug is not healthy... But based on the context of the society we live in and what humans are facing, it seems that there must always have a scape valve from reality (drugs or not) to help to turn off from reality a bit.

I used to think that we should be 100% healthy all the time with everything. But I'm questioning it lately. I don't know if there is a reason to took life so seriously.

For example, when I'm only working and studying... I tend to eat more junk foods. When I start to socialize more, have sex, going out and even drinking some gin, I eat better. It's like changing a scape valve for another. Or maybe this is just a addiction mindset I don't know.

Maybe is a matter of extreme. But it's a point I've been thinking off.

Would like to hear some ideas here.

Everything is a choice. You can for example still go to the club and party without drinking alcohol and pickup chicks. Most people drink because they are too chicken-sh'it to do approaches on girls unless they are drunk...

Same thing applies to bad choices like eating bad food, smoking not training, drinking coffee etc etc

Yes; you can throw all these away because you do not need them and you will have a way better healthier life too if you want, because life is about choices. It's up to you.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Myself personally, I take a few shots of whiskey every once in a while to unwind.

But do you really need to "unwind"??

I fall into doing "unwind" too so I ain't no saint either after coming home from work instead of going to to bed directly, (Not drinking through but like watching discovery science/history channel on TV or playing a game on the pc.), thus sitting up for additional hours.

Theoretically isn't the "unwind" part just a state of mind/habit you can just break and skip fully?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That makes sense!

But some things are still a bit hard for me to accept, maybe thats why I feel the need to scape from those feelings.

Still those are things about the abusive situation with my parents.

Without those pains, maybe it could be a bit easier

You can either have a present life and a future life or a present life and a past life. You can't have both.

Let go of the past if you want to have a future.