Do Women Get Angry if You Don’t Act Beta?

[SargeMaximus]

The whole DGAF thing on its own is too autistic. You've gotta combine it with charm, attractiveness and Game. Most guys don't know how to balance and project this correctly.

Yeah I think that's something I definitely have. Not sure how to be charming tbh. And don't really want to risk getting fired because some husband catches me being charming with his wife.

 

[SargeMaximus]

You have to learn how to turn anything into a conversation. I mean, anything.

Actively listen, and genuinely be interested in what people are saying.

That would be disingenuous

 

[SargeMaximus]

If you want people to think you're charming, it's all about sincerity.

You absolutely must be able to fake sincerity.

I don't. I was just trying to figure out why some women get mad at me when I'm doing my job. This isn't a "how can I be more charming?" topic.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Maybe they're only inviting you in so you can give them attention. When they see you're all about the sale they become frustrated because you didn't validate them.

Oh they don’t invite me in. I never said that. This is all happening at the door.

 

[SargeMaximus]

See?

This is what happens when I try to be a friendly guy and make conversation.

I used to have 16 posters on my Ignore list, but then I thought, 'Hank, maybe you're being too rigid.' So, I unignored everyone.

But here we are, and you're proving I wasn't too rigid.

You’re not helping since the “advice” your giving wasn’t relevant to the topic. No need to get butt hurt.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Just making light-hearted conversation with you. You know, like people do.

Geez.

You must've been toilet trained at gunpoint.

You must have never been appreciated as a kid. Thank you Hank for attempting to help.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Stop being a sociopath. I was just trying to converse with you.

Not every interaction we have with other people has to be transactional.

I’m a sales guy. My ex said the same thing interestingly enough.

 

[SargeMaximus]

I'm in Sales too. I'm probably better at it than you are though.

jk jk

If you haven't already, you should read How to Win Friends and Influence People by Dale Carnegie

Read it years ago. Everyone suggests that book.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Either way. Maybe they're thinking they can suck some intersexual dynamic attention from you at the door, but they become frustrated when they see you're not biting, and are all about the sale.

I think you’re right.

 

[bat soup]

Hey guys, I’m back doing door to door again and having a blast. There is something I’ve noticed tho that sometimes happens and it’s with attractive women. I just notice they seem very angry at me sometimes. I speak to hundreds of people a year and I can tell you my door presence is on point so I’ve started to suspect maybe it’s the fact that I am Unphased by these attractive women. I can’t think of any other reason why they get so angry and short with me sometimes.

I been doing this for 7 years so it’s not that I’m bad at it or being socially retarded.

anyone else ever noticed attractive women getting angry if you genuinely DGAF about her one way or the other?

Hey guys, I’m back doing door to door again and having a blast. There is something I’ve noticed tho that sometimes happens and it’s with attractive women. I just notice they seem very angry at me sometimes. I speak to hundreds of people a year and I can tell you my door presence is on point so I’ve started to suspect maybe it’s the fact that I am Unphased by these attractive women. I can’t think of any other reason why they get so angry and short with me sometimes.

I been doing this for 7 years so it’s not that I’m bad at it or being socially retarded.

anyone else ever noticed attractive women getting angry if you genuinely DGAF about her one way or the other?

Zero tolerance for angry women. If a woman is angry, then goodbye.

 

[derby1]

Yes its because your social status(door to door sales) doesnt match up with your alpha personality...

Ie: I earn 35 thousand uk pounds a year, and soon as women find out i have masculine frame, and wont be their simp from simpsville, they 99% go cold.

why? because my lifestyle isnt "much" better than their welfare/job lifestyle.....(its in theory better, but not 4 bedroom house better), make sense?

my mate earns 100k a year with the same behaviour, his missus "adores" him.

she thinks she adores him, she actually adores his social status......5 holidays a year, his and her ford ranger trucks, 4 bedroom house.

 

[B80]

Yes its because your social status(door to door sales) doesnt match up with your alpha personality...

Ie: I earn 35 thousand uk pounds a year, and soon as women find out i have masculine frame, and wont be their simp from simpsville, they 99% go cold.

why? because my lifestyle isnt "much" better than their welfare/job lifestyle.....(its in theory better, but not 4 bedroom house better), make sense?

my mate earns 100k a year with the same behaviour, his missus "adores" him.

she thinks she adores him, she actually adores his social status......5 holidays a year, his and her ford ranger trucks, 4 bedroom house.

funny thing is 35k is above the median wage for every county in the UK. obviously london is has much higher % of high wage earners. 35k in the midlands and up north is a decent income compared to most up there. most don't earn north of 25-30k - if that. where do you live?

But yes, comes down to women loving what you bring to the table, rather than truely loving you as such, if you believe the Red Pill philosophy.

Lets hope he has a career that means he'll always earn that, otherwise will soon find out what her true intentions are. If it happened and they did split, she'd o doubt come up with some socially acceptable cr4p about him being a d1ck, not feeling it anymore etc.

Woman I was seeing would share stories about friends that had wealthy partners and stuff they'd buy them. Was quite astonishing some of it. She once told me about one friend who felt a bit unsure about her long term partner as he had a business and was divorced and refused to get married again. Would say how its unfair, as if he died she may not get anything. Was trying to paint the guy as an arsehole, selfish etc and I was thinking fair play to him, totally understand - after spending time on this site. I'd subtly point out that whilst her friend may not be all about his money, a lot of women are and after going through his divorce, having kids from previous marriage he has to look after that really.

In hindsight dodged a bullet as have little doubt now that girl I was seeing was expecting a man to bank roll/enable a certain lifestyle, as thats what her friends had. Was clearly testing waters to see if I'd be a simp and do similar. She also made several comments as we got to know each other better such as 'I know you shouldn;t say this, but money is really important to me'. Talk about buying range rovers, expensive houses etc. When she made comments around my money and spending it on her, I'd start semi joking about her having to earn it first. After we split up she started seeing a director and no doubt was hoping to get hooks into him.

 

[RangerMIke]

I think this is the closest to the truth here. But I thought women liked men who didn't treat them special or supplicate. When I first started in sales, I used to have trouble with hot women affecting my frame but not anymore. They are common enough that I'm used to seeing them. Once I was presenting to a uniersity girl who was in her tank top and panties. Didn't phase me. She didn't get angry tho so not a fair comparison.

Being non-reactive only works with women that are attracted to or finds you interesting. It's a way to filter out chicks that you don't have a shot with. If she is attracted/interested in you or whatever you are presenting, she will not react negatively. At that point you have something to work with.

How a woman reacts to your initial introduction and approach is VERY important. It tells you immediately if you have a shot. The initial impression is your baseline. Beautiful women get approached all the time, they are spoiled for choice, if you don't meet her baseline wants right from the start it is an uphill battle, with several dudes already in front of you.

 

[Grounded eagle]

Hey guys, I’m back doing door to door again and having a blast. There is something I’ve noticed tho that sometimes happens and it’s with attractive women. I just notice they seem very angry at me sometimes. I speak to hundreds of people a year and I can tell you my door presence is on point so I’ve started to suspect maybe it’s the fact that I am Unphased by these attractive women. I can’t think of any other reason why they get so angry and short with me sometimes.

I been doing this for 7 years so it’s not that I’m bad at it or being socially retarded.

anyone else ever noticed attractive women getting angry if you genuinely DGAF about her one way or the other?

Yeah.They feel entitled.Like every guy should bend over backwards for them just because they’re attractive.So when a guy doesn’t do it,he’s rocking the boat.Acting this way can make the guys who do it more attractive to them though.

 

[derby1]

funny thing is 35k is above the median wage for every county in the UK. obviously london is has much higher % of high wage earners. 35k in the midlands and up north is a decent income compared to most up there. most don't earn north of 25-30k - if that. where do you live?

I live in the midlands, I think the point I was trying to make was, I only have to have a couple more starbucks here and there, or put a bit of petrol in the M3 and suddenly I dont live that much of a different life than a mom on the welfare, who are also given very decent houses now, and are cash rich if they have the baby daddies in order

its not as if Im a sudden jump to 60k and a 4 bedroom house if you get me

Beautiful women get approached all the time, they are spoiled for choice,

So are mediocre women who are behind in life, men as a group are pathetic

 

[B80]

I live in the midlands, I think the point I was trying to make was, I only have to have a couple more starbucks here and there, or put a bit of petrol in the M3 and suddenly I dont live that much of a different life than a mom on the welfare, who are also given very decent houses now, and are cash rich if they have the baby daddies in order

its not as if Im a sudden jump to 60k and a 4 bedroom house if you get me



So are mediocre women who are behind in life, men as a group are pathetic

Yeah I get what you were saying. Statistically, 35k is a decent, above average wage in most areas of the UK. House prices very reasonable in midlands in general as well compared to the London and the south.

I don't think welfare mums get much more than 20k a year though, if that, unless also getting disability allowance - hardly a comfortable life imo.

Nice car, I bought my first M3 F80 a few months ago. They;re not cheap cars to run though!!

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Either way. Maybe they're thinking they can suck some intersexual dynamic attention from you at the door, but they become frustrated when they see you're not biting, and are all about the sale.

Submit into the desire for her sexuality. So a good salesman is hardened against that?

 

[bat soup]

I'm not a salesman so I wouldn't know for sure. I would think a good salesman would be hardened from expressing any personal intentions/feelings about things.

Always be closing. AIDA. You got the prospects coming in. Do you think they came in to get out of the rain?

 

[SargeMaximus]

The truth is you see so many people and so many different interactions you get numb to it. An angry woman slamming a door like yesterday doesn’t bother me at all but I wondered if there was an angle

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Hey guys, I’m back doing door to door again and having a blast. There is something I’ve noticed tho that sometimes happens and it’s with attractive women. I just notice they seem very angry at me sometimes. I speak to hundreds of people a year and I can tell you my door presence is on point so I’ve started to suspect maybe it’s the fact that I am Unphased by these attractive women. I can’t think of any other reason why they get so angry and short with me sometimes.

I been doing this for 7 years so it’s not that I’m bad at it or being socially retarded.

anyone else ever noticed attractive women getting angry if you genuinely DGAF about her one way or the other?

That's because you are perceived as a threat to their entitlement. Also, most high-value men are often wrongly perceived as misogynists and therefore the enemy.

I have a lot of convos about Male Rights and such and oh boy, do I become the enemy and bad human being. But it is what it is, so yea just carry on.

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