I am involuntary celibate

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

OP is 43 not 23 yall. No girl gives a flying **** about a 43 year old's game, they only care about what value you can bring to them at this point. My dad remarried to a 30 year old around this age, so you are not **** out of luck.

1) What's your financial situation? What is your job?

2) Do you live in your own house or live in your mom's basement?

3) Do you hold any patriarchal alt right 4 chan rightwing incel views? GET RID OF IT!!

4) Start going to the gym, lose weight, focus on calories in and calories out and choose whatever exercise program that fits your liking.

 

[PRW63]

Hey guys. I am a 44 year old man. I lost my virginity at 19. I have had sporadic sexual encounters, mostly one night stands with girls from bars. I no longer drink. I often wonder what it is that I am doing wrong or what I could do better. It is kind of overwhelming, I do not know where to start. I dont really know how to interact with women in a sexual way. I have sex with lots of prostitutes and would like to stop doing that.

I could stand to lose 20 pounds, make more money, get better clothes, etc but ultimately I think my game is lacking most. I live in Columbus Ohio and would be interested in meeting other like minded men who are also interested in self improvement. Needless to say, there is much to improve.

Chamber36 recommended some great material in the first reply you got. But I want to also strongly recommend the 4 book series by Rollo Tomassi (who used to be a moderator here). These books are more science,...they aren't PUA or "How-to", but they give the critical foundation to build what you learn from the others on top of.

1. The Rational Male
2. The Rational Male: Preventative Medicine
3. The Rational Male: Positive Masculinity
4. The Rational Male: Religion

Then to reiterate what Chamber36 listed:

1. How to be a 3% Man by Corey Wayne
2. The Way of the Superior Man by David Deida
3. The Game by Neil Strauss
4. Models by Mark Manson

 

[PRW63]

OP is 43 not 23 yall. No girl gives a flying **** about a 43 year old's game, they only care about what value you can bring to them at this point.

I don't think I would go along with that. I'm 58 and it still works for me when I choose to use it. Those 43yos still have to be home before dark

 

[BadBoy89]

*You dont have to be rich, you dont have to drive a Porsche, you dont have to be Brad Pitt to get into the top 10% of men.

What do you have to do to be in the top 10% of men?

 

[PRW63]

What do you have to do to be in the top 10% of men?

The woman you are dealing with in any particular moment has to consider you that. God only knows what their personal criteria for determining that will be. It is subjective. Don't waste time expecting it to be consistent across multiple women.

Studies by online dating companies have said that their women members who participated in the surveys consider 80% of men to be below average in attractiveness. But are the men REALLY below average? No. It is just women's screwed up perceptions. But like it or not women are driven by their perceptions,...you aren't going to change it.

So what am I saying for you to do? Just work on making yourself something that you are happy with and take pride in. You will get confidence with that and the confidence will be what people see more than anything else. The women who like you, will like you,...the ones that won't, aren't going to. You focus only on women who show a genuine interest in you when you approach them,...the rest are just "friends & acquaintances". You aren't going to "make" someone like you,...yes you can improve their view of you to a point, but it has limits.

 

[ThisIsSparta]

What do you have to do to be in the top 10% of men?

*be in good shape
*be kempt
*be well dressed
*be confident
*have a home where women feel comfortable enough to relax and lay off their clothes
*have a car in which women will get without being ashamed if their friends would see her
*have an income

 

[DonJuanjr]

have a home where women feel comfortable enough to relax and lay off their clothes

I don't understand this. What would a residence that isn't comfortable look like?

 

[Chamber36]

I don't understand this. What would a residence that isn't comfortable look like?

Like a sh*thole aka a crackden

 

[DonJuanjr]

Haha. I guess I was overthinking that one.

 

[ubercat]

Either troll or hopeless.

 

[Epicwinguy]

What’s your career and what state do you live in?

 

[DonJuanjr]

Either troll or hopeless.

If you're talking about me, excuse me for thinking there might be something more to one of the prongs of being a top 10% man, than just not living in what looks like a crack den.

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Hey guys. I am a 44 year old man. I lost my virginity at 19. I have had sporadic sexual encounters, mostly one night stands with girls from bars. I no longer drink. I often wonder what it is that I am doing wrong or what I could do better. It is kind of overwhelming, I do not know where to start. I dont really know how to interact with women in a sexual way. I have sex with lots of prostitutes and would like to stop doing that.

I could stand to lose 20 pounds, make more money, get better clothes, etc but ultimately I think my game is lacking most. I live in Columbus Ohio and would be interested in meeting other like minded men who are also interested in self improvement. Needless to say, there is much to improve.

I'll simplify this for you. Take @Chamber36 's advice and ignore @corrector 's questions (do not bother addressing him/her).

Modern Man Advice

 

[Epicwinguy]

I'll simplify this for you. Take @Chamber36 's advice and ignore @corrector 's questions (do not bother addressing him/her).

Modern Man Advice

Yeah corrector doesn’t even belong here.

 

[corrector]

Yeah corrector doesn’t even belong here.

How can people who make fun of incels actually give genuine advice the OP? You idiots attack me and lose credibility with the OP.
He can't take anyone seriously on here. You all might start ganging up on him too, start calling him a troll, saying he's not following advice when he complains nothing is happening after a few months.

 

[Epicwinguy]

How can people who make fun of incels actually give genuine advice the OP? You idiots attack me and lose credibility with the OP.
He can't take anyone seriously on here. You all might start ganging up on him too, start calling him a troll, saying he's not following advice when he complains nothing is happening after a few months.

The goal of this website goes against the Bible and a lot of other religions. Your posts annoy the **** out of me and a lot of other people.

 

[corrector]

The goal of this website goes against the Bible and a lot of other religions. Your posts annoy the **** out of me and a lot of other people.

I see your point. Something must have possessed me to keep posting on threads that have a title like "incel" or "escorts". Must be some knee jerk reaction. That is weird come to think of it.

 

[Chamber36]

I see your point. Something must have possessed me to keep posting on threads that have a title like "incel" or "escorts". Must be some knee jerk reaction. That is weird come to think of it.

Snarky

 

[BadBoy89]

*be in good shape
*be kempt
*be well dressed
*be confident
*have a home where women feel comfortable enough to relax and lay off their clothes
*have a car in which women will get without being ashamed if their friends would see her
*have an income

This is great stuff.

Yet the girl's age better remain 20 - 27 for all time. Because I'm doing all this for 30 something or 40 something woman who has been f*cked 18 different ways from Sunday...yikes.

 

[Epicwinguy]

I see your point. Something must have possessed me to keep posting on threads that have a title like "incel" or "escorts". Must be some knee jerk reaction. That is weird come to think of it.

You know what maybe you’ve had a point all along. I should stop chasing women or a demon will possess me. Maybe I should go on forums I have no business being on instead.