Can you be both the Alpha Fuk and Beta Buck?

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Attractive and inexpensive escorts don't exist, unless your idea of inexpensive is different to mine. You can certainly find inexpensive vietnamese escorts fresh out of a shipping container. But hot 19 year old white escorts are not cheap unless they are meth-heads.

Beta bux is paying women for sex, companionship, affection. OnlyFans, paying escorts etc are all beta bucks. Whether you're beta buxing 1 woman or 100. You're paying for it and that is the definition of beta bux - provisioning in exchange for sex
Attractive and inexpensive escorts exist in many countries. Most of Latin America, Germany, Austria, Belgium, and parts of Southeast Asia.

There is absolutely no way that anyone could get with as many, or as attractive, of girls than doing it that way.

And maybe we have different definitions of expensive? Probably because of my business and nearly $2 million of assets? But I suppose I'm the beta? Lol.

Many guys, such as myself, have no interest in the nonsense involved with relationships or even with "dating."
 

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Women generally do have horrible personalities, but if they are highly attracted to you then they will mold themselves to suit whatever you want. Women are like water and take the shape of their container.

Again, if you haven't experienced this then you won't know what I'm talking about. Part of the joy of properly seducing a woman is she becomes your mindslave/love slave and will do all in her power to satisfy you.
You sound like an inexperienced guy trying to pretend he's the opposite. How old are you?
 

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Have you ever thought that women give you "nonsense" because you're a beta provider and they don't respect you?

I see a correlation here.
I don't provide for any females lifestyle. And I never have.

You're trying to insult me because you're insecure.

And do you think these little princesses actually know what to respect? Their hair?
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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They're pretentious never goes away.
you mean that that girl will be pretentious no matter what. I get that. but no, there is a moment where she can be/is really yours. just yours and you are the focus of her everything. the deal is that it doesn't last long, with wisdom it can be extended and that's what most of the debates are about is how to either trigger that initially or how to extend it OR how to recover it when it's gone.

there definitely can be a moment where it's like that, and it's very enjoyable.
 

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You're funding their lifestyles and their egos by paying for their precious vaginas.



I don't pretend to know how attractive the girls are that you bang, but it highly doubt it. You're overall vibe is that of a man who is unhappy and bitter towards women, who offer nothing other than paid-for sex in your own opinion. Like I said earlier, paying for sex is bad for your inner-game and you're proving it.
I have never given enough money to 1 girl to fund anything significant.

I would guess that I've been with at least 100 girls that are hotter than the hottest girl you've ever been with.
 

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You can trigger it, you can extend it.....but you can never recover it when it's gone. She never un-sees the time she became unattracted to you, even if you get her back. Pure female attraction and high interest is a very delicate thing, and once it breaks you can try and glue it back together but it's never the same.
have you ever try to recover and tell from the experience? or is it only the tribal knowledge?
 

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She takes the money that you give her + the 100 other beta providers she has and it becomes a significant amount of money.

Your definition of hot is probably different to mine. I don't find hookers attractive. I see them as used-up *** dumpsters.
The women I sleep with are attractive for me. It's all a subjective thing. You might like black chicks for example. I don't.
Are any of them attractive? Obviously you can't see their face...

To me, there's a couple that are good enough to pay a little to have a good (great) time.

By far not the most attractive I've been with. Oh, and if I wanted, I could be with 2 or 3 at once. I can't even remember how many threesomes I've had.

Your posts obviously don't come from experience in life. Just regurgitating the same nonsense.
 

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Yes, I've been there once. It only had to happen once for me to learn my lesson.

What typically happens if she's very high interest and "loves you" is this. You will have the first breakup, then you'll get her back if you Game the right way and act unaffected and non-needy. You'll then notice that when you get her back she's just slightly "off". She's not quite the girl she once was. She's putting in slightly less effort.

What proceeds this are more breakups and reconciliations. Each time she comes back she's deader and deader. When the final breakup happens she'd already moved on months ago.
I don't think you've had any relationships that are more in-depth than a high school kid.

Any two people who live together or spend significant enough time around each other to see through the facade... Will start to see cracks and faults in the other person because we're just human. It's a waste of time to pretend otherwise.
 

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Yes, I've been there once. It only had to happen once for me to learn my lesson.

What typically happens if she's very high interest and "loves you" is this. You will have the first breakup, then you'll get her back if you Game the right way and act unaffected and non-needy. You'll then notice that when you get her back she's just slightly "off". She's not quite the girl she once was. She's putting in slightly less effort.

What proceeds this are more breakups and reconciliations. Each time she comes back she's deader and deader. When the final breakup happens she'd already moved on months ago.
got it. what you tell about is that she did not return, only slowed down due to the efforts. I can only imagine how crappy that was. it's clear you're not gonna let that happen again.
 

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They look like very average thots to me.

Also, doxxing women that you've supposedly slept with is weird, validation-seeking behavior. It's also pretty disrespectful.
I don't know what doxxing means. I've never slept with any of those girls. It was just an ad I happened to have on my phone when I was considering a trip to Paraguay recently. I could have spent more time finding hotter girls. And these pictures are publicly available.

Now assume you could find 2 of those girls with good faces and you find them attractive...

You wouldn't pay $80 for a threesome? If not, is it because you don't have $80? Or do you have some religious principles? You don't see how that's just fun, and not "Beta bux" or whatever you like to call it.
 

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In an LTR you have to cover all these bases. No self respecting woman is going to put up with covering half or more of date costs long term, while sleeping in your bed, and bowing to your opinion on every little thing. In meeting new women, some things seem like beta behavior, but if you do them because you want to, it now is Alpha.

Example, you bring her on a weekend trip. You drive , you buy the fuel, the hotel and the meals. You bang her like a screen door in a windstorm and she brings you coffee and a croissant from the coffee shop downstairs. It's not going to be an equal 50/50 expenditure.

But you don't give her your gold card and send her downtown shopping while you watch TV.

See my point?

ATHOL KAY covers this really well for couples. He calls little, infrequent expenditures, "Skittling". His wife likes Skittles candy. Every now and then irregularly he will buy her a bag of Skittles without her asking and surprise her with it. Like on a roadtrip getting gas. Here hon.... toss it to her. Couple weeks later, middle of the week, slip a bag in her jacket pocket. etc.
 

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Are any of them attractive? Obviously you can't see their face...

To me, there's a couple that are good enough to pay a little to have a good (great) time.

By far not the most attractive I've been with. Oh, and if I wanted, I could be with 2 or 3 at once. I can't even remember how many threesomes I've had.

Your posts obviously don't come from experience in life. Just regurgitating the same nonsense.
I would not brag for banging such women , even if I would get them for free

they are average at best
 

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Dude, we could all go to South America and have sex with cheap favela sluts. That's fine if that's your thing. Becoming a sexpat is what many guys have decided to do, but that isn't seduction (which is what this forum is about).
I would say that people should make a distinction between being a sexpat and being a seducer

it is nothing wrong in being a sexpat , and I did this when I moved to Ukraine for 1 year with my job , involuntary though

when you are a sexpat , you play at the easy Difficulty , but you will never really get the respect and heart of a woman like this . She will always see you as a provider . Basically her ticket out of poverty

the key to great sex, feeling super good about yourself etc , is for her to submit her heart , mind and body to you . This can be achieved only through seduction
 

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I would say that people should make a distinction between being a sexpat and being a seducer

it is nothing wrong in being a sexpat , and I did this when I moved to Ukraine for 1 year with my job , involuntary though

when you are a sexpat , you play at the easy Difficulty , but you will never really get the respect and heart of a woman like this . She will always see you as a provider . Basically her ticket out of poverty

the key to great sex, feeling super good about yourself etc , is for her to submit her heart , mind and body to you . This can be achieved only through seduction
or... it happens organically. she is seduced because of who/what you are and how her mind and feelings are about the same. the seduction occurs without any intent from the man.
 

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or... it happens organically. she is seduced because of who/what you are and how her mind and feelings are about the same. the seduction occurs without any intent from the man.
it helps a lot if the man is attractive physically to her.
 
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