Bill Gates is getting divorced lmao

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

This is beta as hell. Mans role is to protect and provide. That’s the responsibility we assume if we take on a wife and children. If you want to keep 100% of your wealth just don’t get married.

but is it fair though

 

[TheProspect]

I agree with the protect part, but why provide? I mean, it's not like women have to go out and kill mastadons. Provisioning is not a male centered activity anymore. Since most women are not traditional anymore why should men be?

Ideally you’d attract & maintain the interest of a traditional woman, and then marry her if for nothing else but providing the statistically best environment to raise kids in, then you’d want to at least have the means to provide for both her and your children indefinitely if tough times necessitate it.

If she’s a good lover, partner, and the mother of your kids, why wouldn’t you provide for her? Why would a woman, assuming she’s of quality, settle for a man who operates out of fear and whose afraid of providing for his family because he’s scared to lose some money?

That being said, there’s always an inherent risk in marriage. I understand the apprehension about it, especially given that the women worthy of marriage are few and far between... and even then the system is rigged in the woman’s favour in most cases.

This is why due diligence before such a commitment is essential. Most failed marriages I’ve observed the man admits to compromising by ignoring or minimizing red flags in the woman.

Will proper screening avoid a train wreck of a divorce? Obviously not, but nothing worth having is easily attained and completely risk free at that. Not like you take your money with you when you die anyway.

 

[RickTheToad]

I think a lot of modern men are too embittered to look at marriage for what it is; a legal union that is a necessary evil for raising children and having someone to give you meds when you’re too old and feeble to wipe your own ass.

If you don’t want kids, don’t get married.

Also, this idea that your wife is stealing assets from you is asinine. You know going in that if you marry a woman the household becomes shared and that includes money. If you want 100% of your own money for the rest of your life, don’t get married.

We know the terms going in. Guys need to stop bvtching about it. Some of y’all sound just as bad as women.

What makes you think one, she'll do it. Two, she'll stick around long enough for that lovely option of wiping your ass? Statistically speaking, it's a crap shot.

 

[RickTheToad]

Ideally you’d attract & maintain the interest of a traditional woman, and then marry her if for nothing else but providing the statistically best environment to raise kids in, then you’d want to at least have the means to provide for both her and your children indefinitely if tough times necessitate it.

If she’s a good lover, partner, and the mother of your kids, why wouldn’t you provide for her? Why would a woman, assuming she’s of quality, settle for a man who operates out of fear and whose afraid of providing for his family because he’s scared to lose some money?

That being said, there’s always an inherent risk in marriage. I understand the apprehension about it, especially given that the women worthy of marriage are few and far between... and even then the system is rigged in the woman’s favour in most cases.

This is why due diligence before such a commitment is essential. Most failed marriages I’ve observed the man admits to compromising by ignoring or minimizing red flags in the woman.

Will proper screening avoid a train wreck of a divorce? Obviously not, but nothing worth having is easily attained and completely risk free at that. Not like you take your money with you when you die anyway.

We should make a sticky on required reading for dudes.

 

[SargeMaximus]

My grandfather lived to be 85. Died in his sleep at home next to his wife. He was active and mobile till the day he died despite having a heart only working at 20% according to doctors. He didn’t work out or eat healthy.

point is: with modern medicine and a healthy lifestyle, you can be mobile and capable at an older age. Marriage isn't gonna save you from bad health.

people need to stop living in fear but act proactively.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

My grandfather lived to be 85. Died in his sleep at home next to his wife. He was active and mobile till the day he died despite having a heart only working at 20% according to doctors. He didn’t work out or eat healthy.

point is: with modern medicine and a healthy lifestyle, you can be mobile and capable at an older age. Marriage isn't gonna save you from bad health.

people need to stop living in fear but act proactively.

even if you aren’t married, your kids can be there to help. My grandad just died at a similar age and he basically needed help for like 3-4 years to his death. He basically lost all function 3-4 months before he died. It’s not like you will go party in Thailand one night and the next morning die in your sleep.

 

[bat soup]

If I was a family court judge I would award her 20$ for each time they had sex during the marriage based on the "fair value" principle.

 

[metalwater]

I was feeling empathy and pity for Gates, Bill. Empathy is feminine, appears I still have more to learn/grow.

 

[MatureDJ]

And with Windows 8 she was done.

Yes, that might have been the all-time POS computer product. Oh, I had forgotten about Vista.

 

[Visionist]

I was feeling empathy and pity for Gates, Bill. Empathy is feminine, appears I still have more to learn/grow.

Empathy is masculine. Women are indifferent to men they aren't emotionally invested in.

 

[manfrombelow]

I was feeling empathy and pity for Gates, Bill. Empathy is feminine, appears I still have more to learn/grow.

Being emphathetic has nothing to do with being feminine or not. In fact, most females are the most cold blooded creatures I've ever seen.

If you see a fellow man in distress and develop empathy for him, that's normal.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Being emphathetic has nothing to do with being feminine or not. In fact, most females are the most cold blooded creatures I've ever seen.

They are ruthless. She can walk over an exes bleeding corpse and get mad that it got in her way.

 

[SW15]

I think a lot of modern men are too embittered to look at marriage for what it is; a legal union that is a necessary evil for raising children and having someone to give you meds when you’re too old and feeble to wipe your own ass.

Marriage is no guarantee that you won't end up in an assisted living facility. Divorce and a wife dying before you often lead to this. More men should plan on assisted living.

If you don’t want kids, don’t get married.

I've been indifferent about having kids and haven't gotten married. Notice that Bill and Melinda officially split not longer after the youngest of their children turned 18. However, it is likely the marriage was dead in reality long before this.

 

[EyeBRollin]

My grandfather lived to be 85. Died in his sleep at home next to his wife. He was active and mobile till the day he died despite having a heart only working at 20% according to doctors. He didn’t work out or eat healthy.

point is: with modern medicine and a healthy lifestyle, you can be mobile and capable at an older age. Marriage isn't gonna save you from bad health.

This is a strawman argument. Married men live longer and earn more money over their lifetime. Your grandfather despite poor health did manage to exceed life expectancy.

even if you aren’t married, your kids can be there to help.

Children have their own lives. They aren’t expected to take care of their parents. Your wife should be looking out for you and vice versa. Life happens, one of you can be widowed but you deal with that when it happens.

Marriage is no guarantee that you won't end up in an assisted living facility.

There are no guarantees. However, the statistics are you have a better chance at making it to the end of life in better shape with a spouse than without.

 

[SargeMaximus]

This is a strawman argument. Married men live longer and earn more money over their lifetime. Your grandfather despite poor health did manage to exceed life expectancy.



Children have their own lives. They aren’t expected to take care of their parents. Your wife should be looking out for you and vice versa. Life happens, one of you can be widowed but you deal with that when it happens.



There are no guarantees. However, the statistics are you have a better chance at making it to the end of life in better shape with a spouse than without.

I don’t know what a straw man argument is. I’m just stating some facts.

edit: after looking it up I don’t think it is strawman argument. We are talking about marriage and someone mentioned needing to be married so someone could help you with failing health. My grandpa was married but had no failing health that required assistance in the manner mentioned here.

 

[RickTheToad]

I don’t know what a straw man argument is. I’m just stating some facts.

edit: after looking it up I don’t think it is strawman argument. We are talking about marriage and someone mentioned needing to be married so someone could help you with failing health. My grandpa was married but had no failing health that required assistance in the manner mentioned here.

Logic and relationships do not compute to the female brain or EyeBRollin. They both think similarly in that regard.

 

[SargeMaximus]

Logic and relationships do not compute to the female brain or EyeBRollin. They both think similarly in that regard.

There does seem to be a lot of Disney believers on this forum

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Now I see what EyeBRollin is saying I think. Marriages have always been essentially a business contract to benefit parties involved. Females, Hollywood, and big businesses have ruined marriage by turning it in to some romantic Disney relationship where it’s suppose to be always fuzzy and have a spark.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Logic and relationships do not compute to the female brain or EyeBRollin. They both think similarly in that regard.

Logic says children have the best outcomes being raised in a two-parent household.

Now I see what EyeBRollin is saying I think. Marriages have always been essentially a business contract to benefit parties involved. Females, Hollywood, and big businesses have ruined marriage by turning it in to some romantic Disney relationship where it’s suppose to be always fuzzy and have a spark.

Correct.

 

[B80]

This is a strawman argument. Married men live longer and earn more money over their lifetime. Your grandfather despite poor health did manage to exceed life expectancy.

I think thats in years gone by. men who were single more likely to drink more, smoke more, bad diet etc if not married. although no doubt having a 'soulmate' would help to some degree, but I think the main factors are what I formerly mentioned and if you address them and not isolate yourself from society, the difference to being married would be minimal.