The Future of dating and why men are even more screwed than now

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only one problem with this all gloom and doom, like you said men tend to live frugal, not spending on useless things, with means a lot of money will not circulate and that is bad for the economy, understand don't matter how much they push, eventually the pressure will break and then the fight will break out, so or you learn to take advantage on what you are given or you lie down and wait for salvation, btw salvation will never happen. wrose case scenario, buy a sex robot and be done with it lol
Women will continue to make more money and stimulate the economy. Hence, why politics and corporate agendas are catering towards them right now. Again, these frugal sexually frustrated dudes that struggled in their twenties will have all this money saved up in their 30s and they will bail these women out of student loans, credit card debt, bad mortgages, purchase them stuff, and etc. The point is that women will never face any consequences for their actions because the cleanup men will bail them out.
 

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Then again it's his fault because he KNEW this was going to be an issue long before he married her and still went through with it. Let's not pretend guys don't see these issues way before they present themselves. They choose to ignore them because the pvssy is too good or she is hot.
No. Misinterpreted the comment completely. A lot of women think once they get the ring, they can hang it up. They get a license to act however they want because the guy is now trapped. Often their behavior is different from pre-marriage.
 

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What are you supposed to do if a girl is able to trick you in to marrying her and she pulls the bait and switch on you? It's not like these men are just choosing to marry toxic women upfront lol.
Then you leave the woman if she pulls a bait and switch on you. Trust me she won't be able to keep the game/masquerade long. You'll know long before you have to pay alimony if she is worth staying married too. Lots of men put up with it because they just don't know what is out there. Just being very honest and blunt to what you want and they will submit or leave.

Also some of the worst breakups I had something better always came along and if not better different and new.

Women will continue to make more money and stimulate the economy. Hence, why politics and corporate agendas are catering towards them right now. Again, these frugal sexually frustrated dudes that struggled in their twenties will have all this money saved up in their 30s and they will bail these women out of student loans, credit card debt, bad mortgages, purchase them stuff, and etc. The point is that women will never face any consequences for their actions because the cleanup men will bail them out.
Oh they do, plenty of single moms on my facebook feed asking "where are all the good men" Even when they do start dating it never lasts she either needs to submit or the guy wants to start an even larger family. In the end most girls post 30 are losing, yea some might be saved but the majority won't have a chance until their children have grown up and left house assuming they raised them right which usually doesn't happen, even then they are up against younger girls.
 

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No. Misinterpreted the comment completely. A lot of women think once they get the ring, they can hang it up. They get a license to act however they want because the guy is now trapped. Often their behavior is different from pre-marriage.
I don't buy it. Still a screening issue. That type of behavior presented itself in different ways prior and it was ignored.
 

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What are you supposed to do if a girl is able to trick you in to marrying her and she pulls the bait and switch on you? It's not like these men are just choosing to marry toxic women upfront lol.
The inability to screen properly is too many guys downfall when getting married. Unless a guy is so dense or dumb that he can't put two and two together there are myriad examples of behavior that is pretty much the same in different ways that is chosen to be ignored prior.

Tigers don't change their stripes and nobody is able to hide things for that length of time unless the person they are hiding them from keeps their head buried in the sand instead of looking around.
 

It doesn't matter how good-looking you are, how romantic you are, how funny you are... or anything else. If she doesn't have something INVESTED in you and the relationship, preferably quite a LOT invested, she'll dump you, without even the slightest hesitation, as soon as someone a little more "interesting" comes along.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Some of you guys need to stop focusing on how unfair life is and try to have a better attitude. SoSuave is getting flooded with negativity and isn’t helpful to anyone here. Things are as they are. Like anything whether it’s a job landscape, etc, either adapt or get left behind. The choice is yours.
That's right, focus on being the clean-up man!
 

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The inability to screen properly is too many guys downfall when getting married. Unless a guy is so dense or dumb that he can't put two and two together there are myriad examples of behavior that is pretty much the same in different ways that is chosen to be ignored prior.

Tigers don't change their stripes and nobody is able to hide things for that length of time unless the person they are hiding them from keeps their head buried in the sand instead of looking around.
Exactly.
I'd even say guys that gain knowledge here are in a way better position for marriage or LTR than clueless blue pilled guys out there with out this type of info that SS provides.

We often talk about girls Sh1t testing guys but we gotta all be Sh1t testing girls hard as part of the screening process. Guys are often too starry eyed just because a girl is willing to talk or sleep with them. It goes waaaaaay beyond that for anything successful.
 

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At the end of the day, the only hope I see is one of these desperate sexually frustrated gen z men going rogue and making some super AI sex robot to stop this horrible dating reality. You can continue to lie to yourself by hoping that game, looks, money, and status will save you from this horrible reality, but it won't. The only option men have right now is to subscribe to the free agent lifestyle and to have sex as minimum as possible. I will be leaving this site because I'm marking anything promoting chasing women as toxic because it's not beneficial to my life and it seems like it won't ever be. I'm over 6ft, make 6 figures, and have a 6 pack and I shouldn't be having to make concessions for some washed up 49er so I can maybe have 20 minutes of sex. If you want to waste your time on monsters then go ahead, but writing is on the wall lol. There are ways to have sex with women and avoid these games, but you do run the risk of stds, being in a me too investigation, catching feelings, having kids, and etc.
Just stop dating then you don't have to worry about it.
Seems like he has his mind made up and should go to the MGTOW forums.
Yup, agree with these responses. If you're not enjoying the dating process, focus on doing something more productive like earning 7 figures, or hitting the gym and building up your body more, or pursuing a favourite hobby, or ticking off some bucket list items, etc.
 

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If it happens once in a blue moon then dont they kinda have the right to be that way?
No. It's called taking it in stride and managing expecations so those guys don't come on these forums all butt hurt after the fact because the girl dumped them after seeing them a couple times.

Illusions exists on both sides of the pond for both boys and girls if they choose to only see what's in front of them.
 

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If it happens once in a blue moon then dont they kinda have the right to be that way?
The thing we don’t talk about is that strength of the IOI is proportional to the guy’s looks. A guy with average/so so looks may only receive very subtle IOIs that are more easily missed. Or they may be so infrequent that he might not get enough experience to pick up on the pattern.
 

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No. It's called taking it in stride and managing expecations so those guys don't come on these forums all butt hurt after the fact because the girl dumped them after seeing them a couple times.
So if they got divorced rather than a couple of times then they have a right to be butt hurt?
 
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Exactly.
I'd even say guys that gain knowledge here are in a way better position for marriage or LTR than clueless blue pilled guys out there with out this type of info that SS provides.

We often talk about girls Sh1t testing guys but we gotta all be Sh1t testing girls hard as part of the screening process. Guys are often too starry eyed just because a girl is willing to talk or sleep with them. It goes waaaaaay beyond that for anything successful.
But it is impossible to screen these late millennial/early Gen Z girls because they have mastered the art of becoming chameleons. The days of spotting a toxic girl behind tattoos, piercings, and woodstock lifestyle are gone. The new toxic girl looks like your girl next door, has a stable job, bright smile, and silly/bubbly personality upfront. Some are good at hiding their toxicity for a long time and some can't hide it after the first sex session. Go on Tik Tok, you see normal looking girls boasting not just displaying toxic behavior and you are like wtf.
 

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That's right, focus on being the clean-up man!
And like clock-work you surface in this thread. Shocking! What does this have to do with being a "clean-up man"? I don't understand your mindset at all. What does being overly negative about women do to help you in your life and what purpose does it serve to come on this forum be that way?
 

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Eastern European women are amazing. Not materialistic, don't care how much money you make, etc.

@Lookatu told me in some other thread that Japanese women are an untapped market. Highly preferable to American women.

A friend's wife is from Vietnam originally. He always tells me that if I ever get married, it's the way to go.

Eastern Euro women are amazing? Bruh, with all due respect, how much experience do you have with Slavic women?

I can tell you with absolute certainty that Slavic women are much more lethal than low IQ western women because Slavic women are more cunning and ruthless, and on top of that, they are amazing actors. They can easily trick you into believing whatever fantasy they're spinning.

That adorable Slavic girl that looks like she's just a house kitten is actually a lion that will maul you when you least suspect it.

And lol at Asian women, once again, we see another guy having to resort to JBW Theory in Asia...
 

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And like clock-work you surface in this thread. Shocking! What does this have to do with being a "clean-up man"? I don't understand your mindset at all. What does being overly negative about women do to help you in your life and what purpose does it serve to come on this forum be that way?
You said adapt to changing circumstances. That is what the OP said too. Reread his first post.
 

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You said adapt to changing circumstances. That is what the OP said too. Reread his first post.
Yes - I read it. More doom and gloom. His post isn't really about adapting at all but more lamenting something he is worried is going to happen. My post and his aren't the same. Not even close.
 

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But it is impossible to screen these late millennial/early Gen Z girls because they have mastered the art of becoming chameleons. The days of spotting a toxic girl behind tattoos, piercings, and woodstock lifestyle are gone. The new toxic girl looks like your girl next door, has a stable job, bright smile, and silly/bubbly personality upfront. Some are good at hiding their toxicity for a long time and some can't hide it after the first sex session. Go on Tik Tok, you see normal looking girls boasting not just displaying toxic behavior and you are like wtf.
No, you just have to be better. That's all. Too many have a victim/give up mentality these days. Nothing comes easy. Entitlement isn't a girl issue, it's a generational issue.

It sounds like you've already given up based on the words you're using like "impossible".

When is the last time you dated a girl or had a gf? Are you speaking from experience or just reading about things here and there and automatically tapping out?
 

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First there will be no remedies to helping men going forward because it does not economically or politically benefit the higher ups. Women spend more money and are more becoming more increasingly powerful in politics. Until men take stand in education, economics, and politics, I don't see any legislator or business going out of their way help men. You can **** and moan all you want about Gillette and **** but facts are facts. Companies and legislators ARE always going to do what benefits them, so there's your answer to solving that. Men are losing badly on this platform and just going underground on YouTube to **** ain't going to work. Eventually YouTube will start banning red pill, mgtow, Joe Rogan, and etc later down the road.

The rise of the cleanup man! With marriage & dating becoming obsolete, you will have a lot more Auntie Anne's and single moms out there in the dating market. In addition, dating apps are making it harder for younger men to find women because a 20 year old woman would rather hook up with a 28-30 year old guy with his own apartment, vehicle, and money than some ashy elbowed 20 year old boy in his mom's basement or dorm room. As a result, you will have a lot more sexually frustrated young men enter their 30s with a lot of saved up money and desperation. These men will become the crusaders for Auntie Anne's and single moms and save them from their horrible mistakes.

Women will be much more fatter in the future " The average American woman 20 years old and up weighs 170.6 pounds and stands at 63.7 inches (almost 5 feet, 4 inches) tall"! This is ridiculous because I'm 6ft 1 and 175 pounds lol. I don't even know if this data is pre-covid either lol. Again with nothing to keep women in check, what's going to keep their weight in check....NOTHING!

At the end of the day, the only hope I see is one of these desperate sexually frustrated gen z men going rogue and making some super AI sex robot to stop this horrible dating reality. You can continue to lie to yourself by hoping that game, looks, money, and status will save you from this horrible reality, but it won't. The only option men have right now is to subscribe to the free agent lifestyle and to have sex as minimum as possible. I will be leaving this site because I'm marking anything promoting chasing women as toxic because it's not beneficial to my life and it seems like it won't ever be. I'm over 6ft, make 6 figures, and have a 6 pack and I shouldn't be having to make concessions for some washed up 49er so I can maybe have 20 minutes of sex. If you want to waste your time on monsters then go ahead, but writing is on the wall lol. There are ways to have sex with women and avoid these games, but you do run the risk of stds, being in a me too investigation, catching feelings, having kids, and etc.
If you think there’s a problem with all the women in the world turning into *******s, there is a simple solution: don’t date them.
I don’t mean don’t date, period, I mean don’t date the *******s. If everybody sees that the women who aren’t treating men like scum are getting boyfriends, they will stop treating men like scum. Women may be taking over some of the industry, but women will always need us in some sort of power if the human race is going to survive.
So just date the “good” girls. If there aren’t any, don’t settle for something less. And if a woman you are dating turns into an *******, dump her. Dumping affects women more than it affects men.
Also, just don’t date feminists. Just don’t.
 

Do not be too easy. If you are too easy to get, she will not want you. If you are too easy to keep, she will lose interest in you. If you are too easy to control, she will not respect you.

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