Richard Cooper charging outageous price for his private "community"

[Who Dares Win]

Im more into this style actually, be funny and spread truth.

 

[deadmasterx]

Do like I did, go buy yourself some books from Marcus Aurelius and Seneca. Read it, do it again and again until you memorize it all. Be happy. Less than $10 spent, knowledge for life, no membership.

 

[RickTheToad]

Some of you may be familiar with Rich Cooper as he has pretty big "manosphere" following on Youtube and Twitter. Well, today I saw he posted a tweet about joining his private community. I looked at it and thought, "Okay, cool. I'll go on there and see what people are saying." Well, turns out he charges $598 a year.

$598!!!!!!!!!!!!

He claims to have 500+ members. That's $299,000 a year he is getting for what?
"Premium Video Library"
"Monthly Q&A"
"Private Forum" Just a private Facebook group. Is it even allowed in Facebook Terms to charge to join a group on there?
"VIP Access" (whatever that means) to live broadcasts
"VIP Access" to "Online Learning Events"
Discounted Monthly "Coaching"

So, let's do a comparison here

Sosuave.net
Membership free
Hundreds of experienced members and mods actively answers questions
Public forum with moderation cutting out any bs


Rollo Tomassi charges $5 a month ($60 a year for his Patreon)

Coach Redpill charges $5 a month ($60 a year for his Patreon)


I had a bad vibe from this Rich Cooper guy for a while now. This only confirms it for me. Scamming men who are trying to improve themselves. I think its despicable.

My point? I want nembers gere to be very wary of these Redpill "content creators"

What would his response be. "Oh, my time is that valuable. If you don't want to invest in yourself...blah blah blah." That's dirty salesman talk. He's just regurgitating info that is free elsewhere.

Rich "The pooper scooper" Copper started off as an asset to everyone. His videos are amusing, but he's obviously milking it for everything and anything he can get. His personality has also changed too. He used to be humble and helpful, now he's just a crass opinionated dude. He does some free call in shows, and they're interesting to say the least. He does have some good points, but now, it's just a money grab. Also, the "elites" in his community are laughable at best. Mom's basement types of guys if you know what I mean.

 

[RickTheToad]

Im more into this style actually, be funny and spread truth.

He's a money grabber too. I give rich a props for at least using his real name. Him Aaron Clarey George Bruno and Greg Adams I think are the only one's who use their real names.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

$598!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well to be fair; 600 USD (for a year), isn't that much money if you are a business owner and are looking for professional business advise. There are business advisers that charge way more than that just for an hour of consultation, (We're talking thousands of dollars per hour). So this is actually quite cheap.

What most people don't know is that Richard Cooper actually have built a very successful credit card debt consolidation business https://www.totaldebtfreedom.ca which he is the owner and still CEO of as far as I know. So this guy knows this sh'it.
His LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/totaldebtfreedom/?originalSubdomain=ca

If I needed business advice for my own business at some point I would mind to pay for advice from a guy that has a real track record and expertise as an business owner/entrepreneur and have built successful businesses from zero.

So actually I don't think in my opinion that it is a big thing to make a fuzz about. The whole YouTube thing is just something he runs on the sideline as a hobby as far as I understand it.

Anyway I'm not recommending Rich; so do your own due diligence before you hire someone.

 

[Who Dares Win]

He's a money grabber too. I give rich a props for at least using his real name. Him Aaron Clarey George Bruno and Greg Adams I think are the only one's who use their real names.

I dont know how they get money out of people, I would never pay a "guru" to teach me stuff...also they are more about entertainment than proper coaching (for what I understand, I may be wrong).

A guy that needs to pay a coach in my opinion has many more serious problems than not getting laid.

 

[redskinsfan92]

#1 Rich Cooper/Aaron Clarey would rather do videos on how to make yourself wealthy, but the "how do I get the girls" videos are where all the views and money are at.

#2 People value things that they pay for. There is no value in free. If you spend money, you're way more likely to put in the effort to get something out of your investment rather than sitting on ass watching an unlimited stream of videos and hoping some of it will stick.

Also, youtube is run by a bunch of pvssies and content creators are forced to go behind a pay wall in order to say what it is they really want to say.

A $5 paywall

He has the right to charge whatever the price he wants as long as he feels it's justified.

And you, OP, have the right to buy his service for that price, or not. It's not like he's forcing you to buy it.

So what's the overall point of this post? Whining is not an alpha trait, you know.

Just legitimate criticism. I don't want members here falling for that crap. That is my point. That is my right.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

A guy that needs to pay a coach in my opinion has many more serious problems than not getting laid.

I think you are seeing the wrong way. There are many valid cases/times where you need to bring in expertise to solve an issue in your business for example. Another example is you don't go the guy that has earned one million dollar to learn to make ten million dollar. You go of course and seek advise from the ten million dollar guy to learn how to take it into the next level. Having business coaches/mentors is pretty common practice by the leading CEO's around the world. Only a fool would try to run everything by himself.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Well to be fair; 600 USD (for a year), isn't that much money if you are a business owner and are looking for professional business advise. There are business advisers that charge way more than that just for an hour of consultation, (We're talking thousands of dollars per hour). So this is actually quite cheap.

What most people don't know is that Richard Cooper actually have built a very successful credit card debt consolidation business https://www.totaldebtfreedom.ca which he is the owner and still CEO of as far as I know. So this guy knows this sh'it.
His LinkedIn Profile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/totaldebtfreedom/?originalSubdomain=ca

If I needed business advice for my own business at some point I would mind to pay for advice from a guy that has a real track record and expertise as an business owner/entrepreneur and have built successful businesses from zero.

So actually I don't think in my opinion that it is a big thing to make a fuzz about. The whole YouTube thing is just something he runs on the sideline as a hobby as far as I understand it.

Anyway I'm not recommending Rich; so do your own due diligence before you hire someone.

That $598 a year doesn't seem to be for his business advice.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

That $598 a year doesn't seem to be for his business advice.

https://www.entrepreneursincars.com/community/

As I read it he is running a business community on his website. It clearly states "business" and "entrepreneur".

 

[redskinsfan92]

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https://www.entrepreneursincars.com/community/

As I read it he is running a business community on his website. It clearly states "business" and "entrepreneur".

Business says "$1997"

FYI, that page was just updated today. Yesterday it had $598 and no mention of business

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Business says "$1997"

That's just different level of price plans to gain access to his services there from what I can see.

 

[redskinsfan92]

That just different level of price plans from what I can see to gain access to his services there from what I can see.

I see now. He didn't have that on the page at all yesterday when I posted this.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Maybe they where building/updating the website when you visited it? Who knows..

 

[RickTheToad]

I dont know how they get money out of people, I would never pay a "guru" to teach me stuff...also they are more about entertainment than proper coaching (for what I understand, I may be wrong).

A guy that needs to pay a coach in my opinion has many more serious problems than not getting laid.

Some people are just lost.

 

[AureliusMaximus]

Some people are just lost.

Some are, but if you don't do your due diligence correctly and thoroughly it is your own fault. There is loads of legit business people out there which are worth the price of their expertise.

 

[RickTheToad]

Some are, but if you don't do your due diligence correctly and thoroughly it is your own fault. There is loads of legit business people out there which are worth the price of their expertise.

True, just not generally on Youtube. Youtube is for fun and entertainment. If these "gurus" were so successful, why are they taking time out of their busy day to offer videos, emails and coaching calls? It's all BS dude. Is the Pooper Scooper Rich Cooper worth 33.00 a minute to talk to? Is AMS, who I do respect, worth 250.00 per 15 minutes? All good for them playing the game, but the info both these dudes offer is available free online. I understand and support that people want to get paid for their time. No doubt, but some of these rates are just crazy.. The kicker is... People pay it. Are they better off after it? Prob. not. Why? Until someone hits rock bottom they will not change. Pain and hunger makes people change; not talking heads.

 

[redskinsfan92]

God only knows who is legit over the internet. If I met one of them in person and they were it might be different then.

 

[zekko]

I've watched some of his videos before. He can spout manosphere dogma as well as anyone else. I wouldn't pay a dime for that kind of content though, there's too much free stuff available. I guess if you compare it to those $3000 RSD summits or whatever Coach Corey Wayne charges, it's probably not so crazy. But I wouldn't pay it.

 

[Atom Smasher]

Guys usually pay because the acquisition of free advice on YouTube feels random and willy-nilly.

They are paying for a perceived structure, a system. Some guys make better headway with that.

I do believe these guys are massively overpriced. I guess they’re trying to strike while the iron’s hot and skimming the high rollers early while they can.