I don't Understand Women

[Georgepithyou]

Why do they go out of their way to make male friends, and then act surprised when he doesn't turn out to be Asexual since his now asking her out.

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Where does this mentality come from, and why do women even want male friends for in the first place?

 

[Mike32ct]

Great questions. I’ll try...

1. When some women say, “I get along better with guys,” they aren’t lying. On a friendship level, guys can be lower drama/maintenance than her female friends. So I actually can’t blame women for wanting at least one guy friend.

2. With their higher standards for attraction, most women aren’t thinking about F-ing most of their guy friends. Maybe via projection they (wrongly) assume most men aren’t thinking about F-ing their female friends either?

3. Women have this bizarre sort of view (wishful thinking) that unattractive men are asexual. If you are in true textbook friendzone (ie you have a good personality but sub-par looks), she can’t imagine you having sex with anyone. Your dik is only for peeing. She can’t wrap her head around you wanting or having sex with a chick. (The alternative thought would make her nauseous.)

 

[Velasco]

I think she knows going in that the guy trying to be her friend will try to fck her sometime in the future. But she is willing to take that risk, cuz he is a fun guy to hang out with. Shes confident that she'll be able to stop his advances when he does try. If he's awkward about the rejection then she'll get rid of him. If he's cool with it, then they'll move on as if nothing happen and life goes on.

 

[redskinsfan92]

I agree with all replies here.

I once held onto hatred and anger toward a woman that I put myself into a friendzone with. I have let that go and corrected my mindset.

 

[MoMoses]

Why do they go out of their way to make male friends, and then act surprised when he doesn't turn out to be Asexual since his now asking her out.

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Where does this mentality come from, and why do women even want male friends for in the first place?

Again, it's wired into their DNA. It's something from way back when we hunted wooly rhinos and spend the evening drawing figures in caves. Both women and men need a feeling of being safe in a tribe. Men express this by having strong friendships with other males. In the old days this was necessary. You needed to rely on your peers when hunting big game or going to war with another tribe. You still see the same sense of comradship in football teams or army squads. A human is a flock animal.

Women also needed protection, so they relied on strong men aswell. It was of paramount importance that she was included into the tribe aswell. The more men like her and help her, the more protected she is.

She's not doing this in a conscious way btw. It's wired into the human behavior and 10000 years since the ice ages isn't a long time biological speaking.

 

[bat soup]

Why do they go out of their way to make male friends, and then act surprised when he doesn't turn out to be Asexual since his now asking her out.

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Where does this mentality come from, and why do women even want male friends for in the first place?

Only fat, unattractive women can have male friends.

 

[cola]

This is untrue. I have female platonic friends.

I wish we could evolve out of this “woman bad”,“men good” culture on this forum. Like, in edition to having a vagina some women are legit cool as sh*t.
My female friends have gotten me easy no resistance p*ssy on so many occasions by introducing me to someone and putting in a few good words.
Come on with nonsense guys. Grow up.

This is starting to be like a social autism forum or something. You can totally be cool with a female and not have s*x with her. It’s nothing wrong with that.
Not everyone is going to find you attractive or vice versa but that doesn’t mean you have to write off their existence.

I legit have a female best friend .. we go out, hang at the bar sometimes she pays sometimes I pay and we just talk and have great conversations.

 

[bat soup]

I legit have a female best friend .. we go out, hang at the bar sometimes she pays sometimes I pay and we just talk and have great conversations.

Does she have a nice rack?

 

[cola]

Does she have a nice rack?

Small chested, really nice booty with flat stomach and curvy hips though. You’d look twice.

 

[bat soup]

Small chested, really nice booty with flat stomach and curvy hips though. You’d look twice.

Sounds good to me.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Why do they go out of their way to make male friends, and then act surprised when he doesn't turn out to be Asexual since his now asking her out.

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Where does this mentality come from, and why do women even want male friends for in the first place?

Because women want guys to fill different roles in their lives. One guy is the handy guy who fixes stuff around the house for her, another guy might be the car guy, another might be the fun guy who she does stuff with and is a shoulder to cry on, another might be an expert in her field of work she asks for advice, etc etc etc...

In some way, whenever a guy is friends with a woman it is because she is deriving some benefit from that.

 

[bat soup]

Because women want guys to fill different roles in their lives. One guy is the handy guy who fixes stuff around the house for her, another guy might be the car guy, another might be the fun guy who she does stuff with and is a shoulder to cry on, another might be an expert in her field of work she asks for advice, etc etc etc...

In some way, whenever a guy is friends with a woman it is because she is deriving some benefit from that.

So far I've been unsuccessful in my endeavours to find a handy girl to fix up my house and my car.

 

[derby1]

Small chested, really nice booty with flat stomach and curvy hips though. You’d look twice.

if she walked round in a little tight thong, right infront of you, then said "Oh PAPPI im so lonely"

what would you do?

 

[BackInTheGame78]

So far I've been unsuccessful in my endeavours to find a handy girl to fix up my house and my car.

Unless you are targeting butch lesbians you probably won't.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Your assumption is that they don’t know what they are doing. There is no surprise. Hahaha

A woman’s worth and value, in her mind, comes from the ability to attract men. You are still thinking women are like men.

Yes...the problem is most guys cannot think like women that is why there are sites like to teach us what they are thinking and why they do the things they do.

We use logic. They use emotion.

 

[Glassguy]

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Yes. Because as men want sex, women want attention. The more male "friends" they have, the more likes they get on their social media pics, the more compliments, etc.

This is why you DO NOT enter into a platonic relationship with a woman if:

*She declined your advances for dates/sex
*You were in a previous relationship with her
*You have feelings for her

Instead, use women for your benefit (Sex) and then toss them. They will continue to chase you and you are in charge of the dynamics of the relationship.

 

[Barrister]

Women know exactly what they are doing to a degree. I will slightly disagree with the people in this thread that seem to be suggesting they are completely ignorant of that.

Women want male attention/validation. Hot women especially. This is why the higher on the "HB" scale they are the more male orbiters they tend to have. These women absolutely know that their male orbiters are attracted to them - at least initially. Where they misunderstand how men operate is assuming that the man loses sexual feelings for her once they become "friends." They then act shocked when the male orbiter - after months of acting beta and finally works up the courage - asks her to go do something 1 on 1 that has a romantic element to it. I think women think that once they put the man in the friendzone there is some understanding they are just buddies. Men who understand women aren't even around at that point - because we understand a true platonic relationship (where we don't want sex from them if they are hot) is not possible and that type of relationship is purely beneficial for only the woman (I disagree it offers any type of social proofing to the man).

The only time I think a truly platonic relationship with a woman is possible is if she is your childhood friend (basically family) or she is buddy's long term girlfriend/wife (not that this stops everyone!). Everything else is not truly platonic - despite what these women believe.

 

[Barrister]

Yes. Because as men want sex, women want attention. The more male "friends" they have, the more likes they get on their social media pics, the more compliments, etc.

This is why you DO NOT enter into a platonic relationship with a woman if:

*She declined your advances for dates/sex
*You were in a previous relationship with her
*You have feelings for her

Instead, use women for your benefit (Sex) and then toss them. They will continue to chase you and you are in charge of the dynamics of the relationship.

My previous ex was adamant we should be "friends" after we broke up. I think this is the number 1 way men get held up on their ex. It sounds OK at first until you learn she is banging someone else and she becomes more distant towards you. I think as men that is hard to deal with even if you were the one who initiated the breakup. I said no thanks to that -- she now won't even speak to me to be polite but probably better that way.

 

[Velasco]

Men who understand women aren't even around at that point - because we understand a true platonic relationship (where we don't want sex from them if they are hot) is not possible and that type of relationship is purely beneficial for only the woman (I disagree it offers any type of social proofing to the man).

only reason a guy who be friends with a hot girl is because he wants to fck her. he knows that eventually she'll come around to get feelings for him.

I also stopped wasting mental energy on the friend/lover dichotomy. Women who didn't fukk me one day have fukked me on another day. These things are fluid and moment to moment.

not that he actively tries to get with her. but is always just being the cool charismatic guy he naturally is. when she starts showing indicators of interest to him (starting conversations with him when she didn't need to, looking at him with her friends then giggling) is when he'll start moving it forward to make it happen.

and yes it does offer social proof lol. try walking into a club with hot girls you never fcked and see what happens with the other girls in the club. you may be surprised

 

[Modern Man Advice]

Why do they go out of their way to make male friends, and then act surprised when he doesn't turn out to be Asexual since his now asking her out.

Do women seriously think Men and women can have platonic relationships?

Where does this mentality come from, and why do women even want male friends for in the first place?

Funny you mention it, this literally just happened to me last night. I'm pretty sure they convince themselves they can have male friends and it won't be conditional. It is important to stand your ground and remove yourself from that situation. If a man is sexually attracted to a woman, their "friendship" will always be conditional and vastly in favor of the woman. Not the men. Remember that.

Sometimes you can be transparent and tell them why you don't believe in remaining friends if he has earned that respect from you. Or simply don't even bother, ignore and move on. Those 45 secs writing that text and speaking on the phone can be better spent somewhere else. If it's in person, you simply act with class, appreciate her honesty, and wish her the best.

If you do decide to be friends, expect to be one-sided.

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