Most People Settle (Yet Are Still Happy!)

[rjc149]

This thread is largely female oriented in its nature. Old man comfort? Lonely? Degenerating living?

this is ridiculous. 90 year old men are having children. 87 year old men are climbing Mt. Everest. What the fuk is retirement? You mean stop living? I reject this reality. Is living about women? Is living really that narrow?
A lot of you guys are seriously embedded in the feminine paradigm. It’s kinda sad to read some of those posts. Is this all you have to look forward to? What happened to a woman contributing to your life? Where do you take women in your lives?

Lol you’re gonna be a 90 year old man knocking hot young b!tches up and climbing Mount Everest? That’s what you’re looking forward to? That’s seriously going to happen for you, right?

Yes. You’ve rejected reality. Fantasy is fun though. If crackpipe hope is all you have turning your wheels forward to old age, I won’t take that away from you.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

Some guys just prefer to be imprisoned and chained than be single and lonely.

 

[zekko]

Let's say some average Joe wants to marry Gal Gadot. Well, he's not too likely to get with Gal Gadot, so I would suggest he get to settling. Life is full of compromises, it's like haggling.

 

[Lookatu]

Let's say some average Joe wants to marry Gal Gadot. Well, he's not too likely to get with Gal Gadot, so I would suggest he get to settling. Life is full of compromises, it's like haggling.

Well the Ferrari badges are still holding up on my Honduh Accord. Plus the Honduh is a lot more reliable and cheaper to maintain.

 

[rjc149]

That was quite the jump. Haha
It’s like a pollster asking if I want to sign a petition to raise taxes for some nefarious reason and when I say no,...”you aren’t in reality and you should have more responsibility for your fellow man and start thinking about the children.”

So you jumped to the other end of the spectrum and vomited it out, as if there’s nothing in between. I already have at least four offspring that I know of. How about you? Ever been married? Tell me what it was like. Share THAT story.

Make no mistake. I adore women and I have zero animosity. But if you are thinking wife and children, she will instantly read it in your persona and you will be on the provider cuck list in her bilogical programming. You should at the very least, try to play hard to get or something. Make her think that her glorious love persuaded you.

Married people wish they weren’t married when the crap hits the fan and all the single people wish they were married.
Ever notice how a woman with straight hair wants curls and a woman with curls wants straight hair?

The idea that married couples are happiest is absolute balderdash. The idea that single people are happiest is also balderdash.
Marriage doesn’t change anything. You just get to sit outside the hole and howl more is all.
How could you possibly be more unobservant? I guess you can sit in your arrogance and learn the hard way just like everyone else.

I interpreted your comment as more of the toxic red pill “men never hit the wall, relationships are for cucks” horsesh!t splattered all over this forum.

Statistically: married men live longer. They are healthier. They report higher levels of satisfaction with life and higher levels of happiness. Married men. Not divorced men.

Marriage satisfies a primal urge to have a secure emotional base that we all crave from childhood. If you read up on attachment theory by Dr. John Bowlby, children need a secure emotional anchor— their primary caregivers— in order to feel safe venturing out and exploring the world. As adults, we have the same need, except that anchor becomes our lovers, not our parents. Top CEO alpha males are almost all married. Emotional energy and time can all be focused on professional achievement, rather than hunting pvssy.

Of course many marriages crash and burn, and many marriages that don’t formally end are miserable. I’m not saying men should all get married. It doesn’t work for a lot of men. It probably won’t work for me either. It’s a huge risk. I’m just saying, there are pros. Even for men. Especially beyond the age where sexual interest is a factor in the partnership.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I have not observed this to be true. Unmarried reclusive men? I would say it could possibly be right. Long life is a product of having goals to the very end where you drop dead.
Ive watched men retire. Even when I was in my teens. Retirement is a straight line to dead.
“If you rest, you rust”

A reclusive life is also a straight line to dead. MGTOW monks aren’t long for this world. I’ve seen men disintegrate when their woman leaves for another. It takes away their goals and they don’t form new ones because of this supposed thing called marriage. Men aren’t as solipsistic as women. Women can live for the sake of living and taking care of grand children. Men do not function without goals and targets.

I’ve also watched men who spring into new life when their domineering hags, that they lived with for 50 years, kick off. They looked young again. A smile easily comes to their faces. It’s magical.
Men will literally work themselves to death at the behest of that woman.
Do I blame the woman? Not at all. She is being a woman. Extracting resources from him until he dies. Even after from his life long struggle and retirement funds. This is the way of things.

If your statistic is backed by legitimate background, I believe those unmarried men had no goals. Nothing to work towards. No aims in life. A man will always have those things if he has a woman. A reason to work and advance. Now if you said this, I would give your statistic a gold star.
The premise put forth by the creators of the information you are posting, is founded in a gynocentric paradigm. Where else would they get it?

Men that will die younger....

Men with domineering wives.
Men who are reclusive.
Men who retire and don’t make new star high goals.
Men who are gamers with no life.
Men with poor diets.
Men who have rusted from inactivity.
Men who don’t have sex well into their 80’s and even 90’s.
(Special note: from 60 on, married men have near zero sex with their lifetime woman. It’s a short walk to the grave. Once the woman is through menopause, there is almost no way she is having sex with that man. But give her a new man to fuk? Off and running.)

Your article is slanted. This is a new paradigm now. It’s unheard of that men don’t seek to marry and volunteer for servitude in exchange for rationed, and withheld sex.
I will tell you the most important thing you will ever hear. Don’t you forget this, EVER.
Your sex with that “reason to live” (wife), will absolutely dwindle to nothing while you work and work and finally be crushed. You remember these words for the rest of your life. Women don’t go without sex in one form or another. They live to obtain. It’s biological. Men live for enslavement to have goals and something to work for.

So knowing all that man can instead be a slave to giving HIMSELF the best life that he can.

 

[rjc149]

I have not observed this to be true. Unmarried reclusive men? I would say it could possibly be right. Long life is a product of having goals to the very end where you drop dead.
Ive watched men retire. Even when I was in my teens. Retirement is a straight line to dead.
“If you rest, you rust”

A reclusive life is also a straight line to dead. MGTOW monks aren’t long for this world. I’ve seen men disintegrate when their woman leaves for another. It takes away their goals and they don’t form new ones because of this supposed thing called marriage. Men aren’t as solipsistic as women. Women can live for the sake of living and taking care of grand children. Men do not function without goals and targets.

I’ve also watched men who spring into new life when their domineering hags, that they lived with for 50 years, kick off. They looked young again. A smile easily comes to their faces. It’s magical.
Men will literally work themselves to death at the behest of that woman.
Do I blame the woman? Not at all. She is being a woman. Extracting resources from him until he dies. Even after from his life long struggle and retirement funds. This is the way of things.

If your statistic is backed by legitimate background, I believe those unmarried men had no goals. Nothing to work towards. No aims in life. A man will always have those things if he has a woman. A reason to work and advance. Now if you said this, I would give your statistic a gold star.
The premise put forth by the creators of the information you are posting, is founded in a gynocentric paradigm. Where else would they get it?

Men that will die younger....

Men with domineering wives.
Men who are reclusive.
Men who retire and don’t make new star high goals.
Men who are gamers with no life.
Men with poor diets.
Men who have rusted from inactivity.
Men who don’t have sex well into their 80’s and even 90’s.
(Special note: from 60 on, married men have near zero sex with their lifetime woman. It’s a short walk to the grave. Once the woman is through menopause, there is almost no way she is having sex with that man. But give her a new man to fuk? Off and running.)

Your article is slanted. This is a new paradigm now. It’s unheard of that men don’t seek to marry and volunteer for servitude in exchange for rationed, and withheld sex.
I will tell you the most important thing you will ever hear. Don’t you forget this, EVER.
Your sex with that “reason to live” (wife), will absolutely dwindle to nothing while you work and work and finally be crushed. You remember these words for the rest of your life. Women don’t go without sex in one form or another. They live to obtain. It’s biological. Men live for enslavement to have goals and something to work for.

Lol no woman (with whom I am not blood-related) will ever be my reason to live.

I hear your points and I’m not challenging them incorrect at-face. They are biased however— skewed by your own experiences with marriage.

My point is, there is a fate worse than being high status and lonely, or low status in a sexless marriage. A fate in which a man has no sexual options, outside of payment. That is being low status and lonely. I think that fate needs to be avoided more urgently than marriage.

 

[rjc149]

I have no concerns with men who have fully succumbed to that life. They are already lost and I wouldn’t waste my time on them. Succumbed is the correct word.

Your assessment with that article about men being happier married is complete garbage. Being happier because they now have something to work for? Yes. That is purpose. Not marriage.

The semantics here matter— the article does not say that marriage makes men happier or that men are happier because they are married. It says that married men report higher levels of overall happiness than unmarried men. Marriage and happiness are correlative, not causal.

It’s like drinking. Moderate red wine drinkers are healthier. Not because they drink small amounts of red wine, like everyone wants to conclude, but because people who drink moderate amounts of red wine also have healthier lifestyles. They tend to have closer families, eat healthier diets, are more active, have more money and better healthcare, are more educated, don’t smoke and don’t abuse alcohol.

You can not drink any alcohol and be just as healthy as a moderate red wine drinker. You can be a bachelor and be just as happy as a married man. But, partnership and emotional security with a woman is often a contributing factor to overall emotional and mental well-being. Hence the correlation.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Thank you for explaining the article. I really can read though.

Look. You got the easy part over. You talked about it. Now you get to prove it. I have no idea who you are trying to convince. You or me?

I am not going to tell you what to believe. I will even acknowledge your beliefs and the articles you find to support it.

Acknowledge your beliefs? Absolutely. I still reserve the right to say...”are you kidding me? Really? That’s really fukking stupid.”

But in your case it’s a belief you want to hold onto and you will see those things that support those beliefs and reject anything outside of it. Fine by me. But at some point in time you are going to have to prove it to yourself. Please keep me informed to that outcome. I’m breathless with anticipation.

Good point. We have these things which we think should work. Things which should or would be ideal. And we have these things which REALLY work. Then we have these things which REALLY work for this one guy/situation but don't work for you in how you manuever.

 

[Bigpapa]

Good point. We have these things which we think should work. Things which should or would be ideal. And we have these things which REALLY work. Then we have these things which REALLY work for this one guy/situation but don't work for you in how you manuever.

the problem here Is that people want a silver bullet for their problems , which it does not exist

in addition to this , if someone had a sh1t marriage , it does not mean that everyone else is having one

by having this autistic back and forth like @TheFinalLine is having , I can easily understand why he had one in the first place

people trying to project by force something , usually are doing this because they have a very bad opinion about themselves , deserved or not . After a while people just give up , and try to find someone that is less annoying

people are just tired of negativeness and emotionally draining people

 

[rjc149]

Thank you for explaining the article. I really can read though.

Look. You got the easy part over. You talked about it. Now you get to prove it. I have no idea who you are trying to convince. You or me?

I am not going to tell you what to believe. I will even acknowledge your beliefs and the articles you find to support it.

Acknowledge your beliefs? Absolutely. I still reserve the right to say...”are you kidding me? Really? That’s really fukking stupid.”

But in your case it’s a belief you want to hold onto and you will see those things that support those beliefs and reject anything outside of it. Fine by me. But at some point in time you are going to have to prove it to yourself. Please keep me informed to that outcome. I’m breathless with anticipation.

Lol relax dude. No need to get emotional.

I’m simply saying I read the article, I take its point as valid, and I can understand the reason as to why married men report higher levels of mental health and happiness. It’s not a belief. It’s an acknowledgment that this study, and those like it, may have some validity to them.

But you seem to be insisting that’s all complete fvcking bullish!t. Marriage is actually brutal, life-shortening slavery. I don’t know better, the article doesn’t know better, it’s all just feminine imperative cuck bullsh!t. Because 90 year old men can knock women up. And you’ve been married. You know what it’s all about for everyone. It’s all a lie. Or something.

You have beef with marriage. You have beef with any advocacy, validation or affirmation of it. It’s personal. That’s the only part of your rebuttals I understand.

 

[Lookatu]

I’m simply saying I read the article, I take its point as valid, and I can understand the reason as to why married men report higher levels of mental health and happiness. It’s not a belief. It’s an acknowledgment that this study, and those like it, may have some validity to them.

Aside from all the stats, articles, studies, I've been surrounded and hanging out with married couples for the past 12+ years in the burbs and city. From my observations, I would say 65% of the guys that are happier in marriage are generally blue-pilled, beta, disney dream, white knight in any combo. As they say, ignorance is bliss.

20% aren't that happy but going through life married as they don't wanna get divorce raped or are afraid to be lonely and let go.

However I do see the other 15% just as happy being in a marriage the way they want on their own terms. Do they have to make some compromises and sacrifices here and there? Of course, this is how it is in any relationships. But they are still the head of the household and do things they want.

One common thing I see with marriage is that it allows guys to divert their focus and concentration onto other things besides females, like making money, raising kids, their hobbies, etc.

Then there's a lot of guys that feel empty without a committed woman regardless of what kind of job, material possessions, accomplishments they have under their belt. Getting married just helps them feel complete enough and allows them to tackle other things in life.

I'm not debating what's wrong or right here but merely trying to put some background on those types of surveys.

 

[FuzzX]

I love being married, especially when my wife bends down to tie my shoes infront of a ton of feminist cvnts.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I love being married, especially when my wife bends down to tie my shoes infront of a ton of feminist cvnts.

She should kiss you in the mouth immediately afterwards

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

It's still true. Married men are still viewed more positively in corporate environments. This is changing though. We should expand upon this. I've gotten compliments from married men in corporate jobs about my never married, childless lifestyle.



Approaching gets old fast. While I won't advocate marriage when younger, I will advocate for extended relationships. The process of continually sourcing new vagina is time consuming and emotionally draining.

When you're 60-65, you can approach women in non-bar venues in a similar manner to being 25-35. If you're 60-65 and single, it'd be a good move to live in an area near people in a similar life stage. Approaching women at the grocery store when you live in a retirement community in Arizona or Florida is no different than approaching women at the grocery store in a 20s/30s single dense neighborhood. The same is true of the parks or other community events in a retirement area.

Match and OurTime are growing rapidly for the 50+ age set as well. There are 55-60 year old women right now on Match and OurTime getting their inboxes flooded. They have more male interest now on Match and OurTime than when they were in 15-30 in the late 1970s-early 1990s.



As I said above, approaching is time consuming. When you're pursuing vagina, you're taking away from the time you could be spending on your career. Maintaining an existing relationship is less time consuming than finding new women. It can also cut into the amount of time you can spend on leisure time hobbies as well.

I was listening to a KS podcast. He was talking corporate and HVM married vs bachelor. I like KS overall but he's blue pill or purple. I saw him ebragging about paying a woman's bills. If baller status I ain't paying chit. Likely due to the big C at one point and viewing perspective different I guess. 6mon or less time line is whack. They skanks are dumpster fire. Not virgin or low kill count. Been pregnant. Been having abortions. Had been in pig roasts. When I see married men, I see cucks and Simps. Few exceptions.

After all of my approaching, I have a great sample of women's nature. I cannot fathom the idea of marriage nor playing house. It don't matter if you pull at the bar or the temple. Female nature does not change. Fellas need to be icy as ****kk. These skanks are from the street. not wife nor mother of your child.

Fellas need to shoot their shot just cause but purpose is the bullseye. this is where I dun goofed as a kid. I got approaching down. I sling D. I could be ****kk you rich but I spent a decade doing cold approach.

For the young blood on the come up, get past AA and acquire competence in Game. but prioritize purpose. I am not running game 7 days a week 24/7. women aren't worth it. purpose in life. chase that. I hit on baeeee when out just cause but the pandemic changed everything for me. my trajectory has changed. we ain't going back gents.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Actually no one of us is going to have a unicorn. We know female nature . There are some great women out there, but a unicorn can only exists if u are not aware of it's existence.

Contrary to the dumpster fire that is modern women, there still are unicorns. I'm saying it's so few and far between. likely religious or cultural but rest assured, if she's here in the UK or western culture she will flip. Women are power hungry. It's why they piss away smv throwing the kitty around in attempt to land a HVM. Her best is staked on that guy who won't marry her. Dumb ass will marry the slut off the carousel.

 

[logicallefty]

I'm 47 and it's only been within the past 1-2 years where I have been able to form a conclusion on the question of if married people are happier or if single people are. Here is what I have concluded:

For women, they only way for a woman to be happy in a marriage is if she has gotton her inner slvt completely out of the way. I mean rode that CC until the lips rub off and gotten it all out of her system. Also she needs to have gone through some hard times in life where she got a swift reality kick telling her she isn't as "independent and tough" as she thought she was. Then, she must also be with a top tier man in the LMS department or close to the top tier, top enough to where she can compare him to the dozens of men she has been with the past and justify in her mind that she will never find a man better. She has to truely be honest with herself and think she has the best she is going to ever get. If she has ANY doubt, she isn't going to be happy in the marriage, and thus, neither is he.

For men, married men are happier so long as they are with a woman who is happy like the one I discussed above. The woman must be happy enough to not turn into a 400 lb whale. She must be happy enough to cook/clean for him and enjoy doing it. She must show him respect, let him be the leader, and not be a cvnt to be around. For men, him having a chance to be single and ho' around a bit at some point in life will also help him be able to be happy with what he has, but I don't think this is AS necessary for a man as for a woman. I know some men who are in their 40s, married, and SEEM happy. And only been with 2 women in their lives, one being their wife.

Bottom line, are single people or married people happier? If the woman is happy, then I think both men and women are better off married. If the woman is not happy, then they are both better off single. In other words, a man is better off single than settling.

 

[redskinsfan92]

I present to you The Book of Numbers by Aaron Clarey.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

guess what , i just took my night redpill , the third and final pill of the day . and i agree
a married or even cohabitation is always gonna be happier than single.
you're are aslo right on the settling , not just in looks but in terms of lifestyle. they are putting up with some kind of bs at home , i promise you.

 

[Mister_Skinny_Jeanz]

I'm 47 and it's only been within the past 1-2 years where I have been able to form a conclusion on the question of if married people are happier or if single people are. Here is what I have concluded:

For women, they only way for a woman to be happy in a marriage is if she has gotton her inner slvt completely out of the way. I mean rode that CC until the lips rub off and gotten it all out of her system. Also she needs to have gone through some hard times in life where she got a swift reality kick telling her she isn't as "independent and tough" as she thought she was. Then, she must also be with a top tier man in the LMS department or close to the top tier, top enough to where she can compare him to the dozens of men she has been with the past and justify in her mind that she will never find a man better. She has to truely be honest with herself and think she has the best she is going to ever get. If she has ANY doubt, she isn't going to be happy in the marriage, and thus, neither is he.

For men, married men are happier so long as they are with a woman who is happy like the one I discussed above. The woman must be happy enough to not turn into a 400 lb whale. She must be happy enough to cook/clean for him and enjoy doing it. She must show him respect, let him be the leader, and not be a cvnt to be around. For men, him having a chance to be single and ho' around a bit at some point in life will also help him be able to be happy with what he has, but I don't think this is AS necessary for a man as for a woman. I know some men who are in their 40s, married, and SEEM happy. And only been with 2 women in their lives, one being their wife.

Bottom line, are single people or married people happier? If the woman is happy, then I think both men and women are better off married. If the woman is not happy, then they are both better off single. In other words, a man is better off single than settling.

pretty much you're only gonna be happy if you think you are.
to my surprise alot of men on this site actually lowkey want to be married, which is nothing wrong with that if it makes them happy . just a bit of a shock to me after the 70% of women divorcing , cheating and men raising children that arent theirs, all because she needed a provider and faked happiness and the man thought she was happy.
but like you said, if a man is near top tier LMS the reality of the situation is it will cause anxiety in her brain and she is less likely to stray if she feels she cant do any better, we all know women like to compare, they cant help it after all ...we are all trying to get in their vagina. they cant just let any and everybody in