Most People Settle (Yet Are Still Happy!)

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To say marriage is happiness is ridiculous blue pill beta thinking. Marriage just provides a false sense of security. Women are unpredictable, and with the laws and public on their side, why would any man commit because society, let an article, says so.

Remember, marriage benefits SOCIETY. Marriage benefits the RICH, the POWERS THAT BE, the GOVERNMENT. So all of the messages you hear are going to support it.

Not saying men should get married or don’t get married, they should always do what’s benefits them. Just remember, there are 2 sides to every issue.



 

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To say marriage is happiness is ridiculous blue pill beta thinking. Marriage just provides a false sense of security. Women are unpredictable, and with the laws and public on their side, why would any man commit because society, let an article, says so.

Remember, marriage benefits SOCIETY. Marriage benefits the RICH, the POWERS THAT BE, the GOVERNMENT. So all of the messages you hear are going to support it.

Not saying men should get married or don’t get married, they should always do what’s benefits them. Just remember, there are 2 sides to every issue.
The false sense of security thing is true. I used to perceive that society looked more favorably upon coupled people. I still perceive that but to a lesser extent. I have received compliments for my never married, childless lifestyle with shorter to medium term relationships.

The friends I've made in my city are all a bunch of sheep. They are mostly married, with one guy having a 5+ year long LTR. They've mostly moved to the suburbs from the more city core type neighborhoods where we all met close to a decade ago in our 20s. Every single one of them has gotten a dog, even the one that didn't put a ring on his girlfriend. None of them have had kids yet. They all seem to be copying a lot of elements of each other's lives. I'm the only one that has independent thoughts. Eventually, I sense there will be a divergence, when some get divorced.
 

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The false sense of security thing is true. I used to perceive that society looked more favorably upon coupled people. I still perceive that but to a lesser extent. I have received compliments for my never married, childless lifestyle with shorter to medium term relationships.

The friends I've made in my city are all a bunch of sheep. They are mostly married, with one guy having a 5+ year long LTR. They've mostly moved to the suburbs from the more city core type neighborhoods where we all met close to a decade ago in our 20s. Every single one of them has gotten a dog, even the one that didn't put a ring on his girlfriend. None of them have had kids yet. They all seem to be copying a lot of elements of each other's lives. I'm the only one that has independent thoughts. Eventually, I sense there will be a divergence, when some get divorced.
Are they all fvcking?
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

Aaron Clarey did a great analysis of the "happiness " metric and it's not spectacular. It's less than 15%. 50% of the marriages end in divorce and 80% initiated by women. insert child support stats. how many men are unhappy and in dead bedroom or cucked. Women getting fatter and body count is rising. It seems like a faulty idea way out of date.
 

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To say marriage is happiness is ridiculous blue pill beta thinking. Marriage just provides a false sense of security. Women are unpredictable, and with the laws and public on their side, why would any man commit because society, let an article, says so.

Remember, marriage benefits SOCIETY. Marriage benefits the RICH, the POWERS THAT BE, the GOVERNMENT. So all of the messages you hear are going to support it.

Not saying men should get married or don’t get married, they should always do what’s benefits them. Just remember, there are 2 sides to every issue.



I don't disagree but let me add, the vast majority of red pill are married, haven't competed in the current smp and are nuking ebooks or some nonsensical program. No receipts. Classic. A lot of common sense is necessary.

If a man gets married, it likely be religious beliefs and kids. The problem is that the women come after getting ran through. High mileage. Valueless. Can't cook or clean. Outside sex, what value does she bring? I am not trying to be a ****. Modern women are coming as used goods and baggage. Still wanting full price. It's laughable.
 

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The false sense of security thing is true. I used to perceive that society looked more favorably upon coupled people. I still perceive that but to a lesser extent. I have received compliments for my never married, childless lifestyle with shorter to medium term relationships.

The friends I've made in my city are all a bunch of sheep. They are mostly married, with one guy having a 5+ year long LTR. They've mostly moved to the suburbs from the more city core type neighborhoods where we all met close to a decade ago in our 20s. Every single one of them has gotten a dog, even the one that didn't put a ring on his girlfriend. None of them have had kids yet. They all seem to be copying a lot of elements of each other's lives. I'm the only one that has independent thoughts. Eventually, I sense there will be a divergence, when some get divorced.
They do. Not for the reason you or I think when we were blue pill. Men who were married were respected and responsible. Likely to get a promotion in the corporate world. Instead, he is a joke in 2021. Married to a *****. only fans or something like. Basic search and her shenanigans in slutting out is digital. not a ideal candidate for banking your mother of your kid nor wife stalk on. If anybody caught F&F collaboration with KS call in or Clarey questioning the whereabouts priority for marriage by post wall women. It's not existent. it's not shtick. it's crazy and delusional. I'm over 10k in approaching. It's simply not on the menu. Far worse men who seek this aren't out putting in work nor a fraction of my output which is purely sport. Not saying that it don't exist. It's just so miniscule a percentage a man must literally cast a new globally. The west is dead and the east is following. Operation evil is taking over. Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. Troll hard when skanks talk cereal relationship or marriage.

I heard my mates talk about a childhood pal as Connor got clobbered and hit into oblivion. He couldn't make it. The wife won't let him see buds anymore. The man IMHO got trapped with a baby and she stole his dreams. It came at the cost of a scholarship full ride for sports. No doubt he would have met hotter tighter younger. entirely different trajectory but no balls. He dun goofed. It dawned on me that McGregor was in a better position atm unconscious and as a meme instead of the simp. It's more the norm.
 
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Cant wait to hear what @DEEZEDBRAH has to say about this lol

But in all seriousness, I've posted this before, my friend absolutely settled for a chick in the looks department. She's easily a 4 due to her weight and 2 kids from some guy who is now in prison. But according to him she's a great partner, unwavering support for his success, cooks, cleans and is a good mother to her kids and their kid.I'm finding as I'm getting older that my superficial bar is going lower and lower if I'm thinking longterm about a woman. Not everyone can have a unicorn.
Simp like the fella I mentioned not allowed out to watch lfc or ufc. Wife won't let him. It starts in a LTR with concessions or not in the mood. Married men aren't antifragile. The willingness to walk. At least not without severe financial consequences.

Modern women have lost femininity. Have a shady trashy past not conducive to marriage nor motherhood. Women are not trained to be a wife or mother. They are irresponsible with their kitty, they vote larger government, a strong proclivity to victimhood, and poor lifestyle choices.

Eons of pickup haven't portrayed modern women in the most positive light. the numbers are not pretty and the sample is over a decade. Women are fatter, combative, delusional, time suck, fiscally irresponsible, and clueless about value adding. The idea of DHV is not something women are capable of comprehending. Aarons new book is full of data and referenced sources on women and a cost analysis. It's abysmal depiction of the SMP in 2021.

Ironically enough, this journey began with my desire to vet a wife one day for kids after my reign of terror. It started with curiosity on the game and dating. The first approach, pull, and leveling up. I have met some awesome women along the way but few and far from the mark. I can count on a hand those worthy of a call back after busting nuts. Still not worthy of a ring and risking current and future net worth on.

Jay mate, I highly recommend not lowering the bar. You nor I are going to marry a baddie. I wrote it off once I knew female nature. Probability is very low. If it's a family you likely will be well into your 40s. A escape strategy must be completed and implemented should things go tits up. I might add, there's places outside western world that are better candidates. Furthermore few places exist that are ideal for marriage and kids should things deteriorate. Do research. I heard that the Tate Bros mentioned some places favorable for kids and avoidance of child support cuckin.
 

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They do. Not for the reason you or I think when we were blue pill. Men who were married were respected and responsible. Likely to get a promotion in the corporate world. Instead, he is a joke in 2021. Married to a *****. only fans or something like. Basic search and her shenanigans in slutting out is digital. not a ideal candidate for banking your mother of your kid nor wife stalk on. If anybody caught F&F collaboration with KS call in or Clarey questioning the whereabouts priority for marriage by post wall women. It's not existent. it's not shtick. it's crazy and delusional. I'm over 10k in approaching. It's simply not on the menu. Far worse men who seek this aren't out putting in work nor a fraction of my output which is purely sport. Not saying that it don't exist. It's just so miniscule a percentage a man must literally cast a new globally. The west is dead and the east is following. Operation evil is taking over. Enjoy the decline. Pillage what you can. Troll hard when skanks talk cereal relationship or marriage.

I heard my mates talk about a childhood pal as Connor got clobbered and hit into oblivion. He couldn't make it. The wife won't let him see buds anymore. The man IMHO got trapped with a baby and she stole his dreams. It came at the cost of a scholarship full ride for sports. No doubt he would have met hotter tighter younger. entirely different trajectory but no balls. He dun goofed. It dawned on me that McGregor was in a better position atm unconscious and as a meme instead of the simp. It's more the norm.
good thoughts

I found the 10 sec fast forward option to skim these long yt videos.

I caught Rollo's heads up me2 warning referring to the video in Miami in Rich's delusional video and it made me think.


I think if 3 bluepilled people are going to be on a show(those 3 female postwalls) then maybe a new show with 3 more bluepilled people could be on to balance the bloodsport.
(3 male incels? 3 male afcs? 3 male disney-betas?)


My word, I believe avoiding me2 is about balancing the hyperfocus on BOTH genders to save their selfdignity shreds. You want them(all peoples)to be encouraged to digest the red pill and not spit it up in outrage and hurt and public embarassment.(<<some motivators for me2)
 

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Marriage. A young man’s burden, but an old man’s comfort.

Men these days can be “young” for longer, however. Men can effectively postpone marriage until their 40s or even beyond.

Career-driven, ambitious, self-focused men, ie. what we on SS all aspire to be, pay the price with crushing isolation and loneliness later in life and old age. It’s lonely at the top, and heavy sits the crown. Suicide rates are much higher for men.

Interest in sex naturally and inevitably declines after 60, even if you’re healthy. The freedom to “spin plates” with hot young women is no longer appealing, or even feasible. You want to settle and rest your bones beside the fire with a female companion. You want her to be there when your d!ck stops working completely, even to piss into a toilet.

In the words of Mr. John Mellencamp: life goes on, long after the thrill of living is gone.

So no, marriage doesn’t only serve women. It just serves them first.
 

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I concur with @rjc149

if you vet early on a girl for wifey material , the likelihood of having a complete crap marriage diminish drastically

most guys exchange commitment for sex with no prior vetting , which is a very dumb move , and then they appear in this statistics and scare the crap out of the rest

overall , with the right woman , marriage and ltr gives you the energy to pursue other things that can make your life better , like for example having more energy to go up the scale on the corporate ladder , or open your own side business

this happens not because she helps you that much or whatever , but because instead of using your energy to bang the sl8tty 9 in the bar , so thus wasting your entire night and not getting anything in return besides some tra$h p8ssy , you will use that energy to wake up early or learn new stuff that can be monetized
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

What planet does this statement come from? This depends on the frame you are living in as to whether or not you are happy in a LTR. If you want to generalize, most people seem happy because they act happy around other people. People are fantastic actors within their social circles. If you make a LTR a goal you will adapt to that goal for its own sake. Is that happiness?
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

Huh, article was written by a post wall woman. Who could have guessed that? I am not a bigg fan of journalists playing statisticians and social scientists. Let’s see, I (journalist) will create a narrative then go look for easy stats to back it up. It’s like science. Am I journalist or a scientist. Mark Twain’s possible answer: you’re an idiot and a liar.
 

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I concur with @rjc149

if you vet early on a girl for wifey material , the likelihood of having a complete crap marriage diminish drastically

most guys exchange commitment for sex with no prior vetting , which is a very dumb move , and then they appear in this statistics and scare the crap out of the rest

overall , with the right woman , marriage and ltr gives you the energy to pursue other things that can make your life better , like for example having more energy to go up the scale on the corporate ladder , or open your own side business

this happens not because she helps you that much or whatever , but because instead of using your energy to bang the sl8tty 9 in the bar , so thus wasting your entire night and not getting anything in return besides some tra$h p8ssy , you will use that energy to wake up early or learn new stuff that can be monetized
5 years ago I would've agreed. But in that small amount of time, 2 of my friends got divorced and not only did their lives end up upside down, but all the "advice" they gave me when out the window. I'm more convinced now than ever that marriage only works once you and your companion are fulfilled with life and are ready to put selfish desires aside for one another. The world is far more complexed now than it was 30 years ago and there's more to take from it.
 

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Men who were married were respected and responsible. Likely to get a promotion in the corporate world.
It's still true. Married men are still viewed more positively in corporate environments. This is changing though. We should expand upon this. I've gotten compliments from married men in corporate jobs about my never married, childless lifestyle.

Men these days can be “young” for longer, however. Men can effectively postpone marriage until their 40s or even beyond.

Interest in sex naturally and inevitably declines after 60, even if you’re healthy. The freedom to “spin plates” with hot young women is no longer appealing, or even feasible. You want to settle and rest your bones beside the fire with a female companion. You want her to be there when your d!ck stops working completely, even to piss into a toilet.
Approaching gets old fast. While I won't advocate marriage when younger, I will advocate for extended relationships. The process of continually sourcing new vagina is time consuming and emotionally draining.

When you're 60-65, you can approach women in non-bar venues in a similar manner to being 25-35. If you're 60-65 and single, it'd be a good move to live in an area near people in a similar life stage. Approaching women at the grocery store when you live in a retirement community in Arizona or Florida is no different than approaching women at the grocery store in a 20s/30s single dense neighborhood. The same is true of the parks or other community events in a retirement area.

Match and OurTime are growing rapidly for the 50+ age set as well. There are 55-60 year old women right now on Match and OurTime getting their inboxes flooded. They have more male interest now on Match and OurTime than when they were in 15-30 in the late 1970s-early 1990s.

overall , with the right woman , marriage and ltr gives you the energy to pursue other things that can make your life better , like for example having more energy to go up the scale on the corporate ladder , or open your own side business

this happens not because she helps you that much or whatever , but because instead of using your energy to bang the sl8tty 9 in the bar , so thus wasting your entire night and not getting anything in return besides some tra$h p8ssy , you will use that energy to wake up early or learn new stuff that can be monetized
As I said above, approaching is time consuming. When you're pursuing vagina, you're taking away from the time you could be spending on your career. Maintaining an existing relationship is less time consuming than finding new women. It can also cut into the amount of time you can spend on leisure time hobbies as well.
 

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It's still true. Married men are still viewed more positively in corporate environments. This is changing though. We should expand upon this. I've gotten compliments from married men in corporate jobs about my never married, childless lifestyle.



Approaching gets old fast. While I won't advocate marriage when younger, I will advocate for extended relationships. The process of continually sourcing new vagina is time consuming and emotionally draining.

When you're 60-65, you can approach women in non-bar venues in a similar manner to being 25-35. If you're 60-65 and single, it'd be a good move to live in an area near people in a similar life stage. Approaching women at the grocery store when you live in a retirement community in Arizona or Florida is no different than approaching women at the grocery store in a 20s/30s single dense neighborhood. The same is true of the parks or other community events in a retirement area.

Match and OurTime are growing rapidly for the 50+ age set as well. There are 55-60 year old women right now on Match and OurTime getting their inboxes flooded. They have more male interest now on Match and OurTime than when they were in 15-30 in the late 1970s-early 1990s.



As I said above, approaching is time consuming. When you're pursuing vagina, you're taking away from the time you could be spending on your career. Maintaining an existing relationship is less time consuming than finding new women. It can also cut into the amount of time you can spend on leisure time hobbies as well.
Unless you're 60-65 years old, I wouldn't give advice about living that life. I'm betting at that age, you have WAY more problems like health related issues and don't have time nor the drive to go out and find women.
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

Divorced and widowed were included which means that it did not work out in the end or someone died. With divorces its 99% of the time the woman's fault and she initiates it which means the guy is either worst off or not better than someone who was single. This supports black pill and MTGOW.
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

Tell that to the divorce rate. Most men and women settle in their relationships because they want to keep up with the jones. Those that have patience to find the right ones are the happy ones.
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

This is the dumbest and most insane thing I've seen in a long time.

Cucks settle. Are you a cuck?
 

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Let all the mgtow's, redpillers, blackpillers and sosuavers growl, bark and hiss with anger, but the reality is, married people are happier than any other group: singles, divorced, widowed.

Generally speaking, most people settle, both when they date and when they marry. THIS is the path to happiness. It is long term companionship, not short term, unstable relationships.

This is a common misconception. Happiness is relative, and it is NOT a destination.

You won't be happy (or happier for that matter) once you:

Find the "right" girl
Land the "dream" job
Make your first 100K (1M)
Etc, etc

It is a mindset. It is internal. So no, there is no such thing as "happier". Perhaps the word you meant to use is "fulfilled" and even then it is still an internal process. Nothing external should add intensity to your mindset or emotions.

Having said that, yes, we are mammals, we are animals, we procreate. It is a primal need to find a "mate". So in that sense, there is something "fulfilling" about settling down. Just make sure you "settle" for the right reasons, whatever those are for you.


Modern Man Advice
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

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