Mindset Consistency

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I feel like most of the time and around most people I’m confident and not self conscious. However, when dealing with some beautiful women I begin to doubt myself and my self worth. The biggest worry is that gnawing “Am I actually good enough?” in the back of my mind.

Any recommendations on cognitive behavior therapy or something similar to begin working on rock solid self esteem? I have read Pook and Rollo but it is difficult to truly internalize and believe The Great Catch stuff sometimes. I do my best to maximize my career which is rewarding and I enjoy, my hobbies, and my body. I have healthy relationships in general. I would like to work on improving my mindset.
 
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However, when dealing with some beautiful women I begin to doubt myself and my self worth.
It appears you are pedestalizing attractive women based on their looks. You may also have made a subconscious valuation that she is better than you, probably knowing little to nothing about her beyond looks in most cases.

Any recommendations on cognitive behavior therapy or something similar to begin working on rock solid self esteem?
CBT can definitely help but ultimately you can't just think your way into a rock solid self esteem, you also have to put in the work –– increasing your SMV, learning game, getting on your purpose, living the life you want, etc.

Take action and cultivate a reputation with yourself that serves as the required underpinning that self esteem is built on.
 

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Learn to stop evaluating what anyone says or does in a personal manner. Usually they are projecting anyway and don't really
know you on a really deep personal level.

Do they like me or not? Am I good enough or not? This is simply you going into your feelings because of
whatever emotions or insecurities "beautiful women" have managed to stir up in you.

Recognizing (being mindful) when you are going into your feelings and act accordingly (act rationally); acting rationally being that you are in a social game, better not to take things personally and focus on what's driving the others' behavior.

CBT basically comes from Stoicism. For a rock solid frame read and practice Stoicism.

Read the Enchiridion by Epictetus, a quick read, but in my opinion a lot of the points will not be grasped on first reading, it must be read and applied over again. It's freely available on the net.


And for a quick fix, remember this quote from Michel de Montaigne while you're speaking to "beautiful women" and extracting yourself from your feels:
"Kings and philosophers shiit - and so do ladies"
 

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Confidence is not earned. You project it. The only person who can ever decide you that you're now good enough for these women is yourself, and you can always do that now.

You CAN earn confidence by working hard at something and becoming genuinely impressed and surprised of what you're capable of. Like learning an instrument well or hitting the gym and getting in the best shape you've ever been. But when you do "earn" it, you'll realize that it was something that you've always had and you didn't need to earn it.

Also, you're probably thinking way too much. Almost everyone does this and it's what is destroying your self-confidence. I suggest watching this and internalize it: Alan Watts, don't think too much.
 

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I feel like most of the time and around most people I’m confident and not self conscious. However, when dealing with some beautiful women I begin to doubt myself and my self worth. The biggest worry is that gnawing “Am I actually good enough?” in the back of my mind.

Any recommendations on cognitive behavior therapy or something similar to begin working on rock solid self esteem? I have read Pook and Rollo but it is difficult to truly internalize and believe The Great Catch stuff sometimes. I do my best to maximize my career which is rewarding and I enjoy, my hobbies, and my body. I have healthy relationships in general. I would like to work on improving my mindset.
This is more common than you think. While not many men will accept this or be aware of it is a different story but it is common regardless.

Having said that, you are putting "beautiful" women on a pedestal as if they were any different than any other woman, except they closer fit the version of beauty the media has installed and forced upon us. The truth is, they are as "normal' as you and us. They have the same fears, insecurities, and issues as us. So the very first step is to normalize your view of these "beautiful" women.

Obviously, like many fellows here, we simply say do this and do that like it was that easy. Accept and embrace the fact that it will take some hard work on your end to change your mindset, and to be kind and patient with yourself. You are a work in progress whether you see it or not, we all are in fact. It takes time and effort. So always remind yourself of that and stop being hard on yourself for not being something you want to be right now. But know that you are in total control of making that happen at any given point in time.

Now putting all the fluffiness aside, the reality is that is all about thought life: Thoughts become perception, and perception becomes reality. Therefore thoughts shape our reality.

There is a science called Neuroplasticity (or related to this, neurogensis) that shows us that our brains are highly malleable. Just like the very concept of "I am" is highly fluid and malleable. We unfortunately live in programmed mindsets and narratives. Not to our fault but simply because we live in a society that is highly conditioned.

And now to our suggestion: We suggest to men we coach 1 on 1 to start a simple practice every morning and night. A 15-30 mins meditation session which should include various phases: Gratefulness, affirmations, visualizations, etc, etc. Again, know that it will feel forced and uncomfortable. Anticipate that ahead of time so you don't get caught off guard. Like any practice, it takes repetition to finally become second nature. But what you are effectively doing during these mediation sessions is your own brain surgery (neuroplasticity). You are creating new neuron connections in your brain where they weren't present before. It is, of course, a dense topic to get into over a post but hopefully, you get the picture.

Let us know if you have any questions.


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Remember, no matter how cute.. at some point in their life after eating some questionable Mexican burrito meat ..

They will take a big smelly diarrhea poo like everyone else. Nobody is worth more than anyone else on this earth, but everyone won’t find you attractive and that’s ok.


Also strongly recommend no fap and getting a ripped physique.
 

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I know some people can fake there way to confidence. I have not been able to bull**** my way into confidence.

The only way to confidence for me is to accomplish stuff and reach goals and do stuff things other people arent doing. Then, I dont give two ****s about what other people think including women.
 

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I know some people can fake there way to confidence. I have not been able to bull**** my way into confidence.

The only way to confidence for me is to accomplish stuff and reach goals and do stuff things other people arent doing. Then, I dont give two ****s about what other people think including women.
If you had confidence and now its diminished, you can remove negativity and whatever helped to diminished it. Then take positive action plan for growth and development. Do things you need to accomplish. Do things you enjoy. Seek to be around those who celebrate your presence and return positive energy.
 

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I feel like most of the time and around most people I’m confident and not self conscious. However, when dealing with some beautiful women I begin to doubt myself and my self worth. The biggest worry is that gnawing “Am I actually good enough?” in the back of my mind.

Any recommendations on cognitive behavior therapy or something similar to begin working on rock solid self esteem?
I didn’t have much confidence in my 20s, especially early 20s. My doctor friend recommended CBT for me but I didn’t go. What helped over the years was:

1) Getting absolutely demolished by society. I’m talking DESTROYED. But once you’ve experienced a bunch of things, talking to some beautiful women at Yoga who has probably f*cked a few guys 8 different ways from Sunday ain’t that big of deal.

2) Watching movies and tv shows, especially police shows. You see how people respond and react in precarious situations. I’ve had people tell me I’m a very sharp and fast thinker, I can see through alot of people intentions.

One thing I will say is: everyone wants you poor, broke, homeless, with no wife or children. Society does not want you to succeed. It’s in its benefit for you to FAIL. It’s in its benefit for you to get addicted to alcohol, drugs, porn, junk food. Society is designed for you to slowly kill yourself so there are more resources for the powers that be.

Why do we have cigarettes, alcohol, porn, junk food? It’s not good for us. Government knows this and they can ban it in 2 seconds. Yet it’s good for them because it dumbs the people down, it’s numbs them. Their thinking is “we will get you hooked, and then we provide the services to unhook you.”

I‘m going off on a tangent, but remember men, NO ONE wants what’s good for you. Not society, not your siblings, not your friends, not your coworkers, not your parents, not even your wife.

Be strong.
 
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