Why are men shamed for using escorts/hookers? Isnt that the ultimate dread if a guy has used them?

[derby1]

Look at it this way, the last 10 women i've managed to get out on a meet, 4 have been on the rebound, 4 disgusting attention *****s. 2 flakey, and 2 I laid.

the psychological stress, and time it has took me during my working day is not worth the investment off western women..

150 pounds for a hooker will do me

 

[B80]

Look at it this way, the last 10 women i've managed to get out on a meet, 4 have been on the rebound, 4 disgusting attention *****s. 2 flakey, and 2 I laid.

the psychological stress, and time it has took me during my working day is not worth the investment off western women..

150 pounds for a hooker will do me

yeah can imagine that gets tiresome. headup though mate , 10 dates not a bad turn around, what with covid.

 

[derby1]

10 dates not a bad turn around, what with covid.

a lot of hard work though mate, thats took up some serious time messaging when i have a life and a daughter

 

[corrector]

I’m not. I go to an Asian massage parlors with happy endings and have paid for blow jobs a couple times. I wouldn’t penetrate a sex worker ..

I have no shame about it. It cost me the same as a date, yet saved me huge amounts of time.

High five for the black dude that paid for an Asian. This is the most difficult women to date as a black man so I can see how you need to pay to supplement your racial options.

 

[Who Dares Win]

As usual it depends from which position you do it.

If you are a guy that relies on escorts cause no matter what, he cant get anything then its a loser situation.

If you are a successful guy that wants to release quick and fast before going back to more important matters its no big deal.

Also it depends what is the drive, is it just a quick need to release with less hassle as possible? is it the desperate need for intimacy? are you treating it not any different than going to the massage therapist?

 

[bat soup]

really, in UK that doesn;t get you a particularly good looking escort. looked for more expensive to see what they look like, but couldn;t find any online.

If they even exisit, which they must do somewhere, I imagine you'd be getting into 4 figure territory to get properly, tastefully attractive, top endones and not just the mid range porn star type looks.

You must be looking in the wrong place. You can get laid for £50 in the UK and 20 Euros in Athens.

 

[corrector]

I've paid for it back in December, 2014. The issues I can see that would be shameful is the fact that the escort is also seeing allot of other guys and you don't know who was just there before she saw you. Most escort fantasy is in isolation, which means you believe she is there to cater for your sexual needs, but forget she's actually seeing other men. Once it clicks emotionally that, yes, she has a past, that includes many guys including her own family who may have molested her, then that is just too much.

Apart from the vector that she's seeing an industrial level of guys, I don't see anything inherently shameful for paying for "something" because it's your money and you can spend your own money how you need to. It makes me feel that my money has more value and that every penny really counts. Someone selling that to me flatters me because it means I'm being taken seriously as a customer and potential buyer. I communicated by text with an escort the other day and she offered something by text and that just turned me. Made me feel special because something was offered for sale to me. I still have that text (but will obviously eventually delete it).

 

[B80]

You must be looking in the wrong place. You can get laid for £50 in the UK and 20 Euros in Athens.

I know you can, I'm talking about so called higher quality escorts.

 

[Aeterna]

I don't condone paying for sex because sex is natural and you are just making another man rich (the pimp)...but if I had to choose between:

1. Going a date, being the jester/entertainer, pick up the tab, and give her the power to decide whether or not we have sex

or

2. Pay for the sex outright and back on my grind (working out, side hustles, etc.)

I would choose number 2 for sure.

 

[corrector]

I don't condone paying for sex because sex is natural and you are just making another man rich (the pimp)...but if I had to choose between:

1. Going a date, being the jester/entertainer, pick up the tab, and give her the power to decide whether or not we have sex

or

2. Pay for the sex outright and back on my grind (working out, side hustles, etc.)

I would choose number 2 for sure.

That is interesting. The two escorts I dealt with back in December 2014 had female pimps, not male pimps. In fact, if a guy answered the phone, or a guy was involved, I'd hang-up the phone (ie. had tried looking into this back in 2002-2005 and used to crank-call escorts, and around 2005 I went close to seeing one but when a guy picked up the phone I was scared off).

The association with other guys, either as pimps or other clients, is definitely a buzz-kill. It's like there has to be a spell with me where I'm "tricked" into believing there are no other guys around or I'm out of there.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Exactly. The average woman think a lay is worth four, possibly even five figures. High end escorts only run $300-$500. Women are delusional.

If your cool with them it's under $200. As usual you cannot buy "desire", and your male image does deserve "desire"... Although for a short term, just getting a shot of pvssy is definately better than jagging off.

 

[corrector]

If your cool with them it's under $200. As usual you cannot buy "desire", and your male image does deserve "desire"... Although for a short term, just getting a shot of pvssy is definately better than jagging off.

High end ones will likely have less "traffic" and you are far less likely to bump into other "guys" on your way in, or on your way out.

At the end of the session of the second escort, another client knocked on the door, and I had to get organized to get out of there, and another old guy went to see the same escort I just dealt with. This fact was not mentioned or, if mentioned, not emphasized in the narrative of the fall-out that happened after this second escort, but it is worth mentioning now.

The cheaper the escort, the more low-class "anybodys" are going to see her, and the worst you'll feel about yourself that you dealt with someone like that, especially if you put your heart and soul into the session. When you go out in public then you see other guys and then you feel anyone else could have seen this lady.

I would maintain that jagging off is better than seeing a low-class or cheap escort. However, an expensive high-end one, especially a young lady that caters to the executive class business person, is still a curiosity since the guilt-factor and traffic factor might be better managed. I'm at a point that I'd rather pay an expensive price if it means I won't lose my mind afterwards because I'm feeling bad about the type of escort I just dealt with and the type of guys she is seeing.

 

[sangheilios]

I've used an escort once in my entire life, it was last February just before COVID lockdowns hit. It was a higher end escort, so a woman that will go on dates, parties/social events, etc. I just hung out with her and had some physical time that I enjoyed. It served a purpose for me on a personal level and I legitimately enjoyed the time I had. However, in my opinion I don't think it's healthy for a man to make a regular habit of hiring women like this, which I'll get into below.

If you are a man who struggles with the opposite sex, regardless of the issues (social, physical, etc.) then I feel like seeing an escort can be helpful in a manner which gets you past certain barriers you are dealing with. However, it's actually easier to just continue hiring these women instead of going outside of your comfort zone and dealing with the issues you face. It could eventually get to a point where you've been doing this for so long that you wouldn't be able to land a woman who is actually into you and be able to keep her around in any capacity.

If you are a man who is simply looking to have a sexual release, I think this is something to consider. As @cola said, sex is transactional, most women are going to be expected to be taken out on dates before putting out. Sure, there are hoes out there but from what I've observed most women who put out with hardly effort on a man's part are not typically something you'd brag to your friends about, the term "slam pig" comes to mind. I think the issue here, like above, is when this is made into a habit and from there it has the potential to cause some warped internal mechanisms you have in regards to developing relationships with women, if this is your goal.

I think using this on occasion is totally fine but I also feel that some of the implications, which I mentioned above, need to be considered. Another thing that I would factor in is that something like this should be kept to yourself. If you are dating a woman, in a relationship or married and she finds out you saw one, let alone multiple times, I think this would create some very serious issues, even if it was well within the past.

 

[bat soup]

I know you can, I'm talking about so called higher quality escorts.

High price doesn't necessarily mean high quality.

 

[Lookatu]

High price doesn't necessarily mean high quality.

Dude that's the truth. Let me tell you a beta ignorant story about me back in the day. I was on a business trip for my work helping out with a trade show in Vegas. I was 25 and it was my first escort I had experience with. I booked it online.

When she came to my door, she looked 10+ years older than her pics, she looked worse in person, had leathery tan skin. Looked busted in the face from partying, drinking, doing drugs for years.

She wanted money up front. She knew how to squeeze her pvssy muscles tight so the guy would cvm fast. I came in like 5 min and she didn't offer repeats. So I think I blew $350 for 5 min of terrible sex.

Of course she rushed the session and after I nutted, she was out of there. LOL

Friggin loser of the year award goes to me right there. I did everything wrong. haha.
Thought some would get a laugh out of it.

 

[corrector]

Exactly. The average woman think a lay is worth four, possibly even five figures. High end escorts only run $300-$500. Women are delusional.

Not really. You are comparing a civvie woman who could be tempted to do something like that vs a pro. A civvie would only think in terms of putting out with someone she is not turned on by naturally, is an otherwise healthy woman, but is just lured into it so needs a high price-point if its a curiosity or a one-time affair. A pro deals with a tonne of guys so they can think in terms of an aggregate amount which adds up too allot.

 

[corrector]

I've used an escort once in my entire life, it was last February just before COVID lockdowns hit.

Did you use one because you were worried about COVID and panic-bought at the last minute before the virus hit?

 

[rjc149]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

The only way a woman can feel actual dread about her relationship is if she knows her man is attractive and has options, in which case, the dread she feels is a function of her attraction for him.

A man who hires prostitutes is generally perceived to be the opposite of an attractive man with options, so I don’t think a woman feels dread that her man will go fvck a hooker if she withholds sex. More like disgust, and the urge to find a new man.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Thinking about it. It makes sense in a way that women will shame them since it removes their only power over men. Once men know the price of pvssy most women will be afraid. Therefore they shame men from using them etc.
If a woman knows a guy has used them, she is in constant dread. Thinking if she withholds sex he can just buy sex.

I think it's weakkkk and wacky for a man to have such rubbish game he resorts to buying lay. I am also libertarian so to each their own. I enjoy pickup and the pursuit almost as much as getting laid. Tbh I have had pulled and the pickup was better than the sex. Cute. But lazy. banging bod but nothing else going on. Even still, I enjoy putting in work and getting girls.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

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Dude that's the truth. Let me tell you a beta ignorant story about me back in the day. I was on a business trip for my work helping out with a trade show in Vegas. I was 25 and it was my first escort I had experience with. I booked it online.

When she came to my door, she looked 10+ years older than her pics, she looked worse in person, had leathery tan skin. Looked busted in the face from partying, drinking, doing drugs for years.

She wanted money up front. She knew how to squeeze her pvssy muscles tight so the guy would cvm fast. I came in like 5 min and she didn't offer repeats. So I think I blew $350 for 5 min of terrible sex.

Of course she rushed the session and after I nutted, she was out of there. LOL

Friggin loser of the year award goes to me right there. I did everything wrong. haha.
Thought some would get a laugh out of it.

I cannot imagine that. I wouldn't get hard from old fat or busted. I rather fap or keep my seed. I do get it. The ROI 9f chain gunning pickup for a decade + is short 9f insanity. Furthermore, I got some buddies in the business district. They live like the wolf on wall street. midget tossing hookers and blow. Not for me. The guy argued that tinder nor approaching offers the ROI of knowing he is going to bust in her mouth. Send a few hundred quid (he's blue pill) on patio or dinner dates and get no play. He is well over a quarter mill a year, under 30, owns property in London and buying more before thirty. Before 35 assuming he doesn't F up he's rich. 60 hour work weeks for years. Personally I rather approach but time is money.