The 20% OLD Rule

[jaymbrs]

Once had a girl which was good looking, I would say a seven on pictures . Talked for a bit and it came out that she got an 2 year old son(she was 21). That's a no go for me but I kept talking cause I didn't want to be rude . Later on she asked me how tall I was. I answered 181 cm. She was like "mhhh, I, usually like taller guys, but I can make an exception. This blew my mind. I deleted tinder and I am not planning to install it one day. They are ALL delusional.

100% delusional. You have some fatties claiming "gym is life" in their bios or just straight up ugly chicks with "demands". Are you ****ing kidding me? OLD is trash.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

They are practically cat fishing on the regular today, it's kind of sad

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

100% delusional. You have some fatties claiming "gym is life" in their bios or just straight up ugly chicks with "demands". Are you ****ing kidding me? OLD is trash.

Any woman today can use OLD, it is convenient, yet good looking women, as you suggest, should be convenienced by men before they ever hit OLD?

It is a black pill Beta mentality, this all or nothing, it's trash or isn't... You shouldn't bend over backwards for a woman, you also shouldn't use OLD cuz it's trash...

Like I'm sorry bro, your advice is trash. Most of the advice on So Suave is trash, just because you get a couple likes from a couple dumpster divers now your feeling yourself and your trash advice.

 

[Lookatu]

Well, I wouldn't say that the level of thrist is less over here. Yeah I could pay to **** a 9 or 10 but this isn't worth my money. These dimes want 300,400 euros and above for an hour, and right now I am not ready to pay for sex. And the other dimes get snatched by men who have many followers on IG , and since I don't have social media and I am not rich, I have to go out and game on Sevens and eights. That's how it works for me. Deleted Tinder several times. They don't even look like their pictures in real life, but demanding a high end male. So no OLD for me. But I have to admit we have some sex clubs that are great. SPA, Sauna, pool , buffet and all you can drink for 60 Euro ( with 1 ****) . Woman wise no ones above average lookin in these clubs .

Thanks for the feedback. At least you guys have sex clubs and legalized prostitution so be thankful for that.

 

[jaymbrs]

Any woman today can use OLD, it is convenient, yet good looking women, as you suggest, should be convenienced by men before they ever hit OLD?

It is a black pill Beta mentality, this all or nothing, it's trash or isn't... You shouldn't bend over backwards for a woman, you also shouldn't use OLD cuz it's trash...

Like I'm sorry bro, your advice is trash. Most of the advice on So Suave is trash, just because you get a couple likes from a couple dumpster divers now your feeling yourself and your trash advice.

WTF are you talking about? I didn't give any advice. I was agreeing with a previous poster about OLD being trash.

 

[OldComeBacker]

the PHD thread mentioned many women who think they're 9's, but actually 4's - 49ers.

but yes, ultimately I expect its the attention they get all the time that causes it.

remember a fat girl at work who used to take the p1ss out of herself around getting fatter and fatter, then would followup with well I don;t need to watch what I eat or workout as I'm still getting laid all the time.

That's the first thing I thought when I opened this thread. 20% seems low. I mean, the 49ers overestimating their SMV by what - 125%?

4s think they are 9s and think they should get a 9, but they look like 4s and are 4s. So guys who are 6-8 don't want to lower their standards for 4s, but it wouldn't help anyway since the 4s consider 6-8 men beneath them.

 

[OldComeBacker]

Once had a girl which was good looking, I would say a seven on pictures . Talked for a bit and it came out that she got an 2 year old son(she was 21). That's a no go for me but I kept talking cause I didn't want to be rude . Later on she asked me how tall I was. I answered 181 cm. She was like "mhhh, I, usually like taller guys, but I can make an exception. This blew my mind. I deleted tinder and I am not planning to install it one day. They are ALL delusional.

LOL. This reminds me of an OLD story I read on another forum about a guy who was very good looking and had a 7 inch penis (which is statistically near the top in real non-porn PR inches). Apparently some average chick told him that since he was so good-looking she would make an exception and consider dating him even though he was poorly-endowed.

 

[KindredSpiritzz]

LOL. This reminds me of an OLD story I read on another forum about a guy who was very good looking and had a 7 inch penis (which is statistically near the top in real non-porn PR inches). Apparently some average chick told him that since he was so good-looking she would make an exception and consider dating him even though he was poorly-endowed.

few women actually like a penis over 7 inches, they think they do til they get one.

 

[AttackFormation]

Once had a girl which was good looking, I would say a seven on pictures . Talked for a bit and it came out that she got an 2 year old son(she was 21). That's a no go for me but I kept talking cause I didn't want to be rude . Later on she asked me how tall I was. I answered 181 cm. She was like "mhhh, I, usually like taller guys, but I can make an exception. This blew my mind. I deleted tinder and I am not planning to install it one day. They are ALL delusional.

How tall was she herself?

 

[coyote_astro]

Being a busy man, as most of us here, I prefer to swipe based on the first photo only. All these fatties trying to disguise themselves as models have forced me to swipe through all of a girl's photos, till I find the worst one and decide based on that.

I am really considering adding a line to my bio saying 'if you are overweight please swipe left' or something.
I know that showing you have standards adds to your status, but I'm not sure whether I'll come off as a total *******

P.S.: not 100% related to the OPs post, but since the topic of OLD fatties came up, I could not resist.

 

[Bandolero]

How tall was she herself?

She was something around 170 - 173

 

[Bandolero]

LOL. This reminds me of an OLD story I read on another forum about a guy who was very good looking and had a 7 inch penis (which is statistically near the top in real non-porn PR inches). Apparently some average chick told him that since he was so good-looking she would make an exception and consider dating him even though he was poorly-endowed.

Brother. I've had fat 2's and 3's swiping on me right and in could not unterstand what they was Thinking. I'm not a model but I know I look good and I am ripped. 181 cm and 86kg, six pack ripped. Don't know what they was thinking being 5" 4 and weighing 180 pounds or more for a chick.

 

[BadBoy89]

I’ve met quite a few girls online, and their heads have been on straighter than girls in any social circle. Some of them have been hotter too.

Ill admit it’s a numbers game and you have to be somewhat lucky to connect with a decent girl online. But OLD should only supplement real life approaches.

 

[Fruitbat]

I'm kind of a big data and numbers guy and came up with this after a fair amount of dates, lays and plate spinning off OLD. This is a general rule that more often than not turns out to be true.. I'm aware there are exceptions to this rule (and every other rule). I've met up with chicks from OLD and been pleasantly surprised to find they actually look better in person. This is rare. This is no gripe against OLD. It just is what it is. I do fine on OLD, and source girls outside of OLD too so this isn't a complaint.

The 20% rule is this:

Women believe there sexual market value is 20% higher higher than it actually is AND the woman will be 20% less attractive in real life than their OLD pictures suggest.

Broken down, it looks like this for women on OLD:

Women believe their sexual market value is actually 20% higher than it actually is.

I.E a girl on OLD who is a 6 actually believes herself to be a 7.2 (6*1.2). Most people already know the reasons. On OLD, depending on what information you've read is anywhere between a 6:1 or 9:1 male to female ratio. So, desperate guys have given them far more positive attention than they deserve. They would not get this same attention where ratios are more balanced.

Women are 20% less attractive in real life than their pictures make them out to be.

They have taken massive amounts of pictures, gotten all of the angles just right, somehow concealing a lot of body fat. So, if they appear to be a 7 online, they are actually going to be a 5.6 (7 *.8) in person. I went out with a girl last night and it just surprised me how well she pulled it off. In her pictures, her arms looked thin and toned, which to me suggested a trimmer, athletic looking girl. When we met, she was carrying extra weight in her ass and thighs. Her face looked more bloated in person.

So, these factors obviously create a woman that has a highly inflated view of herself. Men then give them far more attention than they deserve compounding the problem. ..

Only thing I would add to this is that the 0-10 scoring system is pretty flawed. If you’re getting into 5.6 as a score, you have to be quite sure that all participants score in the same way.

As an example, I am not into this massive a$$ and booty thing. It seems all the rage these days for women to be borderline obese in the backside dept. What many men would term a 9 for me would be a 3, I may not even want to go there. Beyoncé or that WAP chick, for example.

I like nice slender legs, flat stomachs etc. some of my booty loving mates would say “give her a sandwich”

So, women also have this system. A 9 to some may be the chiselled Chad. To others, it’s the scientist, book reader type guy.

I wholeheartedly disagree with the whole “OLD is just for chads“ thing. Yes, prob for hookups. Those kind of girls seeking those kind of things want chads.

I am not a chad, I’m a slightly tubby guy, quite tall, good job, but no chad. I had a great time on OLD when I stopped chasing girls who want to be models, and stopped any pretence I was a chad, stopped 90% of “game” and just looked for women who were into me for me.

One of which is now my wife, a genuine 10 in my eyes, 11 years younger, hot, educated. She would have never gone for a chad.

so anyway, I’m just questioning the scoring system as we all have our own criteria and believe me, some women’s criteria is not what you assume - at all.

it’s different pre 25, but observe the number of very normal guys with hot girls, and chadguys wothwhat I consider fat girls, we are all on our own scoring system.

 

[OldComeBacker]

Brother. I've had fat 2's and 3's swiping on me right and in could not unterstand what they was Thinking. I'm not a model but I know I look good and I am ripped. 181 cm and 86kg, six pack ripped. Don't know what they was thinking being 5" 4 and weighing 180 pounds or more for a chick.

Another thing I've noticed is that even 2s and 3s have a such a supply of simps and other guys to give them attention that I think they actually get off by rejecting better men. It's an ego boost. A lot of men in the community have this very black/white thinking that men are only rejected for not being attractive enough, but there's more to it than that. And women fluctuate so much in their emotions and approach to dating.

 

[Bandolero]

Another thing I've noticed is that even 2s and 3s have a such a supply of simps and other guys to give them attention that I think they actually get off by rejecting better men. It's an ego boost. A lot of men in the community have this very black/white thinking that men are only rejected for not being attractive enough, but there's more to it than that. And women fluctuate so much in their emotions and approach to dating.

They know whats up. They just Poker high.

 

[Lookatu]

few women actually like a penis over 7 inches, they think they do til they get one.

There's even books written. LOL

 

[Stoic]

There's even books written. LOL

The foreward is written by Ron Jeremy.

 

[Stoic]

In all seriousness, I know it seems like the sosuave community is getting away more from technique and more emphasis on personal development, which is awesome.

But I think the way to deal with inflated egos on OLD is early on neg hits. Dont destroy the chick with them but neg hits will bring her back down to earth and more tolerable.