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You’re giving these women leverage by thinking you can talk them into showing up for a date. You can’t.
only had one first date flake out of 15 and i ended up dating her for 10 months. 12 out of those 15 were first date sex so i'll stick with what works for me i guess. If i won't pay or online dating im not paying for an escort either. Maybe because im older we have different mindsets on the matter.
 

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It has but a female who desires you craves your voice. Also overvtexting is over communication. Give her something to miss.
That's true. If she likes you, she wants the most of your presence that you can give her. Which means that if you're free with your phone but can't meet she'll be craving for a FaceTime or video call. Anything she can get to see you, hear you and get more of you.
 

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Wrong. Human nature takes thousands of years to “change.”
Either works and there is no real difference in results. Most people don't understand how to text properly and still are afraid of making "mistakes"instead of using it to their advantage.

It's pretty easy to use to your advantage, but you can't do it when you are afraid to learn how to.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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only had one first date flake out of 15 and i ended up dating her for 10 months. 12 out of those 15 were first date sex so i'll stick with what works for me i guess. If i won't pay or online dating im not paying for an escort either. Maybe because im older we have different mindsets on the matter.
12/15 first dates sex is Tom Brady like stats. You're gonna have to share your pointers.
 

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I know many of you disagree but i have found texting to be very useful in building repour. I text 4 or 5 women thru out the day, share pictures of my house, my life or a project im working on. They eat that crap up. After awhile they will eventually turn the conversation sexual in some manner which i use to escalate further waiting til the right moment to drop a **** pic on em. This usually nets some nudes in return which lets me clarify shes on the up and up with her profile pictures and i have an attraction to her. Escalate further, set up a date and 8 times out of 10 that date ends up in the bedroom. She's already talked herself into f*cking me before we even meet cause she knows something about me and we "had the talk". I also think it really cuts down on first date flakes, they arent meeting a stranger off the internet, they are meeting that strangely exciting guy they been texting all week with the hot tub that does cool wood working stuff. And im a chatty type, bored at work so i dont mind chatting. Works good for me and my personality but mileage may vary with other people.
Pretty similar to what I do. People are afraid of screwing things up by texting but if you just have fun, interesting convos not only do you not screw up, you actually raise their interest levels and they look forward to texting with you. Honestly I think these are the people who text stuff like "Hey" or "WYD" or other no value texts that never should be sent.

Think of it as maintaining connection between seeing them. People claim it's not possible but it works for me.
 

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Either works and there is no real difference in results. Most people don't understand how to text properly and still are afraid of making "mistakes"instead of using it to their advantage.

It's pretty easy to use to your advantage, but you can't do it when you are afraid to learn how to.
There is a difference in results. Talking and texting leading up to a date does reduce flakes to some statistically significant degree. However, it does not weed out insecure and moderate/medium interest chicks efficiently. That’s the whole point of doing it. I’d rather not waste time dating those chicks.

I’ve done both approaches over the years and every tine I’ve acquiesced to indulging chicks in their pre-date rapport building they turned out to be insecure or flat out batshvt.

The theory is quite simple; chicks that require phone rapport building are not in a good state of mind to do online dating. They are broken. They’ve had bad experiences. It becomes your job to worker harder than the previous guy (in her eyes) to prove you aren’t like him. Hence, my question remains...

Why do you want to reduce flakes?
 

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Why do you want to reduce flakes?
Because if im going to the effort to message these women, get their initial interest and get them to the point where i can ask them out and get them to say yes id like for them to show up and not leave me hanging. I'll judge their mental state after i bang em. I see where you're going with this but texting or not texting isnt going to guarantee you a quality woman. I get you're trying to date quality women but lets face it if we're getting them online quality is slim pickings. I'll settle for one i dont feel like smothering with a pillow after sex. I want them to show up for our date, i want to bang them and then after that i'll see if i feel like seeing them again.
I dont feel like any of them "require" phone rapport building. I kinda want to get to know them before we meet too, gives me a chance to weed out crazy before i go out with them.
 

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Because if im going to the effort to message these women, get their initial interest and get them to the point where i can ask them out and get them to say yes id like for them to show up and not leave me hanging. I'll judge their mental state after i bang em. I see where you're going with this but texting or not texting isnt going to guarantee you a quality woman. I get you're trying to date quality women but lets face it if we're getting them online quality is slim pickings. I'll settle for one i dont feel like smothering with a pillow after sex. I want them to show up for our date, i want to bang them and then after that i'll see if i feel like seeing them again.
I dont feel like any of them "require" phone rapport building. I kinda want to get to know them before we meet too, gives me a chance to weed out crazy before i go out with them.
The only ones that I felt required phone calls were during the middle of the pandemic after things calmed down and I invited women straight to my place to cook dinner since nothing was open. Talking to them a few times on the phone made them more comfortable about coming straight to my place without meeting first.
 

If you currently have too many women chasing you, calling you, harassing you, knocking on your door at 2 o'clock in the morning... then I have the simple solution for you.

Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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Or to "never text, only call". The game has changed and the oldies just don't want to admit it
So are you saying we must Snapchat,Insta,Whatsapp etc to get the game on ? (Instead of text..even tho these are glorified texting really in my view) So the "dont text" is dead,but ignore these other mediums at your peril....Is that what you are saying ? im not agreeing/disagreeing btw im just curious of your view here with regard to your comment
 

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So are you saying we must Snapchat,Insta,Whatsapp etc to get the game on ? (Instead of text..even tho these are glorified texting really in my view) So the "dont text" is dead,but ignore these other mediums at your peril....Is that what you are saying ? im not agreeing/disagreeing btw im just curious of your view here with regard to your comment
Lot of guys use snapchat and instagram for spcial proof, if they have good profiles. Online game has evolved a lot
 

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Online game is an oxymoron.
there is some game involved, otherwise you're just one of 50 other guys in her inbox every week trying to get in her pants.
I just had one tonight suggest i invite her over some night when i sent her a picture of my hot tub. We only been texting 2 days but she sure moved that along quick. Give em a peek of what they could be part of and they do the rest. This covid thing is great cause most women arent expecting you to take them out on a first date anymore. They know things are different now and they have to be too if they want some fun. Again, maybe this is only the older women, i cant speak to the ones under 40.
 
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