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Her behavior and her enthusiasm toward THE OTHER MAN is more reflective of being an enthusiastic orbiter, of the other man, imho.

Wouldn’t surprise me if she secretly thought about being with the other man, despite saying the other man isn’t her type.

If the other man ever became single again, her feelings may “suddenly” be made more known.

Be careful OP. Always evaluate actions over words.
 

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OP, picture this scenario for a moment. Let’s go back in time prior to your current GF... now say you had options: 1. A single mother who is going to put you in an emotional torture chamber and mind fvck you with continuous triangulation games 2. A woman who is secure in herself, finds you desirable, will love and respect you.

Your choice should be a no brainer, right? So why have you opted for this? Do you feel like this is the best you can ever get — like this is all you’re worth? I’d prefer to remain single, free, happy for the rest of my days than to be subjected to such humiliation. If that’s what you’re into, hiring a dominatrix would be cheaper.
 

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Bro, you are not overthinking here at all. Your instincts are telling you to see a red flag, so override them at your own peril.

Unless a man is gay, I dont ever entertain the possibility of my girl being friends with a man, ever! I can guarantee you that one or both of them have at some point assessed the other sexually. It’s only nature after all.

From personal experience, all the women I genuinely considered as mere friends ended up at the sharp end of my rocket. All it takes is the stars aligning and the perfect opportunity presenting itself. In some cases boundaries were crossed when alcohol got involved. In other cases, the chick was going through turbulence or neglect in her own relationship and wanted a shoulder to cry on, and in the process of offering a shoulder nature took its course.

My advice to you here is: pursue a LTR with her and override your instincts, but you will cry down the line. I would spin her as a plate and move on. Its only a matter of time before the stars align and this so-called friend folds your girl nice and good.
 

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Speaking from exact experience. She knows what she is doing. Be willing and ready to walk. Do not talk to he about the orbiter. Treat her like a plate and get some new plates going.
 

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Yes, my now ex wife never raised any of these issues, couple of levels below my smv, never had anything like this with her at all.


This girl is usually always on WhatsApp in the evening, just noticed that over the past few months.

Tonight she hasn't been offline for over an hour. Strongly suspect there's more going on here than him just dropping off weights. Daughter goes to sleep around 730, offline since 830... she could have fell asleep early, but out of character and ties in with this man visiting.

Strongly tempted to end it tomorrow, not worth the stress. Pulling stuff like exclusive talk last weekend, shows she can't be trusted and can't see it ending well whether that's next week or 5 years.

Taking the piss, her loss.
 
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Yes, my now ex wife never raised any of these issues, couple of levels below my smv, never had anything like this with her at all.


This girl is usually always on WhatsApp in the evening, just noticed that over the past few months.

Tonight she hasn't been online for over an hour. Strongly suspect there's more going on here than him just dropping off weights. Daughter goes to sleep around 730, offline since 830... she could have fell asleep early, but out of character and ties in with this man visiting.

Strongly tempted to end it tomorrow, not worth the stress.
This guy has the best arrangement here. He gets to smoke her at will, without taking on the responsibilities of a LTR (as thats the role prepared for you). You feed the cow and he gets the milk.
Nah, I would cash my chips in and walk out of the casino on this one.
 

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Always trust your gut. If your gut feels wrong about the situation you should trust it.

Having just come out of an LTR with this very same dynamic (highly inappropriate daily communication with another male “friend” where she shared details of our relationship such as when we fought, etc.), I can tell you that it is something that could lend itself to major issues down the road for you in an LTR. Imagine when you argue and she immediately runs to this other man to b1tch about you. Guarantee this guy will turn into a white Knight against you - whether he’s in a relationship or not.

I think if you are going to have an LTR with this woman that you need to set a very clear boundary when it comes to relationships with the opposite sex. See how she responds. If she balks at it in any way - you walk. It’s that simple.
 

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Yes, my now ex wife never raised any of these issues, couple of levels below my smv, never had anything like this with her at all.


This girl is usually always on WhatsApp in the evening, just noticed that over the past few months.

Tonight she hasn't been offline for over an hour. Strongly suspect there's more going on here than him just dropping off weights. Daughter goes to sleep around 730, offline since 830... she could have fell asleep early, but out of character and ties in with this man visiting.

Strongly tempted to end it tomorrow, not worth the stress. Pulling stuff like exclusive talk last weekend, shows she can't be trusted and can't see it ending well whether that's next week or 5 years.

Taking the piss, her loss.
the main problem is , as other people pointed out , is that she is looking for approval from the other guy .

I think that she is more an orbiter to him , than he is to her , and you do not know what it might happen if that guy will be single

a girl that is head over hills about you will start ignoring friends and stuff like that , basically spending most of the time with you . And this will happen naturally

do You feel that this is happening ?
 

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Wells she's just text to say how's my evening. She had fishn chips, felt ill right after eating them and watched a film with this chap and apparently he's just left and she's off to bed.
 

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Yes, my now ex wife never raised any of these issues, couple of levels below my smv, never had anything like this with her at all.


This girl is usually always on WhatsApp in the evening, just noticed that over the past few months.

Tonight she hasn't been offline for over an hour. Strongly suspect there's more going on here than him just dropping off weights. Daughter goes to sleep around 730, offline since 830... she could have fell asleep early, but out of character and ties in with this man visiting.

Strongly tempted to end it tomorrow, not worth the stress. Pulling stuff like exclusive talk last weekend, shows she can't be trusted and can't see it ending well whether that's next week or 5 years.

Taking the piss, her loss.
If you do end it (I hope so), just block / ghost her on everything — no fvcks or explanations given. It will make her feel totally devalued — you know that feeling, right? Nothing fvcks a woman’s mind more than ghosting, esp one you’ve been in r/s with. She’ll be pining for your validation endlessly.
 

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Wells she's just text to say how's my evening. She had fishn chips, felt ill right after eating them and watched a film with this chap and apparently he's just left and she's off to bed.
This behavior is from a woman who just recently asked you for exclusivity! You gave her your exclusivity and this is how she honors you?!?!

Her behavior and disrespect is unacceptable in my opinion.

Respond (take care of yourself) accordingly.

Your self respect matters more than anything.
 
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Dunno mate , I usually am quite optimistic and not an extremist , but in this case it does not make any sense her behavior :)

when a girl likes you , she wants to spend as much time possible with you , not her platonic guy

I never really experienced something like this , and to be frank I do not know what I would do if I where you . But for sure it does not sound like something good
 

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I would give her a chance to comply to a relationship that suits OP better.

Or make female friends present and see how she responds as others have suggested.

She could behave like that even if she had no feelings for the guy as is attention/ connection for her and she might think OP is totally fine with it.
 
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felt ill right after eating them and watched a film with this chap and apparently he's just left and she's off to bed.
Are you trolling now bro lol.......................shes watching a film with another chap?

the only power women have, is your fear of something....they have no other power.....

Whats that fear,......tell us?
 

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Or that’s the story she’s telling you...
With all of that ... She didn’t have the thought or consideration to reach out to you till now!?! She finishes by telling you she will now be unavailable to connect with you, as she’s going to bed!

Something is not right. Something is fishy, imho.
 
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I would give her a chance to comply to a relationship that suits OP better.

Or make female friends present and see how she responds as others have suggested.

She could behave like she has even if she has no feelings for the guy as is attention/ connection for her and she might think OP is totally fine with it.
Here’s the problem with OP laying down the law: 1. She’ll turn into victim and accuse him of being a paranoid control freak (OK when the boot is on the other foot — the boot that stomps on his nuts) 2. She’ll go cry to her guy friend/s, and turn them into her flying monkeys 3. It will make OP look weak. 4. She’ll say ‘Fvck you! No mayyyn tells me what do’ and end it.

This is why, if he does end it, he just blocks / ghosts her on everything because it will make her feel totally devalued that he didn’t care about the r/s, and that’s she’s not even worthy of an explanation.

A girl I was seeing for a few months... we were having phone conversation, she thought everything was going just fine, but, out of nowhere, I hung up on her and blocked her. She went fvcking ballistic, and was banging my door down for days, and was in floods of tears for weeks.

You see, a few weeks earlier we were both out at a club, I was getting drinks at bar, when she suddenly began sexually cavorting with two guys in dance floor. The other two guys found out we were a couple, and began apologising to me. I kept my cool, but that could have so easily turned into a fight. I didn’t forget her for that stunt so waited for the dust to settle, and stung her good n hard.
 

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Here’s the problem with OP laying down the law: 1. She’ll turn into victim and accuse him of being a paranoid control freak (OK when the boot is on the other foot — the boot that stomps on his nuts) 2. She’ll go cry to her guy friend/s, and turn them into her flying monkeys 3. It will make OP look weak. 4. She’ll say ‘Fvck you! No mayyyn tells me what do’ and end it.

This is why, if he does end it, he just blocks / ghosts her on everything because it will make her feel totally devalued that he didn’t care about the r/s, and that’s she’s not even worthy of an explanation.

A girl I was seeing for a few months... we were having phone conversation, she thought everything was going just fine, but, out of nowhere, I hung up on her and blocked her. She went fvcking ballistic, and was banging my door down for days, and was in floods of tears for weeks.

You see, a few weeks earlier we were both out at a club, I was getting drinks at bar, when she suddenly began sexually cavorting with two guys in dance floor. The other two guys found out we were a couple, and began apologising to me. I kept my cool, but that could have so easily turned into a fight. I didn’t forget her for that stunt so waited for the dust to settle, and stung her good n hard.
when she thinks you a simp.....


But you 100% Pimp
 

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This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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