Nofap is Bullsh*t

[Georgepithyou]

I hate to be a party pooper, but the posts about someone being on a 6 day streak and having loads of weird reactions from women is a bit annoying.

Confirmation bias: the tendency to search for, interpret, favor, and recall information in a way that confirms one's preexisting beliefs or hypotheses.

In other words, before you have heard of nofap you are in the supermarket and and you see an attractive women, she glances at you and then goes back to her shopping. You think nothing of it.

After being hyped up by the NoFap subreddit and being on a 12 day streak. You are in the supermarket and you suddenly realise that an attractive woman has gravitated towards you, she is being sucked in by your radiant glow. She is staring at you with lustful hunger and when you glance at her and locks eyes she suddenly feels self conscious and looks away, and pretends to go back to her shopping.

Both of these accounts could be used to describe the exact same event, but in the second one the guy is suffering from confirmation bias.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

Nofap is a fantastic way to build the very useful skill of delayed gratification.

 

[Romanemp22]

Nofap is a fantastic way to build the very useful skill of delayed gratification.

And also a great way to make money of it,whoever was the leader of the movement.

 

[17 shots]

Placebo effect has been proven to be real, so even if it's just in their mind, they are still benefiting.... so stop being a hater

 

[CoandaEffect]

I tend to agree with OP. I’ve heard all kinds of BS, like guys that abstain become more in tune with women. Like OP says I suspect that is confirmation bias.

I think porn addiction is really bad, and my guess is that a lot of self pleasure goes with watching porn. If that’s the case then I think it is bad and you should get that under control.

It certainly is a personal thing though, so if you think you get benefits from abstaining then go ahead and take a cold shower.

 

[B80]

I gotta disagree. It does enhance energy levels. If it did not managers wouldn't have coached it to boxers.
Its not majical powers its just bio chemistry.

some coaches also preach no sex in the run up to events.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

If anonymous strangers talking about NOFAP on the internet annoys you, you probably need NOFAP.

 

[Lookatu]

Anything done too much without regulation is no good. This particular act is no different.

Everyone has a different limitation point though and I think that's why these debates go on.

For me lately, I've been getting sick of Shrimp. It used to be hard to get around where I live and expensive. Now any restaurant has it and I've been endulging way too much on it over the past few years where I'm actually sick of it. I don't think I can ever think of Shrimp with the same value and craving I once had for it.

 

[rjc149]

"Nofap" encompasses a variety of ideologies and practices -- some quasi-legit, most total bullsh!t.

It was originally focused on quitting porn use, for those who were compulsively using it or addicted to it. Cessation of anything you are compulsively using or addicted to, that has a detrimental effect on your life, is a good thing. For instance, if a man is turning down opportunities with real sexual partners because he is more excited by a video of an 18-year old woman being anally gang-banged by a group of men, defecating the accumulated ejaculate from her rectum into a cup and then ingesting its contents, that's unhealthy and unnatural.

It got taken many steps further than that, however, resulting in its current iteration of advocating long-term abstinence from masturbation. A body of pseudo-science emerged to claim that semen contains "male essence" that is being wasted, or that women can somehow sense when a man has retained his "essence" and will then approach him or some bullsh!t like that.

Short-term abstinence will increase sexual tension and "load the gun" which can be beneficial in certain scenarios-- like, if you have a date on Friday, don't jack off that week.

If someone derives a sense of self-control by delaying gratification and it improves his life in some way, Nofap can also be beneficial.

But no, going a year without ejaculating is actually scientifically unhealthy for your body and unnecessary to accomplish anything of worth.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

But no, going a year without ejaculating is actually scientifically unhealthy for your body

I don't think it's physically possible to not ejaculate for an entire year.

Even if you never touch your pee pee you'd jizz the bed from time to time.

If anonymous strangers talking about NOFAP on the internet annoys you, you probably need NOFAP.

I also find that kind of strange.

A dude needing a bunch of other anonymous dudes approval to not rub a few out.

But you know who is the MOST strongest against the no fap club?

Low level ladies who make a living being "cam models."

They hate that as much as they hate red pill.

 

[Lookatu]

"Nofap" encompasses a variety of ideologies and practices -- some quasi-legit, most total bullsh!t.

I agree.
My thoughts are it's highly individual based on your mental/physical health, environment, nutrition, sex life. There is no wrong or right necessarily and will vary from person to person.

However, here's that quasi-legit info some are probably getting some of these theories from.

According to the eastern philosophy of Tao formulated over centuries and emphasized over and over again in Taoist literature, a man must preserve and retain his semen in order to enhance his strength, health and longevity. This philosophy believes that men that regulate their ejaculation to a minimum and retain their semen will grow strong and have a clearer mind.

However as each man is different, we each need to determine for ourselves which level of frequency leaves us most strong and refreshed instead of tired, empty and depressed.

Taoist theory believe that semen retention strengthen the brain as the essential nutrients in semen and related hormones are absorbed by the prostrate whereby they enter the blood stream and circulate throughout the body nourishing all tissues and organs, including the brain. It's a well known medical fact that semen and cerebrospinal fluids consist of the same basic ingredients so preserving semen nourishes the brain by making more essential nutrients available to it.

Also, as medical evidence suggests that men experience a significant loss of zinc with each ejaculation, eating a food high in zinc after ejaculation is recommended.

However, when ejaculation frequency exceeds the capacity of the body to fully replenish semen, men can experience chronic fatique, low resistance, loss of sexual drive, loss of focus and irritability. Long term excessive ejaculation can cause chronic low zinc conditions which can cause chronic fatique, mental confusion and significant loss of sexual drive.

I'm not sure if anyone remembers the Seinfeld episode where they joke that not having sex makes you smarter. I can see based on some of the data why that can be the case.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Nofap is a fantastic way to build the very useful skill of delayed gratification.

Nofap rewires the brain to seek real partnered sex to satiate desire.

 

[rjc149]

I agree.
My thoughts are it's highly individual based on your mental/physical health, environment, nutrition, sex life. There is no wrong or right necessarily and will vary from person to person.

However, here's that quasi-legit info some are probably getting some of these theories from.



I'm not sure if anyone remembers the Seinfeld episode where they joke that not having sex makes you smarter. I can see based on some of the data why that can be the case.

Interesting excerpt -- where is it from?

The last parts makes sense. Semen is like saliva. Your body is continually reproducing and replenishing its supply. If you spit your mouth dry, you're going to have trouble chewing and ingesting food, trouble speaking, etc. because your mouth is dry. But, saliva replenishes, and spitting every now and then is not going to impact your ability to chew or speak.

It's the same with excessive masturbation. Being in a continually depleted state of a bodily fluid is obviously never a good thing. But smacking it every now and then will not deplete whatever nutrients it provides (which is semi-quackery -- semen being retained in the testes for the purpose of being ejaculated is not making its components bioavailable to the rest of the body).

 

[Lookatu]

Interesting excerpt -- where is it from?

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I was already aware of Eastern Taoist's beliefs about the frequency of ejaculation. This is just some random article I pulled up but the same info can be found in multiple places.

Ejaculation Frequency for Optimum Men's Health by Ralph Teller on 1Vigor

Ejaculation frequency for optimum men's health and longevity. Semen retention. Tao and Eastern philosophy on ejaculation control and frequency.

www.1vigor.com

 

[rjc149]

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I was already aware of Eastern Taoist's beliefs about the frequency of ejaculation. This is just some random article I pulled up but the same info can be found in multiple places.

Ejaculation Frequency for Optimum Men's Health by Ralph Teller on 1Vigor

Ejaculation frequency for optimum men's health and longevity. Semen retention. Tao and Eastern philosophy on ejaculation control and frequency.

www.1vigor.com

Thanks, I'm going to read up.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Seen a chart somewhere that shows p0rnhub hits since the NOFAP site started. Figures for every age group of males dropped, unsurprisingly. But the total number of hits for women increased by 3.5%. So, men not engaging in self gratification, for whatever reason, has made women as a group, hornier.

 

[Kotaix]

In spanish there is the word "Pajero" which translates as "wanker". It can be used (usually by men) to describe a man who is weak or can't perform physically because he spends all his time jerking off instead of practicing. There's something behind it if there are words to denigrate the practice.

And I don't mean to say that nofap is a placebo.

Bu, it doesn't matter if something is just a placebo if it works. If it puts you in the mindstate where you're actually going to notice when a woman is looking at you and be confident, then it has done it's job. Confidence is something that you project, something you can always turn on and aways have.

Sometimes you just need the magic feather like Dumbo to fool you into realizing that you always had the ability to fly and you were just too scared to try without it.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

I'm not sure if anyone remembers the Seinfeld episode where they joke that not having sex makes you smarter. I

That one was funny. Kind of a parody of the movie phenomenon where John Travolta gets hit by a bright light and becomes super smart. I remember in the movie he learned Portuguese in a week or something.

In the Seinfeld, George stopped having sex, got really smart, and learned Portuguese.

But then he spoke Portuguese to a waitress at that diner and banged her.

Later that day he was supposed to give a speech at he and Jerry's junior high school.

But since he banged the hot Portuguese waitress, he got dumb again and couldn't remember where his JHS was.

 

[Epimanes]

Im with OP ........ lol .... but whatever to each their own.

 

[corrector]

In spanish there is the word "Pajero" which translates as "wanker". It can be used (usually by men) to describe a man who is weak or can't perform physically because he spends all his time jerking off instead of practicing. There's something behind it if there are words to denigrate the practice.

And I don't mean to say that nofap is a placebo.

Bu, it doesn't matter if something is just a placebo if it works. If it puts you in the mindstate where you're actually going to notice when a woman is looking at you and be confident, then it has done it's job. Confidence is something that you project, something you can always turn on and aways have.

Sometimes you just need the magic feather like Dumbo to fool you into realizing that you always had the ability to fly and you were just too scared to try without it.

One can use pheremones for that effect.