Can't feel entitled to fvck your own wife in todays America

[mrgoodstuff]

When men don't stand up to their girlfriends and wives or show some spine, they develop this anger that weakens them. They become passive aggressive. They create this narrative that justifies cheating: "This b*tch. I bet she does it too!"

The woman, on the other hand, does it because she lost respect for her man. All those situations in which he hasn't stood up to her lead to her current state of pure disgust. She still gets her financial and/or emotional stability from him, but needs some fire and passion in her sexual life.

Why break up with him? He is something she knows. They can still cook together and talk about her problems. Hell, she might even tell him about the other guy from a third person perspective to get some advice from her husband.

So both parties keep up the appearance of a relationship due to societal standards. Everyone is watching; friends, family, even colleagues. His or her boss might ask how things at home are. Oh they split up? Something must be wrong with him/her. Those types of conclusions seem stupid and irrational, but they happen nonetheless. You can't influence how people react.

In many of the cases, the situation was about "control" from the get go. And if someone and their group is singularly focused on "controlling" you, that's what they are going to keep working on. You as a man have what choices in that case?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yeah in GoodFellas Henry had a wife, a goomar, and then a goomar's goomar. He started fukking his mistress's friend. Lol. Cocaine is a hell of a drug.

LOL. He must've been wearing them all out.

 

[RickTheToad]

Yes divorce will take a rip out of a man. The more a man respects himself and the better he treats himself, the better life treats him in turn. The alternative is to complain about the ill treatment or do nothing about it, causing more of it to occur. Or to divorce and see all women as broken or bad and in turn thats all you attract and see. Or to keep complaining about women after your divorce, preserving your place in misery and limited thinking.

Our mind starts to construct the reality of what we are focused upon.

Best not to put one's self in that position. Just say no to marriage.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I just got thrown in Twitter jail for saying i hoped the NFL dies a slow monetary death LOL
which means i hope they go bankrupt.
Not america anymore

Dude i just read some Quora responses about Will and Jada. The common response is she's not his property and can fvck and spend her money on whomever. Which is how much of the country feels. A few masculine guys piped up and said then what's the point of marriage or a relationship?

 

[Who Dares Win]

Inb4 some retard reads your posts and say that you're mgtow agents trying to recruit people while you point out facts.

 

[Georgepithyou]

Dude i just read some Quora responses about Will and Jada. The common response is she's not his property and can fvck and spend her money on whomever. Which is how much of the country feels. A few masculine guys piped up and said then what's the point of marriage or a relationship?

Exactly, asking the real questions here. Why even bother getting married.

I do believe a couples should have a healthy sex life, if the wife refuses to sleep with her husband then that is grounds for divorce and she should get nothing.

 

[RickTheToad]

Exactly, asking the real questions here. Why even bother getting married.

I do believe a couples should have a healthy sex life, if the wife refuses to sleep with her husband then that is grounds for divorce and she should get nothing.

At one time, this was possible. In some states, it still is... It's called abandonment, at fault divorce (https://www.rosen.com/alimony/alimonyarticles/sexless-marriage/).

 

[mrgoodstuff]

At one time, this was possible. In some states, it still is... It's called abandonment, at fault divorce (https://www.rosen.com/alimony/alimonyarticles/sexless-marriage/).

Kind judges in those states to enforce that part of the law. Its fair practice.

 

[corrector]

All my wedding debts have been purged through a chapter 13 bankruptcy process. All my commitments to provide for my ex-wife (which I wasn't able to do in 2014) is purged. There is nothing linking me to 2014-marriage and eventually the debt entries will be removed from my bureau. Even the car I was riding in with her got totaled in 2019 and I got another one.

Still have some memorabilia, a wedding ring and some photos of the wedding and photo shots at a park just before. I am planning to get a divorce certificate (didn't get that yet) from the 6 year old divorce order since it should hopefully be accessible online and I wont have to travel to the court to get that.

 

[RickTheToad]

Kind judges in those states to enforce that part of the law. Its fair practice.

Believe it or not, female Judges are siding more and more for dudes than females.

All my wedding debts have been purged through a chapter 13 bankruptcy process. All my commitments to provide for my ex-wife (which I wasn't able to do in 2014) is purged. There is nothing linking me to 2014-marriage and eventually the debt entries will be removed from my bureau. Even the car I was riding in with her got totaled in 2019 and I got another one.

Still have some memorabilia, a wedding ring and some photos of the wedding and photo shots at a park just before. I am planning to get a divorce certificate (didn't get that yet) from the 6 year old divorce order since it should hopefully be accessible online and I wont have to travel to the court to get that.

You went into debt for your wedding?

 

[corrector]

Believe it or not, female Judges are siding more and more for dudes than females.




You went into debt for your wedding?

I went into worst debt than I had before. The wedding and anything related to my ex wife is part of a very small.fraction of the overall mega debt. I was "forgiven" close to $135,000 out of a larger debt so in my mind I never did pay for those wedding expenses, etc... since the wrack up if far far less than that. This is what happens when you are income poor , have credit, and too much brains with credit for your own good. Had well over $120000 in debt and took out a new $30,000 car loan when I started dating my ex wife.

 

[RickTheToad]

I went into worst debt than I had before. The wedding and anything related to my ex wife is part of a very small.fraction of the overall mega debt. I was "forgiven" close to $135,000 out of a larger debt so in my mind I never did pay for those wedding expenses, etc... since the wrack up if far far less than that. This is what happens when you are income poor , have credit, and too much brains with credit for your own good. Had well over $120000 in debt and took out a new $30,000 car loan when I started dating my ex wife.

Need to watch that stuff. Never buy s hit you cannot afford to pay off at the end of the month; aside from one's education (in some cases) and real estate. Everything else is a deprecating asset.

 

[corrector]

Need to watch that stuff. Never buy s hit you cannot afford to pay off at the end of the month; aside from one's education (in some cases) and real estate. Everything else is a deprecating asset.

Allot of debt wrack-up was based on legitimate expenses. Personal training in the gym, business expenses relating to being in a Remax Real-Estate office, advertising costs, etc.... again, if things do not work out at the end of the day you are stuck with a bill despite having the best of intentions. I'm not materialistic by any stretch and there was a rather modest lifestyle despite the large wrack-up of debt. The problem is you can't survive without income for a stretch of time period. I had no social support, welfare, and it was just do or die and I ended up with allot of debt in the end.

There is actually no regret to the wrack-up of unsecured debt since it was wracked-up over the space of 8 years before doing a chapter 13 bankruptcy. It's not like I had allot of credit cards, and went to bad credit after a year. 8 years is a good run-time before a crash of a system like that. With me it's not over as I'm going over journals over the life of the debt and crossing out all the commitments I've made to put that debt under control. Its a stretch between 2007 - 2015, starting with someone who signed me up for a BMO card at the mall in 2007 for a limit of $ 2,500.

 

[RickTheToad]

Allot of debt wrack-up was based on legitimate expenses. Personal training in the gym, business expenses relating to being in a Remax Real-Estate office, advertising costs, etc.... again, if things do not work out at the end of the day you are stuck with a bill despite having the best of intentions. I'm not materialistic by any stretch and there was a rather modest lifestyle despite the large wrack-up of debt. The problem is you can't survive without income for a stretch of time period. I had no social support, welfare, and it was just do or die and I ended up with allot of debt in the end.

There is actually no regret to the wrack-up of unsecured debt since it was wracked-up over the space of 8 years before doing a chapter 13 bankruptcy. It's not like I had allot of credit cards, and went to bad credit after a year. 8 years is a good run-time before a crash of a system like that. With me it's not over as I'm going over journals over the life of the debt and crossing out all the commitments I've made to put that debt under control. Its a stretch between 2007 - 2015, starting with someone who signed me up for a BMO card at the mall in 2007 for a limit of $ 2,500.

We live and learn. Our best teachers in life are our failures and mistakes...

 

[Tsar Nickolas]

Hi guys. I like what you've got going on here. This is my first comment ever on this site. A couple of thoughts:

Why would you ever feel entitled to sex? Why wouldn't you want someone who feels genuine desire for you, or least someone who is genuinely committed to your well-being?

People are finally waking up to the fact that monogamy and commitment are not natural, they're conscious decisions you make. Probably best if everyone goes to marriage counseling and discusses the big issues (money, sex, kids) with their partners before getting married.

E.g. Ask her what her plan is if she ever stops wanting to have sex with you. Is she feminist? Does she believe she can do whatever she wants with her body? Is she really committing to you for better or worse, or is she going to be a fair weather wife?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I went into worst debt than I had before. The wedding and anything related to my ex wife is part of a very small.fraction of the overall mega debt. I was "forgiven" close to $135,000 out of a larger debt so in my mind I never did pay for those wedding expenses, etc... since the wrack up if far far less than that. This is what happens when you are income poor , have credit, and too much brains with credit for your own good. Had well over $120000 in debt and took out a new $30,000 car loan when I started dating my ex wife.

Do you think you ever fully recovered from that divorce?

 

[Pandora]

Why men ever allowed feminism to even happen i will never know.

We thought we were gonna get more sex when they were burning their bras.

 

[corrector]

Do you think you ever fully recovered from that divorce?

Yes. I just need to get the divorce certificate. Since I don't believe in divorce, or that I would find someone else, I didn't bother to get that copy for myself because I didn't see the need. I'd probably go on fapping and watching porn and who cares about these documents, right?

My mother appears to believe that God has someone for me and this idea, to the extent its gaining traction, would mean that I would have to eventually get a divorce certificate, so if I'm thinking like that, it's better to get it now when I don't have someone, then to get it when I have someone and am re-living any aspect of that bad experience, etc.... I don't think God having a plan for my life, which could involve a woman, died along with the divorce anymore, or at least at this time.

One of the biggest relief is I don't feel like I'm in any obligation to provide for my ex-wife and have no further obligations to that debt. I don't have to worry about spousal/child support, or any financial tie-ins.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes. I just need to get the divorce certificate. Since I don't believe in divorce, or that I would find someone else, I didn't bother to get that copy for myself because I didn't see the need. I'd probably go on fapping and watching porn and who cares about these documents, right?

My mother appears to believe that God has someone for me and this idea, to the extent its gaining traction, would mean that I would have to eventually get a divorce certificate, so if I'm thinking like that, it's better to get it now when I don't have someone, then to get it when I have someone and am re-living any aspect of that bad experience, etc.... I don't think God having a plan for my life, which could involve a woman, died along with the divorce anymore, or at least at this time.

One of the biggest relief is I don't feel like I'm in any obligation to provide for my ex-wife and have no further obligations to that debt. I don't have to worry about spousal/child support, or any financial tie-ins.

Once you realize you deserve better you'll get better.