The Final Word on Looks

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So you are saying that a normie that dresses well beats a Chad that dresses less well? Sorry, I'm not buying this; women want to get naked next to Chad's naked body, so it doesn't matter. I myself feel the same away about women, so long as whatever they are wearing shows off the physique (e.g., tight T-shirt & yoga pants).

The only thing that FashionMaxxing does is prove the ability to BetaBux - and of course, Chad doesn't need to concern himself with that.
Chad who dresses like crap > Normie who dresses well.
 

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Personality and expressive animation can skyrocket your looks but as much as 3 points. Thats the BP for the BPer's
You can be Brad Pitt but if you're dead inside you are going to struggle keeping them. They will die inside along with you.
Life is energy as much as matter if not more
Facts. One thing not discussed is energy. I guess not because how can you calculate "energy"? But girls are more in tune with vibes then men ever will be. Ther is a certain subcommunication between men and women that is unfakeqble. One of the reasons why PUA and tactics never work if you don't get your mindset right.
 

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Exactly. By the way, there are plenty of pretty women out there who like the big teddy-bear types, but I would never bank on that unless I was a natural teddy-bear type of guy.
Women’s perception of looks can be fairly malleable based upon the energy you project. But again, the whole point of this thread is that so many men are paralyzed by what they consider to be ugly looks, when in fact there is plenty they can do about that to make it no longer an issue.
In that particular case , they were both at the same table and ofc they started talking . So both of them were locked in the same place , which gave the guy the opportunity to start the seduction process

plus the preselection factor , most likely he was not playing the minimum entry per hand

it would be different if he would do night or day game , as women are not locked to a specific place and you do not have any preselection to back up your game
 

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Exactly. By the way, there are plenty of pretty women out there who like the big teddy-bear types, but I would never bank on that unless I was a natural teddy-bear type of guy.
Women’s perception of looks can be fairly malleable based upon the energy you project. But again, the whole point of this thread is that so many men are paralyzed by what they consider to be ugly looks, when in fact there is plenty they can do about that to make it no longer an issue.
I guess the same holds true for "attractive" women in Hollywood that alot of men find hot; although they don't have classical cookie cutter good looks......Anya Taylor-Joy (Queens Gambit) Christina Ricci, Eliza Dushku, Amanda Seyfried
 

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Chad who dresses like crap > Normie who dresses well.
Lol. The Chad will get points for his DGAF attitude, and the Normie will be looked at as try hard.

You can be Brad Pitt but if you're dead inside you are going to struggle keeping them. They will die inside along with you. Life is energy as much as matter if not more
I appreciate this more as an older person than ever before. Energy is everything.
 

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There is no reason not to look well put together over sloppy or slovenly, ever. I mean how much effort does it take really to wear a pair of jeans that fits well, a fitted t-shirt and a cool pair of shoes? No more effort than something slouchy.
Chad can get by with a sweatshirt and tight shorts that shows the contour of his manhood. :rolleyes:
 

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She will prefer one of the 10 based solely on looks.
100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.
 

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100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.
Is she always gonna want to fvck the one in charge? Even if he's not sexually Attractive? I could understand that she'll want to get favors from him.
 

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100% disagree.

She'll quickly use her female ninja brain and do a hierarchy scan.

Then observer, verify and recalibrate if needed.

And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.
It is not really the case :)

usually a woman will have a preference based on looks and how you present yourself , that can or can not change if a more dominant guy is in the picture
 

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I have to say that I think it's as simple as her needing to think you are good looking. And depending on how much you meet her minimm requirement (maybe a 7) is related to how much 'game' you need to seal the deal

It's not about being well groomed and taking a shower (if she thinks you're a 4, but she can see you;ve taken a shower and workout and had a haircut, you still have zero chance)

It's that, luckily, not all girls have identical taste in what makes a man handsome. I feel like i've even experienced this in my life myslf a few times (getting rejected by 5's and end up pulling a 7 because she just happens to had unusual taste when it comes to looks)

But as someone who has a really good looking wing man, I literally cannot take someone seriously if he tells me 'girls don't care about looks like we do bro' bla bla bla. The stuff i've seen him do and how girls react to him and approach him is crazy.

And especially when we're talking about very young girls. I'd go as far to say they are EVEN MORE superficial about looks than us men are!! lol
Yes...I would say I am maybe a 6ish...6.5 if factoring in my build but I have had extremely hot women who I would say are 8s or 8.5s go crazy for me and tell me how hot they find me.

Everyone's idea of what is attractive is different and personality and the vibe you have with a woman will help you a LOT more than you realize especially if you meet their minimum requirement.
 

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And then pick the one who's in charge, whoever has the most relative status. The one the other dudes are referring to.

And dudes being in charge of other dudes have very little to do with looks.
Your Wal-mart manager don't get laid bro. But the Chad in the stockroom does

He's in charge of all the cardboard
 

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I hope that a few guys here and maybe hundreds of our multiple thousands of regular lurkers are rethinking the PARALYSIS of feeling they are ugly or plain.

It’s funny how in nature, usually the male of the species is the beautiful one. Bright colors, grandiose plumes of feathers, beautiful manes, the list goes on.

But in humans, it’s the direct opposite. The female is visually appealing just as the male is in the animal kingdom.

This means that the male of our species is not expected to look beautiful. We are expected to look trim, confident, strong, and weathered. Let that sink in before you reject the notion. Women love a rough, weathered look. Women love scars. Men are chiefly attractive by projecting ACTION and bold, manly activity. That’s not the stuff of “pretty boys”.

Beauty is expected of women, and that beauty always has femininity attached to it. I observe that women’s perception of beauty in men is largely based upon the STORY of ACTION that his body and his eyes tell.

This is less true of very young girls and especially party girls who are highly influenced by the media. You guys can have the bar skanks and party girls. If that’s your world, I can tell you right now that you live a life of dissipation.

However, real, authentic women of substance tend to get turned on by what I just described; Men whose entire persona projects action and some wear and tear. An aura of self-respect seems to be vital to attraction for women. That’s where clothing, grooming and presentation come in.

Your greatest asset is probably your eyes. When you look a woman in the eyesand don’t look away, you have just bumped your score by two to three points. 98% of men look away or down.

Women’s perception of attractiveness is so malleable and so complex and subjective, that we men can’t even comprehend it.

Men are all about PROJECTION. We shoot guns. We project power. We like to spit. We obviously anatomically have sexual organs that project out. We love urinating outdoors. Men shoot forth sexually and in every other way.

How many men know that the eyes project power or timidity to women?

Bottom line: If you consider yourself ugly or average because of your looks, you are paralyzed. You can easily unparalyze yourself by learning how to project forward a bold attitude.

Summary of how to solve your problem:
1) Make yourself reasonably fit. Fat is your biggest enemy and is reallythe only objective metric.
2) Dress to convey self-respect
3) Maintain good hygiene
4) Wear neat, clean shoes
5) Project confidence and superiority with your eyes. You should feel superior to EVERY woman, not in worth but rather in knowledge, moral fiber, and unshakable character. You are a man. You have authority. A woman can ONLY submit to a man she feels is superior.

PROJECT, PROJECT, PROJECT. Thrust your entire being forth into the world. Provide amusement and fun for yourself first and for everyone around you secondarily.

Such a man is seen as extremely attractive. Women are easily influenced to perceive you as much, much more than your objective looks.

THRUST and penetrate into your world. Yeah, you know what I’m saying here, pal!
 

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I hope that a few guys here and maybe hundreds of our multiple thousands of regular lurkers are rethinking the PARALYSIS of feeling they are ugly or plain.

It’s funny how in nature, usually the male of the species is the beautiful one. Bright colors, grandiose plumes of feathers, beautiful manes, the list goes on.

But in humans, it’s the direct opposite. The female is visually appealing just as the male is in the animal kingdom.

This means that the male of our species is not expected to look beautiful. We are expected to look trim, confident, strong, and weathered. Let that sink in before you reject the notion. Women love a rough, weathered look. Women love scars. Men are chiefly attractive by projecting ACTION and bold, manly activity. That’s not the stuff of “pretty boys”.

Beauty is expected of women, and that beauty always has femininity attached to it. I observe that women’s perception of beauty in men is largely based upon the STORY of ACTION that his body and his eyes tell.

This is less true of very young girls and especially party girls who are highly influenced by the media. You guys can have the bar skanks and party girls. If that’s your world, I can tell you right now that you live a life of dissipation.

However, real, authentic women of substance tend to get turned on by what I just described; Men whose entire persona projects action and some wear and tear. An aura of self-respect seems to be vital to attraction for women. That’s where clothing, grooming and presentation come in.

Your greatest asset is probably your eyes. When you look a woman in the eyesand don’t look away, you have just bumped your score by two to three points. 98% of men look away or down.

Women’s perception of attractiveness is so malleable and so complex and subjective, that we men can’t even comprehend it.

Men are all about PROJECTION. We shoot guns. We project power. We like to spit. We obviously anatomically have sexual organs that project out. We love urinating outdoors. Men shoot forth sexually and in every other way.

How many men know that the eyes project power or timidity to women?

Bottom line: If you consider yourself ugly or average because of your looks, you are paralyzed. You can easily unparalyze yourself by learning how to project forward a bold attitude.

Summary of how to solve your problem:
1) Make yourself reasonably fit. Fat is your biggest enemy and is reallythe only objective metric.
2) Dress to convey self-respect
3) Maintain good hygiene
4) Wear neat, clean shoes
5) Project confidence and superiority with your eyes. You should feel superior to EVERY woman, not in worth but rather in knowledge, moral fiber, and unshakable character. You are a man. You have authority. A woman can ONLY submit to a man she feels is superior.

PROJECT, PROJECT, PROJECT. Thrust your entire being forth into the world. Provide amusement and fun for yourself first and for everyone around you secondarily.

Such a man is seen as extremely attractive. Women are easily influenced to perceive you as much, much more than your objective looks.

THRUST and penetrate into your world. Yeah, you know what I’m saying here, pal!
Excellent post, especially about eye contact. I always try to make strong eye contact with a woman I find attractive. If it's an attractive cashier, waitress or bartender, I'll always make a point to look her in the eyes as the transaction is over. Sometimes they look at you and other times they avoid looking at you.
 
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