New to game, looking for some advice

[Lone Philosopher]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the forum and to game in general. I'm somewhat newly red pill aware and I've been trying to improve my alpha game in person and online. I wondering if you guys have any good advice on how to improve my game in terms of openers and closers with women. I've had trouble getting past the first few messages in a conversation on tinder and I'm struggling with getting past approach anxiety in person with covid and all. In terms of closers, I could use some good ways to escalate to get a number or snapchat. If you guys have any good advice I'd appreciate it.

 

[Kotaix]

You can use every day momentary interactions with cashiers and other women you'll likely never see again to get over anxiety. Even smiling at women on the street is good practice.

Tinder and other apps are mostly full of trash, you're much better off approaching women in person.

Once you build up confidence you'll realize that confidence is projected, not earned, and you never needed to build it in the first place.

 

[darksprezzatura]

4 STEP APPROACH PRACTICE

Often, it's just the will to go for something not the ability or skills that gets you where you want.

1. Move towards the girl slowly.

2. If there's eye contact, hold it, smile and continue moving towards her.

3. If there's no eye contact, position yourself sideways and tap her elbow, move your head towards AFTER she looks at you.

4. Open
Hi! (smile) I have to go in 2 minutes, but

- Do you know any other (gym/coffee shop/bar) nearby? Yes-> What is it like?

No ->
- Are you from around here?



- I'm guessing you're a student/ What keeps you here?

Interrupt her once, "wait what's your name?...I'm XYZ, nice to meet you"

- Are you passionate about it?



Listen intently, don't interrupt her, let there be pauses in the conversation.

Stay relaxed.


This is the first step you need to become comfortable with.

Practice this daily.

We won't get into baiting, dhv, negs, kino, false time constraints, qualification, comfort building, rapport yet, just get used to approaching people and holding a quick conversation.

Even while you're practicing, ASK FOR HER NUMBER.

Always ask for the number.

While you're both having a nice conversation and you made her laugh or something, tell her "I have to go but give me your number so we can keep in touch"

Bye!

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the forum and to game in general. I'm somewhat newly red pill aware and I've been trying to improve my alpha game in person and online. I wondering if you guys have any good advice on how to improve my game in terms of openers and closers with women. I've had trouble getting past the first few messages in a conversation on tinder and I'm struggling with getting past approach anxiety in person with covid and all. In terms of closers, I could use some good ways to escalate to get a number or snapchat. If you guys have any good advice I'd appreciate it.

First word of advice. Forget about trying to act Alpha. This whole Alpha and Beta thing is just way overblown on this board as if a person is 100% all the time one or the other and it can just be flipped on or of like a light switch by reading a few articles. It so dumb it's almost comedic in it's laughability.

Act in your own best interest. That's the main point you need to be focusing on.

 

[Lookatu]

OP,

Being the age that you are, try to talk to any kids that are girls. Be it your cousins, sisters, friend's sisters, etc. Think of your mindset when talking to them. And learn to take that same mindset when talking to any other girls regardless of their age. If you think like that you should have no troubles because most females act like young girls regardless of their age/experience and it will help your confidence and keep you calm and collected. My $.02

 

[Lone Philosopher]

4 STEP APPROACH PRACTICE

Often, it's just the will to go for something not the ability or skills that gets you where you want.

1. Move towards the girl slowly.

2. If there's eye contact, hold it, smile and continue moving towards her.

3. If there's no eye contact, position yourself sideways and tap her elbow, move your head towards AFTER she looks at you.

4. Open
Hi! (smile) I have to go in 2 minutes, but

- Do you know any other (gym/coffee shop/bar) nearby? Yes-> What is it like?

No ->
- Are you from around here?



- I'm guessing you're a student/ What keeps you here?

Interrupt her once, "wait what's your name?...I'm XYZ, nice to meet you"

- Are you passionate about it?



Listen intently, don't interrupt her, let there be pauses in the conversation.

Stay relaxed.


This is the first step you need to become comfortable with.

Practice this daily.

We won't get into baiting, dhv, negs, kino, false time constraints, qualification, comfort building, rapport yet, just get used to approaching people and holding a quick conversation.

Even while you're practicing, ASK FOR HER NUMBER.

Always ask for the number.

While you're both having a nice conversation and you made her laugh or something, tell her "I have to go but give me your number so we can keep in touch"

Bye!

This is great, will start to use this as soon as possible. Do you think Game changes with the state of covid that we are in? Does this effect flirty touching? Or smiling because we are all wearing masks now?

 

[Hoe Whisperer]

Talk to everyone! Before learning about game I was very much a head down/minimal small talk guy. I would talk and joke with people at work and parties, but nowhere else. Once I started talking to everyone in any scenario I could feel my ability and confidence growing. Doing this really helps you internalize that a hot girl is just another person and to talk to her like anyone else.

 

[darksprezzatura]

This is great, will start to use this as soon as possible. Do you think Game changes with the state of covid that we are in? Does this effect flirty touching? Or smiling because we are all wearing masks now?

Where I live, we don't have covid. Nobody wears masks.

If I were to assume otherwise, calibrate your approach accordingly.

Adapt improvise.

OLD has trash but good practice nonetheless.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Hey guys,

I'm new to the forum and to game in general. I'm somewhat newly red pill aware and I've been trying to improve my alpha game in person and online. I wondering if you guys have any good advice on how to improve my game in terms of openers and closers with women. I've had trouble getting past the first few messages in a conversation on tinder and I'm struggling with getting past approach anxiety in person with covid and all. In terms of closers, I could use some good ways to escalate to get a number or snapchat. If you guys have any good advice I'd appreciate it.

I Never use routine. After ages of pickup, you develop your own canned material and stack you run girls through. It's not linear. Pickup is circle. Think about a loop in program. Break ice, flirt, push pull. Body rock when you say you g2g. Seed dread. Guage her reaction when you breach comfort zone (3feet in any western country). Does she step back. Does she engage. *** I had met a girl for drinks. I hugged at the start. She pulled back. Leaned out. I recalibrate. Step back. Take foot off the gas. DOESN'T MEAN DISINTEREST. MEANS NOT YET. more flirt, drinks, banter, she leans in, we make out. *** less experienced men deem NOT YET as disinterested. Repetition of any sign of disinterest means **** OFF.

OP, Seek adequacy in game. Approach a handful everyday. There's no excuse for not doing it. The reference is what you are looking for. Get past AA. YOU CAN GET BETTER AFTER.

Approach. Test COMPLIANCE. Flirt. Push pull. Again test compliance. When you spike her emotions, TEST COMPLIANCE. Similar to Pavlov dogs exp. You remove attention from her for bad behaviour. You next ****ty attitude, flakey, ghost or attention *****.

Always acquire digits or Ig. I am old school. I prefer numbers not stalk on Ig and slip into DMs like every other cuck. Read MM. Adapt to the year 2020 but soak in the basic concepts. 3sec rule, preselection, dhv etc.

Bottom line:

Spoiler

every set is practice

Comply or bye. Be absolutely ruthless about your time. You next any ghost flake or attention *****s. You text. Send location. She comes or you lose digits. Obv if her mom died or whatever, you can reschedule but all you guage is her level of interest.

 

[darksprezzatura]

I Never use routine. After ages of pickup, you develop your own canned material and stack you run girls through. It's not linear. Pickup is circle. Think about a loop in program. Break ice, flirt, push pull. Body rock when you say you g2g. Seed dread. Guage her reaction when you breach comfort zone (3feet in any western country). Does she step back. Does she engage. *** I had met a girl for drinks. I hugged at the start. She pulled back. Leaned out. I recalibrate. Step back. Take foot off the gas. DOESN'T MEAN DISINTEREST. MEANS NOT YET. more flirt, drinks, banter, she leans in, we make out. *** less experienced men deem NOT YET as disinterested. Repetition of any sign of disinterest means **** OFF.

OP, Seek adequacy in game. Approach a handful everyday. There's no excuse for not doing it. The reference is what you are looking for. Get past AA. YOU CAN GET BETTER AFTER.

Approach. Test COMPLIANCE. Flirt. Push pull. Again test compliance. When you spike her emotions, TEST COMPLIANCE. Similar to Pavlov dogs exp. You remove attention from her for bad behaviour. You next ****ty attitude, flakey, ghost or attention *****.

Always acquire digits or Ig. I am old school. I prefer numbers not stalk on Ig and slip into DMs like every other cuck. Read MM. Adapt to the year 2020 but soak in the basic concepts. 3sec rule, preselection, dhv etc.

Bottom line:

Spoiler

every set is practice

Comply or bye. Be absolutely ruthless about your time. You next any ghost flake or attention *****s. You text. Send location. She comes or you lose digits. Obv if her mom died or whatever, you can reschedule but all you guage is her level of interest.

Gold

 

[Çharismo]

The first thing I would recommend you do is get a job in sales. You will become a machine at reading, engaging, conversating and getting over objections if you do it long enough and depending on how fast you learn and if your really good at it you might even make some money in the process.

Start to read books on self-help, history, personal finance, religion, fitness, diet ...etc and anything you find interesting. Basically what I’m saying is that you need to start educating yourself and fill your mind up with good and healthy information. Work on developing your smarts and not pretending to be smart...it’s a big different.

Start hitting the gym and take care of your health.

Have standards and pursue goals that are worthy of your time and don’t compromise them for anyone.

Don’t be a hater or critic. Don’t bring people down or cut anyone down to size. Associate with all walks of life and don’t judge.

Start meditating. 30 minutes after you wake up and 30 minutes before you go to sleep. It will greatly help with your mood, concentration, memory and many other benefits that you can look up yourself.

All this takes time but it’s a gradual process. You have to put in at least 10,000 hours of practice to get better at any skill so you have to stay patiently aggressive and continue on with your path.

Associate with high caliber people or people who are better than you in some way. Iron sharpens iron.

Get your sh!t together and your finances in check and expand your horizons and everything will come to fruition and most of all read all the information on this website and the differing perspectives with a grain of salt.