Her beta male orbiters

[kekePower]

Hey peeps.

Been with my gf for 6 years now and we have a son together.

Lately she's been in touch with a few guys, quite openly, "helping" them out with their mental issues, supporting them and so on.

Now one of them will be sending her some gifts from his country, Spain, and I clearly see this as a simp action.

It doesn't bother me at all since I am, and never have been, a jealous person. She's a grown woman and can do what she wants.

Been gaming her quite a bit these past few months and it's really working.

So... Me not being a jealous person - How do I approach her monkey branching with beta males in her virtual social circle?
We're in Norway and they are all in Spain. There is no chance she'll be able to physically mate with them, but there could be an emotional connection.

Thanks and cheers!

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

If you don't think it's good use of her time you can say as much. You can tell her that cucking guys can feel like emotional cheating to you or you think it's not ethical or whatever.

Personally I think if she wasn't cucking them then some other girl would. These guys are most likely volunteering to do all this simp crap. And she is most likely not gaining respect for them as a result, but quite the opposite, losing it. Thus you don't have anything to worry about, otherwise you'd come off as a bit of a simp yourself.

She is basically flexing her powers of emotional control on these guys, and probably getting a kick out of feeling that power over them. I personally would laugh along with her. If she starts to think she can do better with them rather than me then I'd dare her to go.

If she ever tried to game me like that I'd tell her that I'd much rather live free and die alone than cuck to her. If she doesn't want to follow me she's free to leave, no big deal to me.

If you are an absolute rock you won't be tempted or moved by simp bait. It'll just be fun to watch. If she really decides to go there's nothing you can do anyway, so why worry?

I used to date a girl that had guys sending her thousands of dollars from around the world when I met her. They were paying her rent and buying her things. She wasn't showing them anything, just gaming them emotionally. They were just massive cucks that apparently enjoyed fin dom by a cute little woman.

Foolishly I told her this wasn't ethical and she listened. She told them all to stop sending her money. It was only years later that I came clean with myself, that I had told her to do that out of insecurity, because I was afraid of them winning her over.

When you give absolutely no fuucks about that stuff because you trust her she'll just get wet af and fuuck your brains out. And by trust I mean you accept the risks, not that it feels safe or certain.

If you accept the risk that she could still leave whenever for whatever reason(which she could), then you'd be smart to stay focused on personal goals, lifting, socializing, etc, so that if it does happen you won't miss a beat.

 

[flowtheory]

Lately she's been in touch with a few guys, quite openly, "helping" them out with their mental issues, supporting them and so on

Wow what a saint she is to be assisting guys in their mental health!

How does she know these guys?

It doesn't bother me at all since I am, and never have been, a jealous person.

So... Me not being a jealous person - How do I approach her monkey branching with beta males in her virtual social circle?

So you’re not jealous but you want preventive measures so she doesn’t swing away from you to somewhere else?

Between this and your other thread it sounds like you’re consumed with what’s going on in her world and losing your power over pettiness.

Her messaging some random guys being a pillar of support is her investing her emotions in other random guys and not you. And you’re fine with it, because you’re not the jealous type.. But you don’t need to be jealous, because it is disrespectful, whether she's looking for emotional control or not. Her action is about other guys over you. She’s even getting gifts from someone which she is willingly accepting.

it’s not as though you met her and she was already talking to established people.. no. These guys showed up 6 years in to your relationship. Her talking to new men openly is her saying she doesn’t give a rats @ss.

you mentioned you’re not jealous twice and that you’ve been gaming her.. but you created a thread for a solution. In some part of you, you know this whole situation is disrespectful and she isn’t honouring you.

Even if she’s not seeking other options.. she’s lnvesting in other guys’ emotional welfare and being supportive over building your guys’ emotional depth. And when a woman is in relationship with a man she desires, she is going to be building that relationship and not gabbing with other guys.
The more she is open to them, the less energy she has for you.

This seems like borderline emotional cheating. And you’re still being the doormat to be allowing it. You think it has to do with jealousy (ego) but it has to do with respect of the relationship (love and selflessness).
The strongest and most respectful thing you could do is confront her because you know this isn’t acceptable. Where’s your backbone?

Relationsjips are about standards and boundaries. Not about eating your partners shiit. You teach people how to to treat you and they do so accordingly. I bet you’ve let way too many things slide for the sanctity of the relationship, and what’s good for her. But through that you’ve lost aspects of yourself which give you personal power and are rooted in self-love.

 

[SW15]

It's annoying but better than physical cheating. Keep a close eye on it because it could eventually escalate to that. If not with a Spainard, then something with a Norwegian.

Most orbiters get pisssed eventually that they are not slamming the vag.

One of the more overlooked elements of game is that it is useful beyond the initial stages of the relationship. Tactics of it are useful as part of longer term retention. I'd focus on doing hardcore game for retention purposes and these long distance orbiters may fall off.

It seems like a critical juncture in the relationship.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

Did she say why this happened? How does she know these guys?




So you’re not jealous but you want preventive measures so she doesn’t swing away from you to somewhere else?

Between this and your other thread it sounds like you’re consumed with what’s going on in her world and losing your power over pettiness.

Her messaging some random guys being a pillar of support is her investing her emotions in other random guys and not you. And you’re fine with it, because you’re not the jealous type.. But you don’t need to be jealous, because it is disrespectful, whether she's looking for emotional control or not. Her action is about other guys over you. She’s even getting gifts from someone which she is willingly accepting.

it’s not as though you met her and she was already talking to established people.. no. These guys showed up 6 years in to your relationship. Her talking to new men openly is her saying she doesn’t give a rats @ss.

you mentioned you’re not jealous twice and that you’ve been gaming her.. but you created a thread for a solution. In some part of you, you know this whole situation is disrespectful and she isn’t honouring you.

Even if she’s not seeking other options.. she’s lnvesting in other guys’ emotional welfare and being supportive over building your guys’ emotional depth. And when a woman is in relationship with a man she desires, she is going to be building that relationship and not gabbing with other guys.
The more she is open to them, the less energy she has for you.

This is a good point. My post was assuming no real emotional investment in the other guys and only playing them for fun. OP if your gut senses this is disrespectful and she on occasion puts them ahead of you then what flow is saying makes sense.

And I didn't want to mention it but flow said it heh, that you wouldn't have made this thread if you weren't jealous.

Btw OP you shouldn't be gaming your SO. You already have her? Wtf is there to game? Be authentic and a good partner. Game playing with your SO makes me think you manipulate her to feel better about yourself, which is insanely weak behavior.

If you're stupid weak then you'll be super sensitive and anything she does will upset you and feel like disrespect. Karma's a biitch ain't it?

 

[speed dawg]

I would tell her to quit entertaining other guys, and accept the outcome. You have a son, and 'theoretically' you are a family. If she falls in line and starts acting right, great. If she doesn't, I'd start writing a journal of all the times she does this dumb sh*t with other guys, and have that ready for the custody battle if it happens. And by the way, keep your nose above water yourself while in that - do not get other girls in front of her/the kid, and don't mess up and 'abuse' her or anything like that.

 

[kekePower]

Yeah. I've let a lot of shait slip through over the years being the good simp I was.

Setting boundaries has never been my strong side and I honestly believe that the Red Pill has saved my life.

I've suffered from depression from the age of 10 and looking back now after having taken my red meds, I can see that it was the blue pill that was a large part of my depression. Not knowing how to assert myself, not knowing how to be a better man, not knowing that I should have chased excellence instead of girls, not knowing that putting myself first would be the best thing.

Just because i "have her" doesn't mean I can't game her. Game in an LTR can be a lot of fun. Simple banter to keep things spicy. Not taking everything too seriously and having more fun instead of the every day routines.

 

[Lookatu]

I would tell her to quit entertaining other guys, and accept the outcome. You have a son, and 'theoretically' you are a family. If she falls in line and starts acting right, great. If she doesn't, I'd start writing a journal of all the times she does this dumb sh*t with other guys, and have that ready for the custody battle if it happens. And by the way, keep your nose above water yourself while in that - do not get other girls in front of her/the kid, and don't mess up and 'abuse' her or anything like that.

This.

I don't see how she can be your "GF" still and emotionally cheat with other guys. You say the guys from Spain are simps but it also seems like you're not putting your foot down either.

Is she only viewing you as a provider at this point?

 

[kekePower]

This.

I don't see how she can be your "GF" still and emotionally cheat with other guys. You say the guys from Spain are simps but it also seems like you're not putting your foot down either.

Is she only viewing you as a provider at this point?

I've been a provider since day one. She lost her job and "decided" to move with me to Norway. I even paid for her appartment in Spain for a while. Damn I simped hard.

 

[derby1]

Setting boundaries has never been my strong side

"Im really not comfortable with you entertaining other guys, knowing full well what they want, it kills MY attraction for YOU"

 

[flowtheory]

Just because i "have her" doesn't mean I can't game her. Game in an LTR can be a lot of fun. Simple banter to keep things spicy. Not taking everything too seriously and having more fun instead of the every day routines.

It seems as though you’re just taking what she gives you and trying to be unaffected whilst being effected. When in reality that’s weak. Being unaffected comes when you possess value and have the ability to cut things which don’t align with you. Whatever that may be. And that’s power. Right now she has the power. You’re being ‘gamed’ because she’s sopping your energy on pettiness.

And throughout your previous post youre putting things in red pill or blue pill. And now that you self-identify as red pill it negates a lot of your choices. That’s a defence mechanism and your being unaccountable to the past.

The only way forward is tobe responsible that you’ve always given your power away because your a person pleaser, because you see yourself as lacking value.

Everything here isn’t about her. It’s all about your justifications for why things are the way they are and posturing that you’re unaffected- but you are - and your lack of voicing how you really feel and not doing what YOU want.

I almost think losing this relationship would be the only way for you to see this.

 

[kekePower]

It seems as though you’re just taking what she gives you and trying to be unaffected whilst being effected. When in reality that’s weak. Being unaffected comes when you possess value and have the ability to cut things which don’t align with you. Whatever that may be. And that’s power. Right now she has the power. You’re being ‘gamed’ because she’s sopping your energy on pettiness.

And throughout your previous post youre putting things in red pill or blue pill. And now that you self-identify as red pill it negates a lot of your choices. That’s a defence mechanism and your being unaccountable to the past.

The only way forward is tobe responsible that you’ve always given your power away because your a person pleaser, because you see yourself as lacking value.

Everything here isn’t about her. It’s all about your justifications for why things are the way they are and posturing that you’re unaffected- but you are - and your lack of voicing how you really feel and not doing what YOU want.

I almost think losing this relationship would be the only way for you to see this.

You're right.

A story to explain.

One time I sat silent for one whole hour while she poured her heart out bashing me, my life, my choices and basically telling me how useless I was. I just took it.
Looking back now I can see how blue pilled I was. Yes, I have taken the red pill and I guess that at this point I am more of a purple pill with a lot to learn.

I am affected by her demeanor and I believe it is partly due to my personality disorder.

Yes, she has the power. I am, however, not accepting shait anymore and trying hard to not become an *******.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You're right.

A story to explain.

One time I sat silent for one whole hour while she poured her heart out bashing me, my life, my choices and basically telling me how useless I was. I just took it.
Looking back now I can see how blue pilled I was. Yes, I have taken the red pill and I guess that at this point I am more of a purple pill with a lot to learn.

I am affected by her demeanor and I believe it is partly due to my personality disorder.

Yes, she has the power. I am, however, not accepting shait anymore and trying hard to not become an *******.

So how do you thiink you rip your "power" back, and remove her qualifications of who you are as a man?

 

[kekePower]

So how do you thiink you rip your "power" back, and remove her qualifications of who you are as a man?

I have no idea. I'm consuming RP content every day to learn as much as I can.

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[mrgoodstuff]

I have no idea. I'm consuming RP content every day to learn as much as I can.

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Listen to YOURSELF. You need to get self control. 2-4 hours a day immersed in your own desires outside of work and outside of her. That's how you pull your "control" back to yourself. Have several other groups or people where you have a relatively high standing with. Remove all of her views and opinions on your image. It's a hard position, not impossible, and the sane and better answer is the start with someone who already sees you in a good light.

 

[Lookatu]

One time I sat silent for one whole hour while she poured her heart out bashing me, my life, my choices and basically telling me how useless I was. I just took it.

Next time this happens, just say this simple thing and nothing else: "Ok then just leave if you're not happy." It really is that simple.

Maybe she used to stay with you because you were/are a provider. But now you two share a kid which is another reason for her but neither are the right reasons for both of your happiness unfortunately.

In the mean time, find out what the custody laws are in your area in case it ever came to this.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

I have no idea. I'm consuming RP content every day to learn as much as I can.

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I'll tell you how, you identify what you believe are key ingredients for a good relationship, and then you stand behind those principles unwavering. You must be willing to walk if those principles are violated. If you're not willing to walk then you are toast.

If a woman ever starts berating me like you mentioned above it would be an immediate deal breaker. The women I see wouldn't dare talk negatively to me about anything. They know that in order to be in my life they have to be proactive. Anything else is unacceptable.

And wtf kind of games are you playing with your SO? What you described is foreplay or something. Maybe if you were checking her bad behavior or giving her shiit tests we could call it game.

But you need inner game. Quit sulking, get rid of your resentment towards her, and man up. I'm willing to bet you'll have to leave her to get the point across because she won't believe you otherwise.

 

[flowtheory]

Yes, she has the power. I am, however, not accepting shait anymore and trying hard to not become an *******.

Having self-respect is knowing your boundaries and self-value. One doesn’t have to be an asshoole. But don’t look at it that she has the power, like it’s a beach ball where only one can hold at a time - to give a visual. She does things, and you accept that, while sacrificing your self-respect in the process.
Then you play HER game and call it having game.. No. You’re just playing in her toxic world while holding resentment and being reminded that you don’t have her respect as a man. She just pushes you around by the sounds of it, and you let it all slide.

Remember: women act in accordance with how YOU show up. It’s a reflection. And she’s OPENLY showing you other men are more important, probably because you agree with it.

 

[derby1]

I have no idea. I'm consuming RP content every day to learn as much as I can.

Sandman
Coach Greg Adams
Rollo
Rich Cooper
Donovan Sharpe
Kevin Samuels

the mistake most guys make is, show dominance and attention withdrawal, then allow the woman to DM him that evening, instead of semi ghosting her;.....she figures your macho man speech was a facade and your still 100% Captain available

I can sum all these into one Patrice O neal quote. The G.O.A.T..

"her power is in your fear of something"

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Hey peeps.

Been with my gf for 6 years now and we have a son together.

Lately she's been in touch with a few guys, quite openly, "helping" them out with their mental issues, supporting them and so on.

Now one of them will be sending her some gifts from his country, Spain, and I clearly see this as a simp action.

It doesn't bother me at all since I am, and never have been, a jealous person. She's a grown woman and can do what she wants.

Been gaming her quite a bit these past few months and it's really working.

So... Me not being a jealous person - How do I approach her monkey branching with beta males in her virtual social circle?
We're in Norway and they are all in Spain. There is no chance she'll be able to physically mate with them, but there could be an emotional connection.

Thanks and cheers!

Jake's on you kuz.

I don't commit. More importantly, I don't commit to anything that has orbiters. Ex bf, guy friends, social media etc are deal breakers.