Are men bailing on dating?

[derby1]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

But i had a fair gut feeling these women were actually telling the truth. Men as a group are bailing on chivalry.

Then to top it off a woman on the T.V went and said the same thing lol, she craves to be took on an old school date, and men dont bother.

interesting

 

[redskinsfan92]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

But i had a fair gut feeling these women were actually telling the truth. Men as a group are bailing on chivalry.

Then to top it off a woman on the T.V went and said the same thing lol, she craves to be took on an old school date, and men dont bother.

interesting

What age are these women? Serious question.

"Anymore" suggests they are not in their early 20s any longer. That would explain the decline.

 

[derby1]

What age are these women? Serious question.

25-34, they have "value" this is why im wondering, and make no mistake i would have thought "yeah right" before.

but there seems some truth in what theyre saying

 

[redskinsfan92]

25-34, they have "value" this is why im wondering, and make no mistake i would have thought "yeah right" before.

but there seems some truth in what theyre saying

25 is where they would see a definite decline in male interest relative to the interest they commanded before age 25.

 

[Robert28]

Well when you’re a guy and some woman who’s 35 friendzones you, you kinda say fvck dates and chivalry. If they want to play games, let them play games with themselves or the deadbeats they are attracted to. I never ask women on dates anymore.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

But i had a fair gut feeling these women were actually telling the truth. Men as a group are bailing on chivalry.

Then to top it off a woman on the T.V went and said the same thing lol, she craves to be took on an old school date, and men dont bother.

interesting

Men seem to want to play switchfoot a lot and just chat rather than actually meet. I have heard that most guys don't actually want to meet in person, which helps me out because I do so usually within the first week or week and half of interacting with them.

 

[BadBoy89]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

The men women desire don’t need to take them out on dates. They are alpha men; dominant, strong, men that women are attracted to on a primal basic instinct type of level. The beta men they are attracted to on a transactional level; sex for resources.

The beta men are starting to the see light and the pendulum is starting to swing the other way. Other than babies, entertainment and sexual release, these women don’t offer anything. Especially if the girl is not a virgin, men are starting to figure out why they should spend their hard earned money on something the woman gave for free when her value was higher.

They say alpha f$cks, beta bucks. No exceptions.

Be strong men.

 

[MatureDJ]

The last few "dates" I have had (just going for drinks) were from online (not necessarily OLD, but online nonetheless); they all seemed to have gained weight from the time that their pictures were taken. This is quite demotivational - especially when I can EscortMax (i.e., in a non-wealthy country) and guarantee that Mister Happy will enjoy an encounter with a gal that he finds attractive.

Yes, I know - I need to start "spinning plates" outside of online.

 

[logicallefty]

What I have noticed is that men are dating but taking a lot less BS from women. Men I know and know about are getting quicker to spot potential toxic women and pull the trigger on the `//=NEXT=) gun at the first red flag. I'm also hearing the old classic from women "All men want is sex". I think men are getting less patient for women to put out cuz they realize all the money they spent in the past on "dates" that never lead to sex.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

Putting food in her mouth and putting ***** on lay away while she gets crushed by a Tyrone and Chad is retarded. When should step up theur slut shame game.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

But i had a fair gut feeling these women were actually telling the truth. Men as a group are bailing on chivalry.

God bless you manosphere, RP, mgtow, and black pill. Its working.

Then to top it off a woman on the T.V went and said the same thing lol, she craves to be took on an old school date, and men dont bother.

interesting

They simply don't deserve it. I do drinks or coffee. I prefer coffee as, its inexpensive, and I cannot get accused of false rapey. The abundance of dudes buying dinners and she's getting skull ****ed. It's simply retarded. Netflix and chill is free. Coffee is nearly free. I lost count of my d sucked and proteins doing the backstroke in her digestive tract and anus having not bought dinner. It's almost as anti seductive as a micro.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

The last few "dates" I have had (just going for drinks) were from online (not necessarily OLD, but online nonetheless); they all seemed to have gained weight from the time that their pictures were taken. This is quite demotivational - especially when I can EscortMax (i.e., in a non-wealthy country) and guarantee that Mister Happy will enjoy an encounter with a gal that he finds attractive.

Yes, I know - I need to start "spinning plates" outside of online.

ToddV bumped the zoom or Google meet vid call ftw play. I got catfish b4. School boy error. Never again. Also why i prefer pickup.

 

[isasda66]

Well why should a guy pay for what others got for free. Most guys are waking up now.

Differential pricing doesnt work. They set the bar low and a self-respecting guy wont pay more than that.

 

[Hal9000]

I've heard that from women as well. Men want to either talk and never even mention actually meeting or, if they do want to meet, it's Netflix and chill. That's it. I was surprised how many women were happy to have a guy just come right out and ask them to dinner. Now I'm older than most on here so I was dealing mainly with 40 something's so not sure if that's the case with younger women, but I'd bet so.

 

[SW15]

25-34, they have "value" this is why im wondering, and make no mistake i would have thought "yeah right" before.

but there seems some truth in what theyre saying

25-34 year olds will generate a solid amount of interest. Most of us guys would be impressed by the number of options that they have. A 30-34 childless woman with a BMI below 25 won't see that much of a diminishment in quantity of options compared to her life 5-7 years earlier.

25-29 year olds still were fielding a fair amount of in-person approaches prior to COVID. I think 30-34 would likely notice diminished in-person approaches, but they'd make up the difference and more on swipe apps and Instagram.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

Yes. Even still, they do well. They are often being too fussy.

What I have noticed is that men are dating but taking a lot less BS from women. Men I know and know about are getting quicker to spot potential toxic women and pull the trigger on the `//=NEXT=) gun at the first red flag. I'm also hearing the old classic from women "All men want is sex". I think men are getting less patient for women to put out cuz they realize all the money they spent in the past on "dates" that never lead to sex.

With website and later swipe app dating, many men were getting more dates, but these dates were mostly worthless dates (one date, no sex, no future in person interaction). Once you've been burned a lot with those types of dates, you're more cautious about your dates. You might even pull off of the swipe apps and focus on getting dates by in-person means, where you will get fewer dates but potentially dates that might be worthwhile.

 

[Mike32ct]

I've heard that from women as well. Men want to either talk and never even mention actually meeting or, if they do want to meet, it's Netflix and chill.

I think it is due to the guy's lack of good options online. He has women writing to him that he is just marginally attracted to. So he might make some polite chat with her out of boredom and for attention, but he's not excited about meeting her. If he does meet her, he just wants a quick bhang; not be seen with her in public; and not give the impression of wanting a relationship with her.

Sounds terrible, but just being honest here.

TLDR: She's fat and/or older than what he was hoping to pull.

 

[SW15]

TLDR: She's fat and/or older than what he was hoping to pull.

That's exactly why a guy wouldn't be down to meet a woman.

Women in their 20s/30s are typically dealing with thirstier men, so even with that going on, it will hardly make a dent in demand. Women in their 40s deal with less thirst. It might create a noticeable reduction in demand for them, but women in their 40s still have enough demand if they are childless or their kids are over 18.

 

[RickTheToad]

I've spoke to quite a few reasonably attractive women recently who dont know each other. They all seem congruent, that men don't offer them on dates anymore.

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

But i had a fair gut feeling these women were actually telling the truth. Men as a group are bailing on chivalry.

Then to top it off a woman on the T.V went and said the same thing lol, she craves to be took on an old school date, and men dont bother.

interesting

Dudes are still entertaining ladies who deserve to be entertained. AMS suggests the same.

 

[deBrito]

I Know our old red-pill quote was "what she really mean is, the men they desire don't take them on dates"

This, this is the way.

 

[Robert28]

Bc we are sick of wasting our time and money on them only to be rewarded with feminist style egoism pushback and avoiding attachment behavior at the end of the date. Why not do low investment and bypass beta bucks entirely?

I used to love going on traditional dates, esp bc 99% of the time I hit paydirt and the date was with a young, flirty, grateful woman. Now, no way.

Yep. I can plan some fun ass dates but why make the effort for someone who’s going to friendzone you after a few dates or run back to their ex after 2-3 months? Why should I put in effort for what Chad gets for free? Not playing that game anymore.

 

[dude99]

Well when you’re a guy and some woman who’s 35 friendzones you, you kinda say fvck dates and chivalry. If they want to play games, let them play games with themselves or the deadbeats they are attracted to. I never ask women on dates anymore.

Women have long ago stopped giving men something to date. When feminine submissive women return, when femenatzi behaviour is extinguished when more favorable laws for men return, then men can return to dating. Basically when women become datable again, men will date them. Until then the plate theory is all women deserve now a days.

I am not sure who coined the phrase but it is in the same vein as this --

Girl " why aren't you a nice guy? Why are you so mean to me?"
Guy " when nice guys get laid, ill be nice."