Chasing a girl Vs Persistence

[Dam44]

We all know chasing a girl is never helpful but I hear people say persist but don't chase a woman

What are the differences between the two? Or is it just a mantra people say to keep or justify guys chasing?

 

[Dash Riprock]

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.

 

[Dam44]

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.

This explains it a lot. I think what most people would call persisting with women then is chasing in the real sense.

 

[Dam44]

There is no such thing as persistence without getting psychical.

For me, confident persistence is when you guys are making out in your car and you're trying to escalate to sex but she doesn't trust you/have enough comfort yet.

Anything less than already having attraction and just have to deal with comfort = chasing.

There is no such thing as winning a woman over through persistence. But there is such thing as winning a woman 's trust - a woman who is already attracted to you but isn't yet comfortable.

Hmm, so when there's low or no attraction, it's chasing. This means what most people call persisting is just chasing a girl

 

[Georgepithyou]

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.

This is exactly why a man should never ever chase

 

[isasda66]

Chasing is you giving her attention without getting s3x.

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

I think there is a fine line where when she feeds the crumbs it becomes persistence. If the man continues pursuit by only replying "my place at xx:xx pm on xxxDay" and nothing else to all her crumbs. She'll stop on her own or actually come over.

While its easier to NEXT her, its funny how the tables turn after PiV.

 

[cola]

Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich

No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.

To be more exact, "Pursuing" is probabaly a better term than "Persisting" but semantics aside, I think (hope) you all get the point by my above definitions.

There really is no fine line as some have said. If she accepts your offers and gets physical with you, go for it. If she's flakey and won't even kiss you (at first) move on.

Quite simple.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich

No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.

I see your point, and it applies to many guys, but once a guy learns some game and DJ skills, he can have success punching above his weight class. We've all seen it, but the guy has the X factor.

You can't look like a gargoyle obviously, but attitude and confidence count huge for women, more so than for men.

 

[cola]

I see your point, and it applies to many guys, but once a guy learns some game and DJ skills, he can have success punching above his weight class. We've all seen it, but the guy has the X factor.

You can't look like a gargoyle obviously, but attitude and confidence count huge for women, more so than for men.

Yes, perhaps but he’ll still have to put in more effort than a guy with a clear higher sexual market value.

Is it worth a hour drive for a NY strip when the steakhouse across from your house has perfectly fine ribeyes? Either way your eating steak, ones just less time consuming.

 

[Dam44]

Chasing is you giving her attention without getting s3x.



I think there is a fine line where when she feeds the crumbs it becomes persistence. If the man continues pursuit by only replying "my place at xx:xx pm on xxxDay" and nothing else to all her crumbs. She'll stop on her own or actually come over.

While its easier to NEXT her, its funny how the tables turn after PiV.

Is s3x all that defines it especially at a younger age

 

[Dam44]

Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich

No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.

Ha, I think this is true. I've always wanted girls that are 'above' me. I'm like a 7 and I've mostly wanted the hotter girls. I don't just see the point in dating someone I'm not attracted to. Funny, but I don't like most girls that are interested in me. If I don't find them attractive enough, there's nothing I want with them

It's not like the 5s -7s are that easy too. There was one girl I was interested in, in my college. She's just above average but she be acting like 9 or 10. Inflated egos are so annoying

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

We all know chasing a girl is never helpful but I hear people say persist but don't chase a woman

What are the differences between the two? Or is it just a mantra people say to keep or justify guys chasing?

Its a fine line between pursuing and chasing like a simp. The key is calibration. The metric system by which i apply to the approach is no free attention. I want to smash. I approach. I lead. She follows or next. Repeat till d falls off or dead. Top form SMV 18-24. Not bulking season. Not pushing 30 off the carousel. RP call that wife lulz.

I don't chase. I replace. Compliance is king. There's no metric to measure but interest level. If she is not compliant, she's not feminine nor submissive. #nextSet

Checkmate!

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Date down.
if you are a 7 date 5s
If you are a 9 date 7s
Want 10s? Get rich

No need to chase or persist. Want hotter girls? Get hotter yourself.

I agree but, my d won't suck it self.

 

[Lookatu]

Personally and philosophically I don't think persistence works in the modern age as it once did.
Persistence and assertiveness was once seen as attractive by women pre 90's, but these days, can often be misconstrued or thought differently in the age of feminism and societal programming in todays world that is different than what once was.

Being persistent back then meant you had drive, balls, guts, commitment, assertiveness, ambition when it came to girls and they were turned on by those traits because it signaled to them that they knew what you wanted and were willing to pursue it like a man, which they knew also crossed over into various things in life. But in today's society, those same things can often be mistaken or understood as being creepy, stalking, thirsty, desperate, aggressive, too direct, etc.

These days, a man has to be sensitive and notice the IOI's and as others said, determine if there is high interest from the girls to proceed.
As many have said above, it boils down to awareness of your situation/dynamics/calibration. It's just more of an art form to dance around to gauge and get what you're seeking more so than before.

It used to be back in the day, that women purposely played hard to get but that didn't mean she didn't like you where as now, any form of low interest should pretty much mean moving on if you don't want to chase as there isn't really anything you can do by being persistent if the other person isn't willing to meet you halfway on things. As it's no longer the man choosing the women in today's society. My $.02

 

[Glassguy]

Chasing: Continuing to pursue a girl with low IL; she cancels dates, won't get physical with you, doesn't initiate contact, feeds you ocassional crumbs--and the man continues his pursuit.

Persisting: You're interested so you plan dates and she accepts or counters a different day/time, she shows high IL, she reaches out as much or more than you, she goes along with your date-pause-date plan. You continue to build it, have sex with her with no pushback, you grow the relationship slowly over time.

This.

As soon as you make an offer to get together, for whatever reason she doesnt make it work, you are chasing from then on.

 

[flowtheory]

Not too deep down every person knows intuitively when they are chasing or pursuing.

If you feel tired? Chasing. (Negative feeling) because she’s taking your energy without replenishment.
If there’s a back and forth with upward trajectory? Pursuing. (Positive feeling) because there is equal investment.

If you’re not receiving dividends from whatever pursuit in life, drop it immediately.

imagine giving $500 to a hot woman every month and she buys new clothes with it, but she uploads a new picture to Instagram for her followers, and also you, but anytime you ask for a date she is always too busy to hangout with you, because she’s out shopping when you’re free on the weekend, but she ardently accepts your $500 a month. But she will give you a response back with an emoji. That’s her stringing you along and you chasing her validation.
Men will chase because they need external validation to feel: x y or z, and they believe a woman’s validation is key to something. But the second you believe that? She has your balls.

View every word or text of your attention like money; that you are investing. And soon you will see how valuable your time and attention truly is. And if you’re just sinking your money in to a hole, drop it because it’s not building you. It’s just losing your time.
Be a Warren Buffet of your own life. Super investor!

 

[Glassguy]

Not too deep down every person knows intuitively when they are chasing or pursuing.

If you feel tired? Chasing. (Negative feeling) because she’s taking your energy without replenishment.
If there’s a back and forth with upward trajectory? Pursuing. (Positive feeling) because there is equal investment.

If you’re not receiving dividends from whatever pursuit in life, drop it immediately.

imagine giving $500 to a hot woman every month and she buys new clothes with it, but she uploads a new picture to Instagram for her followers, and also you, but anytime you ask for a date she is always too busy to hangout with you, because she’s out shopping when you’re free on the weekend, but she ardently accepts your $500 a month. But she will give you a response back with an emoji. That’s her stringing you along and you chasing her validation.
Men will chase because they need external validation to feel: x y or z, and they believe a woman’s validation is key to something. But the second you believe that? She has your balls.

View every word or text of your attention like money; that you are investing. And soon you will see how valuable your time and attention truly is. And if you’re just sinking your money in to a hole, drop it because it’s not building you. It’s just losing your time.
Be a Warren Buffet of your own life. Super investor!

Women will accept a one sided deal almost all of the time. That includes free attention from men they have no interest in.

When a deal is one sided (unless in our favor), its time to eject immediately.

 

[flowtheory]

Women will accept a one sided deal almost all of the time. That includes free attention from men they have no interest in.

When a deal is one sided (unless in our favor), its time to eject immediately.

Men have to know their value. Stage 1 of red pill is pulling out of the notion of placing women on a pedestal. Because the only way she is getting free attention is if the man put her on the pulpit like she’s as a golden as god.

I think this is most difficult aspect though, because it’s taking our social indoctrination and turning it on it’s head to now qualifying her. But realizing romance and all that isn’t as special as it was made out to be. Heavy.

 

[soulforge]

I have a question relating to my current situation..

The girls meets up, and plays with my c0ck and I have fingered her.. But when it comes to setting a date so we can fuk.. That isn't happening.

If a girl has no interest.. Why would she meet in private and let you finger that vagina haha?