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Jada Pinkett-Smith borne of maritual sex which was "non consentual"

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If the "normal" consent flow is an issue where we need to verbalize it or write it on a consent document, it probably means we are in the wrong relationship. Sex won't be the only thing they want to "hook" us or get us to "stumble" on.
By the time it's a relationship you've already had this talk once or it's otherwise clear that you agree on how to go about it. It's something you just need to agree on once. Written is taking it too far, that's just called trust issues.
This is interesting. So does a boner automatically say yes that they consent. Then flipping it around, since women can't get boners, if she gets really wet, is that also an indication that she's ok with sex because when women get wet, it's equivalent to men getting hard?
You've stirred up some interesting thoughts is all...
No. Getting wet or erected isn't always a voluntary action and can occur automatically from physical stimulation without psychological desire to have sex. It is generally a good indication, but consent it is not.
 

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By the time it's a relationship you've already had this talk once or it's otherwise clear that you agree on how to go about it. It's something you just need to agree on once. Written is taking it too far, that's just called trust issues.
It's not always "trust", it might be control issues. She might've recruited you to be her "provider".

No. Getting wet or erected isn't always a voluntary action and can occur automatically from physical stimulation without psychological desire to have sex. It is generally a good indication, but consent it is not.
If your lady keeps bringing a controlling and masculine persona to you, eventually you will get turned off. It's hard to get hard to that bullsh1t. And it is a good sign. Listen to your c0ck. Be aware of whose presence your energy diminishes around.
 

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If your wife pulls out your c0ck in your sleep and sucks on it until erection, you are going to press rape? What about if she wrestles your pants down and does the same? Rape?
No, but if I’m sick or not feeling it I’ll tell her to get the fvck off me. I think most of us have been in situations with our girlfriend when we really weren’t up to it. She doesn’t have a “right” to dvck on demand.
 

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No, but if I’m sick or not feeling it I’ll tell her to get the fvck off me. I think most of us have been in situations with our girlfriend when we really weren’t up to it. She doesn’t have a “right” to dvck on demand.
If she told you to get the fvck off of her, and your trying to get you some, and then you force it and somehow get it in, that would be a rape. It's the same if the shoe was on the other foot. She's trying to suck you off, and your feeling bad and you say "get the fvck off me", and she pulls a gun on you and says "your about to take this whether you want it or not", that would be rape.
 

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She got her baby and jetted.... It's a very normal position. Unless he's the one that broke the marriage.
I heard executives at a industry assoc. meeting speaking like that at my table. Buddy was so sad when the other guys told him that's all she wanted. Never forget the sadness on his face......we were all drinking back then, so maybe he looked sadder to me because of that, I don't know.
 

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this is like elizabeth taylor getting married all those times no such thing as bad publicity :)
 

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I heard executives at a industry assoc. meeting speaking like that at my table. Buddy was so sad when the other guys told him that's all she wanted. Never forget the sadness on his face......we were all drinking back then, so maybe he looked sadder to me because of that, I don't know.
LOL. So she wanted a baby, and she got a cash out bonus as a result.
 

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If a man ****s a woman when she says no, then it's non-consensual, period. IF she is raped or violated non-consensually, she should also leave him immediately. Any dishonor you tolerate is going to be repeated by a person who has no morals. If you don't leave then you don't have the right to complain about it later.

Marriage does not give a man the right to use his partner without consent. If you wouldn't tolerate being violated if the tables were turned then you're a hypocrite if you say that all sex in marriage is consensual.
 

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if cash is really what they're after, play the long game.

Stay married until he dies first, statistically. There's your committed life AND your payout.
Damn. That's why they can treat a man so horribly for years and deny sex for so long... Doing the job for the cash.
 

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If a man ****s a woman when she says no, then it's non-consensual, period. IF she is raped or violated non-consensually, she should also leave him immediately. Any dishonor you tolerate is going to be repeated by a person who has no morals. If you don't leave then you don't have the right to complain about it later.

Marriage does not give a man the right to use his partner without consent. If you wouldn't tolerate being violated if the tables were turned then you're a hypocrite if you say that all sex in marriage is consensual.
We never said anything like this in here, so you don't need to go defending anyone. You shouldn't have to force your wife to have sex. If you find that she goes a prolonged period while continuing to find excuses for not having sex with you ( say months at a time ), it means she does not LIKE you. If she does not LIKE you it would be wise to part ways.
 

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Damn. That's why they can treat a man so horribly for years and deny sex for so long... Doing the job for the cash.
wow, yes I guess. That thread last week reminded me of this.

Is it true that all wives and husbands end up hating or mistreating each other?
 
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