Jada Pinkett-Smith borne of maritual sex which was "non consentual"

[mrgoodstuff]

So Jada Pinkett Smith born of non consentual sex in marriage. I've had wives and gfs "non consentually" initiate sex and intimacy on me. I've initiated other times myself. Where do we draw the line?

 

[Lynx nkaf]

I don't understand this.

Number one: why is she telling her daughter she was a product of rape? why traumatise a child?

number two: why is she speaking ill will of her daughter's father?

number three: why is she speaking ill will of the dead?


I don't understand people who get married but then turn their partner down for sex. It would never be nonconsensual if you participated every time.

If one wasn't going to participate in sex any or all the time, why get married?

People don't communicate enough. Frequency of sex must be established right away, in any relationship.

Or don't start relationships that have sex in them.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I don't understand this.

Number one: why is she telling her daughter she was a product of rape? why traumatise a child?

number two: why is she speaking ill will of her daughter's father?

number three: why is she speaking ill will of the dead?


I don't understand people who get married but then turn their partner down for sex. It would never be nonconsensual if you participated every time.

If one wasn't going to participate in sex any or all the time, why get married?

People don't communicate enough. Frequency of sex must be established right away, in any relationship.

Or don't start relationships that have sex in them.

Just cause she said it is it true. Its her husband. And yes a husband can force it. But now and a days most husband are forced to not get any.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

Just cause she said it is it true. Its her husband. And yes a husband can force it. But now and a days most husband are forced to not get any.

I feel like Jada is selling out her family members, one by one, for profit.

No, I don't think this is true. This is clickbait fodder for the herd.

And did you get what I mean that if both spouses are willing participants, how can one force and the other one cry 'nonconsensual'?

If both aren't willing participants then a marriage is void.

If you're married, you're willing.

Bf and gf is more a gray area but there again, why are you there in that space with that person if you don't want to participate.

Sex is always implied, always available, if in a bf/gf relationship too.

I can't even think of a scenario where it can be nonconsensual in a couple, except maybe in a case where one person is handicapped or down syndrome or developmentally disadvantaged or underage or something.

Here's my point: There is no such thing as a completely asexual partnered relationship.

Even the selfidentified asexuals have to cuddle. Intimacy is always a given.



Maybe Jada, her Mom, Will need to read Awaken the Tiger by Peter Levine.

This multigenerational family has some trauma, but it may not be what they think its from.


Of course, their family is none of my business but its useful to take an example from celebrity world to formulate my own viewpoints on things, thanks

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I feel like Jada is selling out her family members, one by one, for profit.

No, I don't think this is true. This is clickbait fodder for the herd.

And did you get what I mean that if both spouses are willing participants, how can one force and the other one cry 'nonconsensual'?

If both aren't willing participants then a marriage is void.

If you're married, you're willing.

Bf and gf is more a gray area but there again, why are you there in that space with that person if you don't want to participate.

Sex is always implied, always available, if in a bf/gf relationship too.

I can't even think of a scenario where it can be nonconsensual in a couple, except maybe in a case where one person is handicapped or down syndrome or developmentally disadvantaged or underage or something.

Here's my point: There is no such thing as a completely asexual partnered relationship.

Even the selfidentified asexuals have to cuddle. Intimacy is always a given.



Maybe Jada, her Mom, Will need to read Awaken the Tiger by Peter Levine.

This multigenerational family has some trauma, but it may not be what they think its from.


Of course, their family is none of my business but its useful to take an example from celebrity world to formulate my own viewpoints on things, thanks

They throw out a bunch of tidbits go grab attention.

I feel like Jada is selling out her family members, one by one, for profit.

No, I don't think this is true. This is clickbait fodder for the herd.

And did you get what I mean that if both spouses are willing participants, how can one force and the other one cry 'nonconsensual'?

If both aren't willing participants then a marriage is void.

If you're married, you're willing.

Bf and gf is more a gray area but there again, why are you there in that space with that person if you don't want to participate.

Sex is always implied, always available, if in a bf/gf relationship too.

I can't even think of a scenario where it can be nonconsensual in a couple, except maybe in a case where one person is handicapped or down syndrome or developmentally disadvantaged or underage or something.

Here's my point: There is no such thing as a completely asexual partnered relationship.

Even the selfidentified asexuals have to cuddle. Intimacy is always a given.



Maybe Jada, her Mom, Will need to read Awaken the Tiger by Peter Levine.

This multigenerational family has some trauma, but it may not be what they think its from.


Of course, their family is none of my business but its useful to take an example from celebrity world to formulate my own viewpoints on things, thanks

If he was raping her why didn't she divorce him? They might be rough on the bedroom and that's how she preferred it. Nobody knows.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Just cause she said it is it true. Its her husband. And yes a husband can force it. But now and a days most husband are forced to not get any.

No, I don’t think a spouse has a right to force sex. The expectation should be there to have sex regularly but if one is not able to at that moment the other partner can’t make them.

 

[Lynx nkaf]

They throw out a bunch of tidbits go grab attention.
If he was raping her why didn't she divorce him? They might be rough on the bedroom and that's how she preferred it. Nobody knows.

that sentence " Nobody knows" In our family we say "you never know".

As in, you just can never tell what goes on between a couple. They have their own little island, their own little arrangement. Noone can come between the strongest couples.
Probably ended up weak together.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

No, I don’t think a spouse has a right to force sex. The expectation should be there to have sex regularly but if one is not able to at that moment the other partner can’t make them.

If your wife pulls out your c0ck in your sleep and sucks on it until erection, you are going to press rape? What about if she wrestles your pants down and does the same? Rape?

I didn't say a husband can or should force a non consenting wife. But a husband or a wife will "initiate" the act. It will be the spouses decision to allow further movement or to block it.

The feminist want it to be this statement of declaration at each level of progress, which is unnatural. IE: "i'm about to kiss you, is it okay?". "i'm about to put my hand under your bra, do i have consent?. "I'm about to unzip your pants, are you okay with that?"...

 

[Lynx nkaf]

No, I don’t think a spouse has a right to force sex. The expectation should be there to have sex regularly but if one is not able to at that moment the other partner can’t make them.

its expected to be available for your spouse. There's not supposed to be anyone more important. Yes, mental illness or criminal activity exist that would cause the other spouse to be hesitant but must still provide them with comfort and reconnection. This is nonnegotiable. Sorry this isn't PC.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

that sentence " Nobody knows" In our family we say "you never know".

As in, you just can never tell what goes on between a couple. They have their own little island, their own little arrangement. Noone can come between the strongest couples.
Probably ended up weak together.

"ended up weak together"? What's that mean?

 

[Lynx nkaf]

"ended up weak together"? What's that mean?

her mother and father; didn't they divorce?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

her mother and father; didn't they divorce?

I don't know the history.

 

[FairShake]

its expected to be available for your spouse. There's not supposed to be anyone more important. Yes, mental illness or criminal activity exist that would cause the other spouse to be hesitant but must still provide them with comfort and reconnection. This is nonnegotiable. Sorry this isn't PC.

What the hell is wrong with you dude?

 

[Lookatu]

What the hell is wrong with you dude?

the "dude" is a dudette...

 

[mrgoodstuff]

What the hell is wrong with you dude?

That "it's okay to lock a man out" of the pvssy is a female control viewpoint. No one can rape anyone, but you should be able to engage in sexual congress at a reasonable rate with your own spouse. If they don't then they just don't LIKE you. And if they don't LIKE you, why are you with them?

 

[Serenity]

I see it's time for my view of consent and communication.

The feminist want it to be this statement of declaration at each level of progress, which is unnatural. IE: "i'm about to kiss you, is it okay?". "i'm about to put my hand under your bra, do i have consent?. "I'm about to unzip your pants, are you okay with that?"...

I agree that this is tedious and will ruin the mood if it's there. It's really problematic that there are women out there who fear saying no to advances from a man, but this isn't the way. I like to make moves and I'm totally fine if they say no or otherwise stop me, I can respect that and I prefer that over fvcking a woman who doesn't really want to.

Getting consent doesn't mean every little action have to be verbally asked and approved. The way I go about it is to tell them to stop me if I'm doing something they don't want me to do to them. I make them aware of the option and by saying it they know I'll respect it, I'll want to get a confirmation on that and I count that as a sort of conditional consent. This goes mostly for the more shy girls who are unclear on non-verbal signals, if a woman is escalating about as much as me then her taking as much active part as yourself is as good as consent. So I just keep escalating until either we have full-blown sex or she tells me no, mostly it has been the first outcome.

If your wife pulls out your c0ck in your sleep and sucks on it until erection, you are going to press rape? What about if she wrestles your pants down and does the same? Rape?

Technically speaking that can be considered rape if the husband turns out not to approve of it. You can't consent when you're unconscious. This isn't a type of sexual act you should just go ahead and do. Talk about it beforehand and get consent to do it, would be wise with a rule such as "if I wake up and want you to stop, then stop". That's consent, it's not hard.

But a husband or a wife will "initiate" the act. It will be the spouses decision to allow further movement or to block it.

Yup, this is how most people expect it to work in a relationship/marriage. It doesn't hurt to have talked about it though, just to be clear and on the same page. I couldn't have lived with a relationship where verbal consent was required every single time and for every single action. Fortunately there's nothing wrong with agreeing to allow advances as long as neither person says no.

Don't try to get kinky with a feminist, keep them at a much longer distance than they ask for. They have screwed up and inflexible/nonfunctional views on consent, they don't define the truth about how consent works for anyone other than themselves. Most people aren't like that.

 

[CAPSLOCK BANDIT]

Watching the Smith family decline has been interesting.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I see it's time for my view of consent and communication.


I agree that this is tedious and will ruin the mood if it's there. It's really problematic that there are women out there who fear saying no to advances from a man, but this isn't the way. I like to make moves and I'm totally fine if they say no or otherwise stop me, I can respect that and I prefer that over fvcking a woman who doesn't really want to.

Getting consent doesn't mean every little action have to be verbally asked and approved. The way I go about it is to tell them to stop me if I'm doing something they don't want me to do to them. I make them aware of the option and by saying it they know I'll respect it, I'll want to get a confirmation on that and I count that as a sort of conditional consent. This goes mostly for the more shy girls who are unclear on non-verbal signals, if a woman is escalating about as much as me then her taking as much active part as yourself is as good as consent. So I just keep escalating until either we have full-blown sex or she tells me no, mostly it has been the first outcome.


Technically speaking that can be considered rape if the husband turns out not to approve of it. You can't consent when you're unconscious. This isn't a type of sexual act you should just go ahead and do. Talk about it beforehand and get consent to do it, would be wise with a rule such as "if I wake up and want you to stop, then stop". That's consent, it's not hard.


Yup, this is how most people expect it to work in a relationship/marriage. It doesn't hurt to have talked about it though, just to be clear and on the same page. I couldn't have lived with a relationship where verbal consent was required every single time and for every single action. Fortunately there's nothing wrong with agreeing to allow advances as long as neither person says no.

Don't try to get kinky with a feminist, keep them at a much longer distance than they ask for. They have screwed up and inflexible/nonfunctional views on consent, they don't define the truth about how consent works for anyone other than themselves. Most people aren't like that.

If the "normal" consent flow is an issue where we need to verbalize it or write it on a consent document, it probably means we are in the wrong relationship. Sex won't be the only thing they want to "hook" us or get us to "stumble" on.

 

[Lookatu]

Technically speaking that can be considered rape if the husband turns out not to approve of it.

This is interesting. So does a boner automatically say yes that they consent. Then flipping it around, since women can't get boners, if she gets really wet, is that also an indication that she's ok with sex because when women get wet, it's equivalent to men getting hard?
You've stirred up some interesting thoughts is all...

 

[Lynx nkaf]

If the "normal" consent flow is an issue where we need to verbalize it or write it on a consent document, it probably means we are in the wrong relationship. Sex won't be the only thing they want to "hook" us or get us to "stumble" on.

exactly. trust your gut and gtfo early in the relationship.