My view of dating is kind of dying or changing

[Blacksheep]

I've been talking and dating some women lately, some hit on me and even showed a high-interest level... The more I become better physically and emotionally it gots easier.

But I'm observing those dates, in general, it seems so dirty... Having sex is good for a moment pleasure, but I'm feeling disgusted with how things are going nowadays.

Tired of games, of gold diggers, of liars, committed women that tells that they are single until you find that out, crazy ones...

The fact is, the more I met some women out there and see how things are going, I'm getting sick of it. Not on a point to get married or settle down, cause I don't believe in that anymore. It seems better to be alone and choose carefully even casual dates and sex.

I just see how weird and dirt those things are, and it seems a waste of time. I also understand that it's a natural desire and I will never stop having this desire for sex, cause this is what it is.

Also, when I'm going towards my purposes... I felt energized. But some dates, I went off feeling a low level of energy after that. And of course, a few ones were good... but it's so few dates that I felt a good energy.

With friends, the same... Have some that when we go to hang out is such a great time, the share of ideas and it makes you energized. Also, there are some guys I used to hang out and used to felt drained after that.

Maybe some belief or fantasy is dying inside me, and a new understanding will come... but that's so weird.

 

[Blacksheep]

I know what you mean as far as just feeling drained and empty. I suddenly don't have the kind of free time to where I can afford to invest it in activities that make me feel that way more often than not. It's worse than golf lol

I moving to that too... And how do you deal with desires? Is that a long time improvement?

Cause I don't see masturbation or pornography any healthier than those things.

 

[Spaz]

Do some male only activities, like hunting, water skiing, white water rafting, camping, eco travelling (hiking, climbing, bird watching, etc).

Find something you could do on a weekly basis.

I myself am into weekend biking nowadays.

Somehow, there's always some chick that wants to hangout, women, they're everywhere where men wanna be alone.

Sometimes it's a fvcking nuisance.

 

[bat soup]

I think it's normal to become a bit jaded with age and experience. I've noticed myself that after getting burnt the first times, I don't fall in love anymore so easily. My emotions are not as strong as they were before, which is both good and bad. Also, I'm far less trusting of women not but unfortunately that seems to be necessary since they tend to lie almost continuously (especially about anything related to dating).

 

[Blacksheep]

low investment dating is the key. avoid online and just do short, east dates especially at first. I basically just invite people for a drink near my place. Prioritize male dominated activities or mixed activities you actually like to do.

That's interesting! I also like some low investment dates too... And also not date someone from another city. It gets too expensive.

 

[Blacksheep]

Do some male only activities, like hunting, water skiing, white water rafting, camping, eco travelling (hiking, climbing, bird watching, etc).

Find something you could do on a weekly basis.

I myself am into weekend biking nowadays.

Somehow, there's always some chick that wants to hangout, women, they're everywhere where men wanna be alone.

Sometimes it's a fvcking nuisance.

That's a good thing!

I have to found some activity like those you quoted. Basically on my free time I'm playing Dota 2 as I've been playing that for I think 6 years. It's something I like, but it's good to go out and have some activities like that.

I used to biking too until I sold mine... I should buy a new one. This is a great thing. You can enjoy a good view in nature and also is a great cardio exercise.

 

[Blacksheep]

I think it's normal to become a bit jaded with age and experience. I've noticed myself that after getting burnt the first times, I don't fall in love anymore so easily. My emotions are not as strong as they were before, which is both good and bad. Also, I'm far less trusting of women not but unfortunately that seems to be necessary since they tend to lie almost continuously (especially about anything related to dating).

I agree with you.

Sometimes I would like to commit into a relationship, but damn... I've heard so many lies. And some are weird ones and so covert.

I know in such way, men and women would need each other. But life showed me some truths that becomes really hard to believe that is still possible to build a good relationship were both help each other and can share good stuffs in life.

 

[Spaz]

That's a good thing!

I have to found some activity like those you quoted. Basically on my free time I'm playing Dota 2 as I've been playing that for I think 6 years. It's something I like, but it's good to go out and have some activities like that.

I used to biking too until I sold mine... I should buy a new one. This is a great thing. You can enjoy a good view in nature and also is a great cardio exercise.

My biking is more towards riding my kawasaki motorbike on unpaved roads on a hill with a group of men, then finding some exotic food along the way, enjoy the views, take a short rest at a secluded river...those kind of stuff.

It's exciting especially when there's plenty of male jokes going around.

I used to do this once a week, now it has slowed down to once a month, probably I'd find something else to do to keep the excitement going.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I've been talking and dating some women lately, some hit on me and even showed a high-interest level... The more I become better physically and emotionally it gots easier.

But I'm observing those dates, in general, it seems so dirty... Having sex is good for a moment pleasure, but I'm feeling disgusted with how things are going nowadays.

Tired of games, of gold diggers, of liars, committed women that tells that they are single until you find that out, crazy ones...

The fact is, the more I met some women out there and see how things are going, I'm getting sick of it. Not on a point to get married or settle down, cause I don't believe in that anymore. It seems better to be alone and choose carefully even casual dates and sex.

I just see how weird and dirt those things are, and it seems a waste of time. I also understand that it's a natural desire and I will never stop having this desire for sex, cause this is what it is.

Also, when I'm going towards my purposes... I felt energized. But some dates, I went off feeling a low level of energy after that. And of course, a few ones were good... but it's so few dates that I felt a good energy.

With friends, the same... Have some that when we go to hang out is such a great time, the share of ideas and it makes you energized. Also, there are some guys I used to hang out and used to felt drained after that.

Maybe some belief or fantasy is dying inside me, and a new understanding will come... but that's so weird.

Thats what happens with time, women get less pleasable to deal with and less able to bond while they increase their baggage; men on the other side get used to sex and that alone is no longer a motivation to tolerate sub optimal company and people they have nothing in common with.

Dont wanna sound too cinical but good healthy relations happen when the woman is still innocent enough and able to bond while the man is still "naive" and his brain still willing to put up with a certain degree of drama and work.

This happens when a girl before her mid 20s and a guy before his early 30s bond and grow togheter sharing most of high impact experiences togheter wheter its serious dating, having free emotional sex with each other and so on.

When the girl gets pumped&dumped from many chads while using betas for pleasures and the guy is used to see through the bullsh1t and play accordingly, they are no longer able to form a proper couple...even more when she is expiring and he needs peace more than validation.

 

[Murk]

Thats what happens with time, women get less pleasable to deal with and less able to bond while they increase their baggage; men on the other side get used to sex and that alone is no longer a motivation to tolerate sub optimal company and people they have nothing in common with.

Dont wanna sound too cinical but good healthy relations happen when the woman is still innocent enough and able to bond while the man is still "naive" and his brain still willing to put up with a certain degree of drama and work.

This happens when a girl before her mid 20s and a guy before his early 30s bond and grow togheter sharing most of high impact experiences togheter wheter its serious dating, having free emotional sex with each other and so on.

When the girl gets pumped&dumped from many chads while using betas for pleasures and the guy is used to see through the bullsh1t and play accordingly, they are no longer able to form a proper couple...even more when she is expiring and he needs peace more than validation.

Yeah pretty sad but true

 

[bat soup]

I'm starting to think that men and women want fundamentally different things from each other, so it's very hard to actually make things work in a way that both parties are satisfied. It's almost like all relationships are doomed to fail sooner or later and it's not realistic to expect otherwise.

I read something pretty interesting the other day about women actually finding it so easy to get casual sex that it wasn't necessary to even discuss it. Whereas for men it takes an enormous amount of time and effort. What women find difficult to get is commitment.

 

[Visionist]

Women can find committment from betas as easily as they can find casual sex from alphas. It's the alphas they actually want to commit to them that are the problem though.

An alpha doesn't commit.

 

[AttackFormation]

Women don't want commitment from them anymore anyway, why bother.

Do introverted women struggle more to find men than extroverted women like it is for us, or does the fact that they're still women make it too easy for their personality to matter?

 

[Lynx nkaf]

I know what you mean as far as just feeling drained and empty. I suddenly don't have the kind of free time to where I can afford to invest it in activities that make me feel that way more often than not. It's worse than golf lol

golf is fun if you walk the 18...give it 10 or 15 years, you may like it

 

[andreihaha]

I've been talking and dating some women lately, some hit on me and even showed a high-interest level... The more I become better physically and emotionally it gots easier.

But I'm observing those dates, in general, it seems so dirty... Having sex is good for a moment pleasure, but I'm feeling disgusted with how things are going nowadays.

Tired of games, of gold diggers, of liars, committed women that tells that they are single until you find that out, crazy ones...

The fact is, the more I met some women out there and see how things are going, I'm getting sick of it. Not on a point to get married or settle down, cause I don't believe in that anymore. It seems better to be alone and choose carefully even casual dates and sex.

I just see how weird and dirt those things are, and it seems a waste of time. I also understand that it's a natural desire and I will never stop having this desire for sex, cause this is what it is.

Also, when I'm going towards my purposes... I felt energized. But some dates, I went off feeling a low level of energy after that. And of course, a few ones were good... but it's so few dates that I felt a good energy.

With friends, the same... Have some that when we go to hang out is such a great time, the share of ideas and it makes you energized. Also, there are some guys I used to hang out and used to felt drained after that.

Maybe some belief or fantasy is dying inside me, and a new understanding will come... but that's so weird.

We're around the same age, yet you seem a lot more depressed about this than I am.
I have also found that meaningless flings are...well...meaningless.
Sexual satisfaction often gives you buyer's remore, as I feel like I am quite a different man before/after sex.

To me, finding a woman that I really enjoy spending time with after sex is much more rewarding than 100 one-night-stands.

Try to screen women better and go for the ones that you care about, not just those interested in you.
I also keep myself active, playing lots of sports, and I feel a lot more relaxed and overall happy.

 

[andreihaha]

I think it's normal to become a bit jaded with age and experience. I've noticed myself that after getting burnt the first times, I don't fall in love anymore so easily. My emotions are not as strong as they were before, which is both good and bad. Also, I'm far less trusting of women not but unfortunately that seems to be necessary since they tend to lie almost continuously (especially about anything related to dating).

I see this being a pretty popular thing.

I behave a lot differently than this tho.
I can still kinda fall in love easy. By that I mean I give 100% as soon as she appears interesting to me. Even if I have a meeting set with another woman the following day. I don't hold back because I got hurt before. The only thing that changed through time was the amount of bullsh1t I tolerate.

Maybe I'm a hopeless romantic, which sounds terrible in this day and age, but it somehow works for me. I am happy and that's what I care about.

 

[andreihaha]

Thats what happens with time, women get less pleasable to deal with and less able to bond while they increase their baggage; men on the other side get used to sex and that alone is no longer a motivation to tolerate sub optimal company and people they have nothing in common with.

Dont wanna sound too cinical but good healthy relations happen when the woman is still innocent enough and able to bond while the man is still "naive" and his brain still willing to put up with a certain degree of drama and work.

This happens when a girl before her mid 20s and a guy before his early 30s bond and grow togheter sharing most of high impact experiences togheter wheter its serious dating, having free emotional sex with each other and so on.

When the girl gets pumped&dumped from many chads while using betas for pleasures and the guy is used to see through the bullsh1t and play accordingly, they are no longer able to form a proper couple...even more when she is expiring and he needs peace more than validation.

Man, I'm not looking forward to getting older and meeting 30+ y.o. women.
God, I hope some girl manages to get me out of the market by then.

 

[AttackFormation]

Man, I'm not looking forward to getting older and meeting 30+ y.o. women.
God, I hope some girl manages to get me out of the market by then.

My fwb is 29 and she is emptied out, spent, jaded and has haunting damage. I think she knows herself that she is "done". However that said, just counting their age is not enough at all. She can be spent early, or unspoiled until much later - it depends on who she is. Who she is is what you really have to go by as causative, age is just the correlation/odds.

If you want a wife... Then theres a wall for you as a man too. Because youll be dependent on having women around you who are both unspoiled enough to be wifes, and who Still havent been snatched up. They didn't mention this fine print when they sold you the "red pill life".

 

[andreihaha]

My fwb is 29 and she is emptied out, spent, jaded and has haunting damage. I think she knows herself that she is "done". However that said, just counting their age is not enough at all. She can be spent early, or unspoiled until much later - it depends on who she is. Who she is is what you really have to go by as causative, age is just the correlation/odds.

If you want a wife... Then theres a wall for you as a man too. Because youll be dependent on having women around you who are both unspoiled enough to be wifes, and who Still havent been snatched up. They didn't mention this fine print when they sold you the "red pill life".

God bless you!
From what I remembered, you were a smart and balanced guy. What the fk happened, man?
Go get some fresh air, man, you're not ok mentally, throwing some coloured pills insults around and stuff.
Those pills don't exist, it's just a matter of rationalization and hard work. Snap out of that depression. You're better than this.
Life is great.

 

[AttackFormation]

God bless you!
From what I remembered, you were a smart and balanced guy. What the fk happened, man?
Go get some fresh air, man, you're not ok mentally, throwing some coloured pills insults around and stuff.
Those pills don't exist, it's just a matter of rationalization and hard work. Snap out of that depression. You're better than this.
Life is great.

No insult from me bro. Thanks for the encouraging words.