Why be with men?

[Scars]

Do you have any anecdotes of this contradiction off the top of your head? it's always interesting to read that kind of stuff.

I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?

 

[AttackFormation]

I really don't know but a lot of the purely vaginal stimulated girls I knew were also p*** addicts

P-what addicts?

 

[Bible_Belt]

P-what addicts?

Oooh, pain addict. Kinky.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So women fantasize about a strong, masculine leader who is unapologetic about his sexuality - and what he does, and more specifically what he wants to do is to touch their cl1t in some way, rather than fvck them vaginally? Or is it a combination? What is it? Is it that touching their cl1t can be a fantasy for them because it makes them feel like the man owns their body, and this is what the man is supposed to find arousing too? I want to know exactly what it is and how it is supposed to add up.

It’s dominating them. That’s why women search up porn that shows violence against women (e.g. keywords “rape”, “gangbang”, “forced”, etc.) more often than men do. You can find the Pornhub infographs online lol

 

[AttackFormation]

It’s dominating them. That’s why women search up porn that shows violence against women (e.g. keywords “rape”, “gangbang”, “forced”, etc.) more often than men do. You can find the Pornhub infographs online lol

So like Scars you think the real culprit behind the orgasm gap is not a lack of cl1toral stimulation like the video woman does, but a lack of dominant/aggressive masculinity in vaginal sex?

Do you think women fantasize about dominant, aggressive, masculine men stimulating them cl1torally? Do you think women want the men they desire to fantasize about stimulating women cl1torally?

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Understood. I'm not downplaying the problem. I'm just saying that women with that problem won't necessarily give up on men because of it. They probably still get some pleasure out of sex, just not what they want.

Or they are the "gambler in a losing streak" who keeps playing hoping their luck will turn around.

Not just that, but some of them just like the raunchiness of it. The feeling of getting ****ed lol. Just bc they don’t orgasm doesn’t mean they don’t enjoy the feeling of “getting done” by a man lol

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?

Pook talked about this. It’s because they want all those sweet, caring, sensitive qualities but in a man who still has strength like the bad boy does. Just because they want you to bring them chocolate every once in a while doesn’t mean they want you to be a doormat. Just because they want you to treat them well doesn’t mean they don’t you to dominate them i.e. show them your strength. Just because they want to see your sensitive side doesn’t mean wuss. Do things out of strength, always. That’s the secret of the douchebag.

Or as it’s written in Pook’s posts/book—The Secret of the Jerk.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

That is why I always say if you spend time learning to be good at sex you will never have to worry about not having it available...they will seek you out.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

So like Scars you think the real culprit behind the orgasm gap is not a lack of cl1toral stimulation like the video woman does, but a lack of dominant/aggressive masculinity in vaginal sex?

You have to understand here that when it comes to topics like these that demonstrate sexual dimorphism like this, women are never going to be direct. They’re not going to say that they like to dominated, they’re going to say that they men need to stimulate the **** more; they’re not going to say they want to be pounded hard, they’re going to say that men need to learn where the g-spot is; they’re not gonna say they they want to be spanked or get their hair pulled without asking, they’re going to say they want men to take initiative more.

When the woman in the video (not that I’ve watched it either lol but I already know just based off of how women are) says that men need to stimulate the **** more, all that means is that she wants to feel more pleasure and sensation. This can be done by say, directly stimulating the ****, or by simply grabbing/groping her more.

What I mean is, she doesn’t just want you to just bang her missionary while you put your thumb on her **** and move it around in circles like that; she wants you to pound her spooning while you have one arm wrapped around her neck like she can’t escape, with the hand (on that same arm) grabbing a tit, while your other hand plays with her ****. Bonus points for whispering dirty **** in her ear. It’ll look like this:



This is dominating her and making her feel all sorts of sensations. The other way is bland. They both stimulate her ****, but one is better than the other. They just want to feel more sensations; orgasms are just an aspect of feeling more.

Do you think women fantasize about dominant, aggressive, masculine men stimulating them cl1torally? Do you think women want the men they desire to fantasize about stimulating women cl1torally?

It’s not about the **** so much as it is being ‘taken’:



It’s not that they fantasize being ****orally stimulated, it’s that they fantasize about being dominated and overpowered, so to speak. That doesn’t mean you go out and rape a woman, but if you know she likes you and you’re both about have sex, she wants to feel your strength. The **** is just one way of doing so because it’s forcing her body to orgasm ‘against her will’ (even though she clearly loves it). It’s hard to explain, really. But again, it’s not so much about being ****orally stimulated as it is being dominated/‘taken’ and made to feel just a lot more things in general.

 

[lamath]

Women experience three problems: Most don't orgasm vaginally and so suffer an orgasm gap with men, they stop wanting sex with their husbands in long term relationships, and they are oppressed in intimate relations with men.

So why are they with men at all? Instead they can have sex with each other, stop wanting sex with each other mutually, and form families with each other and sperm donors instead of men. What is it that makes women be with men at all, when the association only seems to be problematic?

The catalyst for this thread was watching a video on the orgasm gap between men and women in sex, particularly in casual sex. It made me question what the point of being with women is when every step of the way before (all the work and sacrifice you have to put in to draw blood out of rocks), during (she's just putting up with vaginal sex) and after sex (boredom, stress, depression, loneliness and frustration in the relationship that'll be taken out on you, and a dead bedroom) with them is so problematic. It also made me question why then women keep having vaginal sex and hooking up if they are just enduring it.

Here's the specific video:

I did not watch all of this but i can tell you its bs
She is mostly discounting biology in this, ridiculous.......

Its all about evolutive behavioral biology sex as many purpose they are mostly deep down about better reproduction success.
Its is used as a mate retention tool it can also be use as a way to hide pregnancy from infidelity.


Many more reason , we do things on a much more instinctively level than we would like to think.

Sex and the Female Agenda

Most female mammals are anything but subtle when it comes to telling males it's time for sex. Not humans. For good evolutionary reasons, women have found it's much better to keep men in the dark.

www.discovermagazine.com

Here is a video about humans reproductive behaviors

Its good af

 

[lamath]

I've noticed that woman who do the most slvt-shaming are often times huge slvts themselves. It's as if they feel guilty about their past, so they tear down other women who do the exact same behavior they do. They'll preach all day about how all girls are trashy, cheating hos, and how she "is different", but she's not. She is literally just describing herself. I actually get excited when I see a woman doing this, because I know it's an easy lay. All you gotta do is say "Yeah baby, I know you ain't like those other girls.." while at the same time you're slipping your hands down her pants, and she has no problem with it. Once again, actions not words.

I'd say the most golden example though, is the one where women say they "want a good guy" and then end up hooking up with the bad boy. Women will say they want a guy who loves them unconditionally, showers them with affection, buys them candies and stuffed bears, surprises them with chocolates, loyal to them, yada yada.. but then always end up with guys who treat them like trash. Why is that?

Very good stuff there.

The insult people use Slut Shaming is a good example are the insult they usually know would work on them.

They usually shame with what they think would be shaming to them... this can tell you on how some people think.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Half of the women I had sex with never came yet came for more...ok guess you got what I meant.

Climax is the necessary part for a man to appreciate an intercourse cause thats litteraly 90% of the point and if we dont achieve it we are worse than before while for women its not that.

They have so much mind and feelings in sex that climaxing is the bonus but not the main part, even the fact of having a man inside them and being really close to each other is pleasure fo them.

Some women also love to be manhandled which is something I do really well and that push them to come back when they dont come.

 

[Roober]

A man needs balance with the way he treats a/his woman. He must invoke the feelings of an alternate state of mind, or provide the feelings of someone she is not. In no particular order, a man should make a woman feel like a...

-Daughter
-Lady
-*****

Significant imbalance in any of these three will result disrespect or disgust

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You have to understand here that when it comes to topics like these that demonstrate sexual dimorphism like this, women are never going to be direct. They’re not going to say that they like to dominated, they’re going to say that they men need to stimulate the **** more; they’re not going to say they want to be pounded hard, they’re going to say that men need to learn where the g-spot is; they’re not gonna say they they want to be spanked or get their hair pulled without asking, they’re going to say they want men to take initiative more.

When the woman in the video (not that I’ve watched it either lol but I already know just based off of how women are) says that men need to stimulate the **** more, all that means is that she wants to feel more pleasure and sensation. This can be done by say, directly stimulating the ****, or by simply grabbing/groping her more.

What I mean is, she doesn’t just want you to just bang her missionary while you put your thumb on her **** and move it around in circles like that; she wants you to pound her spooning while you have one arm wrapped around her neck like she can’t escape, with the hand (on that same arm) grabbing a tit, while your other hand plays with her ****. Bonus points for whispering dirty **** in her ear. It’ll look like this:

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This is dominating her and making her feel all sorts of sensations. The other way is bland. They both stimulate her ****, but one is better than the other. They just want to feel more sensations; orgasms are just an aspect of feeling more.


It’s not about the **** so much as it is being ‘taken’:

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It’s not that they fantasize being ****orally stimulated, it’s that they fantasize about being dominated and overpowered, so to speak. That doesn’t mean you go out and rape a woman, but if you know she likes you and you’re both about have sex, she wants to feel your strength. The **** is just one way of doing so because it’s forcing her body to orgasm ‘against her will’ (even though she clearly loves it). It’s hard to explain, really. But again, it’s not so much about being ****orally stimulated as it is being dominated/‘taken’ and made to feel just a lot more things in general.

Thats me

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Understood. I'm not downplaying the problem. I'm just saying that women with that problem won't necessarily give up on men because of it. They probably still get some pleasure out of sex, just not what they want.

Or they are the "gambler in a losing streak" who keeps playing hoping their luck will turn around.

Like men do on effed up women.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

My wife orgasms vaginally. She doesn't stimulate with the hand. She gets on top and takes it home. Ive only been with1 girl who could not orgasm vaginally and needed a toy to do it. I think the numbers are skewed and you cant trust these polls...
Worst secs actually. Not even fun.

She's not angling her vag to rub her **** on your c0ck?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Maybe she is but its not the only position she gets off. Its just her favorite.
Her **** is low towards her opening. Some girls have a different distance so they might require different angles.

The telling thing is when i was dating the above said girl that could not *** by penetration alone.
I over heard her say to her cousin in a rare moment of spilling the beans that the guy that gave her the penetration orgasm could put a ring on it.
One of my RP moments.
This girl ended up being toxic and it wasnt a LTR material.

They want penetration orgasms.

If they are really into you they can orgasm without the ****. I knew one who would orgasm anally and had the tell tell strong pulses every few seconds in the vag and azz when she was cumming. But most women come from direct or indirect ( c0ck rubbing it ) **** contact.

 

[lamath]

She's not angling her vag to rub her **** on your c0ck?

Last one i was seeing was doing this, better than the other way for sure.

 

[zekko]

So why are they with men at all? Instead they can have sex with each other, stop wanting sex with each other mutually, and form families with each other and sperm donors instead of men. What is it that makes women be with men at all, when the association only seems to be problematic?

You have to be careful not to buy too much into anything when it comes to gender relations, IMO. I find myself reacting similarly to a lot of PUA/red pill stuff, I start thinking "Well, then why would a woman ever even be attracted to a man?".

First off, the ****oris (and this is a fairly recent discovery) is a lot larger than the outer part. It actually extends inward and around the vaginal walls. So during intercourse, it gets stretched and stimulated. One reason why a woman liked to feel "filled" by a penis, I'd guess.

Secondly, the entire reason for sex in the first place is reproduction. That's why humans are driven to have sex, and for that to happen the male has to be present. Two women having sex together does nothing to ensure survival of the species. Obviously sex is pleasurable to a woman, or she wouldn't have the parts. In older times, some men thought the woman's pleasure was irrelevant to the procedure, because she could simply be taken by force. But the fact is women have sexual desires also.

Third, I would ask what could another woman do to give a woman an orgasm that a man cannot? They might be more familiar with the plumbing, but that's about it. This whole thing smacks of the current gender blending culture, don't buy into it.