BLM, Racism, riots, entitlement's etc

[Who Dares Win]

Let me play the prophet here, this is what will happen in the future.

Police officers all, whites especially will no longer uphold the law when the suspect or the obvious offender is a black man...too risky to do it and they all need a salary to feed their family.

People ALL (both whites and blacks) will get what is working and will become even more paranoid while dealing with black people.

There will be a mgtow type reaction where people will actively avoid those who can be "right" even when they are wrong...and guess who will get the most damaged both personally and professionally out of it?

 

[corrector]

Let me play the prophet here, this is what will happen in the future.

Police officers all, whites especially will no longer uphold the law when the suspect or the obvious offender is a black man...too risky to do it and they all need a salary to feed their family.

People ALL (both whites and blacks) will get what is working and will become even more paranoid while dealing with black people.

There will be a mgtow type reaction where people will actively avoid those who can be "right" even when they are wrong...and guess who will get the most damaged both personally and professionally out of it?

You mean like the officers who resigned because a bad cop pushed an old white man to the ground where he suffered a concussion?

We don't need officers like that. Officers have to operate at a better standard than the public, not a worst standard.

 

[Alvafe]

Nooo, slavery is bad, that's about the only thing all the different sides agree on.
From what I can tell, the people behind this want us all to live under a Marxist socialist regime, where we are told what to think and how we split our money up. That's the end goal, the USSA.


With all these "forced vacations" due to Covid, I wonder if we're creating a very lazy generation of people. A large group who are thinking "Hey, we don't have to work, we can just stay home and collect a check from the government". I heard a survey the other day, it was about all the people who have been working at home, it said something like only 17% wanted to return to the office at the end of this, everyone else wants to continue to stay home and work from home.

But yeah, hard workers get slammed for their privilege and for contributing to the "racist system". Successful black men have been ostracized for being "too white", black police officers have been called traitors to their race, and that they are "no longer black, they're blue". The people behind these demonstrations don't want you to work, they want you home collecting a government check where you are completely dependent on them, so they can control you, and use you to put them and keep them in power.

you mean overt slavery, a marxism socialist regime is a slavery in some way, with from history alone failed, every time they push this, it eventually failed.


for the lazy ones just see the moaning start when things start to cost too much and they luxury start to disapear.

from where I live i'm already hearing from people, its not only hard to sell things, but the what is sold is starting to have his price raised, all products are starting to disapear since there is no production and ther eis still some demand, you will see some civil war because of this soon

 

[Kotaix]

Again, you are not making any sense here at all. We are talking about police violence against Blacks (and others). What agency did George Floyd have to lift himself out of the chockhold other than saying "He cant breathe"? Are you saying Geroge Floyd, Breonna Taylor, Elijah Mccain could have done something else? What did they do? Breonna Taylor had a job at the hospital as a frontline worker. Is this how your country rewards people who treat people who are sick with Covid19? Are the police going to kill off more Black hospital workers so they won't save any more lives? What point are you trying to make again about someone else's fault? Would there be more of an outrage of a White doctor was killed by the police by a Black officer and the officer never got charged? Are you saying that all police brutality victims are unemployed and collecting welfare and good hard working Black people never get treated badly by police? What is your point?



You don't understand systematic racism if you keep looking at the exception rather than the rule.

There is little to no outrage when a white person is killed by the cops. There was a case in July 2018 where a white guy called Timothy Coffman died under the exact same circumstances as george floyd. You never heard about it and no one cares.

More unarmed white people were killed by the police in 2019 than were unarmed black people. You never heard about it, and no one cares.

How many unarmed blacks were killed in 2017 and 2018? Where was the worldwide outrage then? How many unarmed blacks were killed by police in the years of Obama's presidency? Where was the outrage then?

It's only outrageous when it's an election year and the democrats need to remind blacks of how victimized they are and can use the deaths of these people to make empty promises about how they're going to solve the problem.

You don't understand the concept of systemic. MLK fought and won to get rid of real systemic racism, real segregation. There are no racist rules anymore, there are only racist people. The police are not racist, there are only specific departments in specific cities that might be racist.

You are obsessed with race, it's no wonder you can't see anything else.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Looks like the US Federal government is priming for its test run to take over American cities. Cause you know, gotta round up all those scary black and brown people.

Martial Law sounds fun!

 

[Spaz]

Looks like the US Federal government is priming for its test run to take over American cities. Cause you know, gotta round up all those scary black and brown people.

Martial Law sounds fun!

Calm down Brollin.

Nothing big has ever been accomplished without the beginning small steps, nothing great has ever been achieved without the determination of the first few believers - remember that.

Focus on what's important for your community.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You mean like the officers who resigned because a bad cop pushed an old white man to the ground where he suffered a concussion?

We don't need officers like that. Officers have to operate at a better standard than the public, not a worst standard.

How does a single episode proves a rule or a trend?

Geez is like talking to women where you tell em that eating junk food makes you fat and they answer that their friend brenda eats lotta mc donald and she is thin.

Emotion, emotions and again emotions...you are one of those smarty pants that base his opinion about open borders on a single picture of a syrian kid died on a turkish beach.

Hey you know what, once in kensington I got a black guy asking me some coins to get the newspaper, he only had banknotes and needed some change cause the machine was coins only, I guess that you as a black guy never have the current amount of coins needed to buy the newspaper and ask people for change right, thats the way to evaluate facts?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Calm down Brollin.

Nothing big has ever been accomplished without the beginning small steps, nothing great has ever been achieved without the determination of the first few believers - remember that.

Focus on what's important for your community.

Are you saying a Federal militarized police occupation of cities should cause no concern?

 

[corrector]

There is little to no outrage when a white person is killed by the cops. There was a case in July 2018 where a white guy called Timothy Coffman died under the exact same circumstances as george floyd. You never heard about it and no one cares.

More unarmed white people were killed by the police in 2019 than were unarmed black people. You never heard about it, and no one cares.

How many unarmed blacks were killed in 2017 and 2018? Where was the worldwide outrage then? How many unarmed blacks were killed by police in the years of Obama's presidency? Where was the outrage then?

It's only outrageous when it's an election year and the democrats need to remind blacks of how victimized they are and can use the deaths of these people to make empty promises about how they're going to solve the problem.

You don't understand the concept of systemic. MLK fought and won to get rid of real systemic racism, real segregation. There are no racist rules anymore, there are only racist people. The police are not racist, there are only specific departments in specific cities that might be racist.

You are obsessed with race, it's no wonder you can't see anything else.

Read reply to @zekko #432 .

Most issues you've raised here are covered on that post. If I leave an academic type of post then I expect it to be read before this discussion can advance forward.

You are making references to White people killed by police. You again are countering an argument that I have never made in the first place. I never said police brutality is okay if it's not a Black person. I'm saying its wrong when only Black cops are immediately punished for brutality against White people. Don't you think that's wrong too? Name one Black cop who wasn't punished for killing a White civilian. Is our only expectation of quick and immediate accountability, without needing any police reform, is if it's a Black officer, or a non-White officer (occasionally used as a scapegoat)?

There has also been scale-backs since the civil rights movement. Supreme Court struck down laws and you've got voter suppression cropping up again. We have yet to see if people have access to the polls who intend to vote Ds. The current president would roll everything back to the 50s if he could and we've definitely seen pushbacks in various areas, such as defunding Black business loans, or banks refusing to give out covid loan money out to Black businesses despite they would have made a profit if they did. You just sound very painfully ignorant of the current issues that are going on. But I have a feeling that people have a certain narrative they want to believe and are refusing to look at evidence.

I'm not just talking about BLM, you've got Amnesty International, Democracy Now, other news programs that are dedicated to truthful reporting. I'm going to start referring to other type of justice organizations and distance myself from BLM in these discussions because this is creating too much controversy and confusion. But everyone throwing the baby with the bathwater because of key-words like Marxism / Communism, but it doesn't mean it didn't raise valid points.

 

[EyeBRollin]

It should cause infinitely L E S S concern to honest, peaceful, patriotic American citizens...than the violent radical Marxist mobs currently dominating the streets of DemonKKKrap-run cities, which you obviously prefer.

The only ones who should be scared are Anquifa, and their BLM biitches.

You think Federal paramilitary occupation of cities is.... American?

 

[EyeBRollin]

So, if the precedent set by the Father of Our Country represents what's American, then, Hell YES! In fact, I would be in favor of sending elite military units of our standing armed forces in to mop up this mess, and I'd happily be re-activated, for the honor of performing my patriotic duty!

So you’d be happy to join “elite military units” in taking up arms against your fellow citizens?

 

[EyeBRollin]

Domestic Terrorists aren't my "fellow citizens." Yes. Happily.

....so you consider people exercising their First Amendment right to protest.. not citizens.. but terrorists?

 

[Who Dares Win]

So you’d be happy to join “elite military units” in taking up arms against your fellow citizens?

Well in Europe there is eurogendfor for this purpose so if polish people rebel you send german troops, if germans rebel you send french and if french rebel you send italians and so on.

....so you consider people exercising their First Amendment right to protest.. not citizens.. but terrorists?

Are you gonna ask such question also about the second one or in that case the constitution needs to be reviewd?

 

[corrector]

How does a single episode proves a rule or a trend?

What do you want me to do, post a whole bunch of videos? At least I'm doing something more than talking out of my a$$ all the time like you are.

 

[zekko]

Looks like the US Federal government is priming for its test run to take over American cities. Cause you know, gotta round up all those scary black and brown people.

The Feds are there to protect Federal property - Federal buildings, monuments, etc., as they are well within their rights to do.
If the mayors running these cities would protect property in their own cities, there would be no need for the Feds to come in.
But the mayors want the chaos and destruction, because it adds more money to their re-election campaigns.

 

[Who Dares Win]

What do you want me to do, post a whole bunch of videos? At least I'm doing something more than talking out of my a$$ all the time like you are.

I would like you to think about facts and data rather than episodes, bonus point if you keep your emotions in check and dont throw temper tantrums...this is not seattle.

Even if you post a whole bunch of videos it means nothing, Im sure someone can provide as much if not more about hitlers youth being nice little kid playing football in the grass fields yet as we know it was not that case.

 

[corrector]

The Feds are there to protect Federal property - Federal buildings, monuments, etc., as they are well within their rights to do.
If the mayors running these cities would protect property in their own cities, there would be no need for the Feds to come in.
But the mayors want the chaos and destruction, because it adds more money to their re-election campaigns.

They dont do that when it was Ted Bundy and white right wing protesters doing it. Or the Michigan building earlier this year.

 

[zekko]

Here, @corrector, you might like this one. This guy tells the story of the town of Camden, NJ, which abolished their city police department back in 2012. Camden had a crime problem and corruption in the police department. They replaced the city police department with a county police department. They did this to get around the police unions (a big factor in making it difficult to get rid of bad cops). They rehired all the good cops, and hired more with more strict standards. Their county police department ended up being twice the size of the city police department.

The police chief put the emphasis on being a guardian as opposed to a warrior, cops introduced themselves to people in the neighborhood, and worked ice cream trucks giving away ice cream to the local kids. This way they got to know the people in the community, the people in the community got to know them, and they could move forward together.

Can American Airlines hire a delusional pilot that goes kamikaze, resulting in hundreds of deaths and not take responsibility?

In a case like that, people will sue American Airlines and go after the people running it. They're not going to go up to one of their janitors and scream in his face while pelting him with bricks. Even the other pilots are not going to be blamed. They, like most cops, are just trying to do their job and support their family.

 

[Who Dares Win]

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

^That^ is the complete text of the First Amendment of the U.S. Constitution.

Let's rank the elements in order:

1) Religion
2) Communication("speech")
3) Publication("press")
4) P E A C E F U L assembly

If we assume the First Amendment is the most important amendment of the Bill of Rights, because it appears first, then we must likewise assume that the right to petition is the least important element of that amendment, because it appears last. The right to petition is, also, the only right that comes with a condition, and the condition is that petitioners must be "PEACEABLY" assembled.

Petition
verb
"make or present a formal request to (an authority) with respect to a particular cause."

I defy you to identify a Constitutional Right to "Protest," particularly as YOU define it, anywhere in the U.S. Constitution...much less a right to riot, to injure bystanders, to burn, loot, obstruct the conduct of commerce or travel, or any of the other abhorrent behaviors you lunatics are covering under the imaginary "right to protest."

I'm not your daddy(as far as I know), and your illiteracy isn't my fault, but we're all suffering for it, just the same.

They love the costitution so much only when they think it gets them a free pass for anti-social behaviour while when it comes of property protection or guns then it needs to be "reviewed".

Even their love for the first amendment disappears anytime there is a chance to silence someone who disagree with political correctness cult.

 

[3agle 3yes]

You are making references to White people killed by police. You again are countering an argument that I have never made in the first place. I never said police brutality is okay if it's not a Black person. I'm saying its wrong when only Black cops are immediately punished for brutality against White people. Don't you think that's wrong too? Name one Black cop who wasn't punished for killing a White civilian.

Maybe I missed it, but where’s the evidence that black cops get punished for murdering white people? A better question would be can the average person name one unarmed white person killed by police, despite the fact there are more of them as opposed to any other race?

I also sometimes forget that there are even black police officers, seems like the MSM and BLM have certainly forgotten...anyone heard of David Dorn?

There has also been scale-backs since the civil rights movement. Supreme Court struck down laws and you've got voter suppression cropping up again. We have yet to see if people have access to the polls who intend to vote Ds. The current president would roll everything back to the 50s if he could and we've definitely seen pushbacks in various areas, such as defunding Black business loans, or banks refusing to give out covid loan money out to Black businesses despite they would have made a profit if they did.

Again, maybe I missed this, but where’s the evidence?

It’s worth noting that just because there are unarmed killings by police doesn’t mean it wasn’t justified. But in a country with a population in the hundred millions, a total of unarmed police killings that’s under 50 (and is lowering year by year in the current trend) isn’t something worth fussing too much about.

I’ve heard percentage-wise blacks are over represented in unarmed police killings, but police killings are linked to police encounters and police encounters are linked to crimes...you do the math.

Homicides against black people outnumber those in the white and Hispanic communities combined...THIS is what BLM should be focusing on.