Unable To Use Tinder Unless I Agree With BLM Movement!

[zekko]

Does that tell you a system like that can really be reformed or it's so rotten to the core that it has to be dismantled completely and there needs to be a new social contract because the legitimacy of policing, as we know it today, is shot.

There is strong support for police reform right now in the US, so I do believe a lot will be accomplished. But there is no way to completely rid ourselves of bad incidents like some of the ones you posted. We can hope to improve them. Getting rid of the cops is not the answer (IMO). Even now the witch hunts going on against police are making cops more hesitant to answer calls for help, and making them less proactive when they do. This situation is only going to deteriorate. You may get what you want, we may not be able to find people to do this thankless job of being a policeman. If we get rid of the cops, criminals will take over and run the streets. Defund the police? The crime rate is climbing already.

I do think we have too many people in jail. That's not the fault of the cops though, we need to change the laws and decide which types of crimes we really want to put people in prison for. Everyone's demonizing the police, but it's not just the police, it's the entire justice system that needs overhauling. I'm cool with putting more money into communities to create opportunity (even though we're getting close to socialism here). If that will lessen crime, then great, once the crime rate goes down as a result of those programs (if they work), then let's talk about scaling back the police force.

One point I agree with you on are wellness checks. Those could be done by someone other than the police. My only fear here is a lot of mentally ill people are dangerous, so we could end up with some social workers badly hurt, or worse. But if they're willing to give it a go, I am.

 

[PeasantPlayer]

BLM is a political organization founded by Alicia Garza, who is a Marxist and LGBTQ activist.

Now your second sentence is rather provocative. In order to be against racism you have to be against the police? Is that really the standard now? Did you know the police in Atlanta are over 50% black? Why would a racist organization hire mostly African Americans? Who do you think arrested the guy who shot Rayshard Brooks? His family was on TV wanting justice. If there is no justice system, how are they going to get justice? I'm in favor of police reform, But if you want to get rid of all police, law enforcement, and the judicial system, then what you are advocating is to radical for me, my friend.

Blm was founded by a Latina?

 

[zekko]

Blm was founded by a Latina?

Garza is her married name.
If I understand correctly, she is a lesbian, but she is married to a male who identifies as a woman.

 

[jaymbrs]

Blm was founded by a Latina?

Look her up. She's def more black than anything else.

 

[jaymbrs]

I'm just waiting for the movement by ugly people demanding fair treatment as attractive people.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Garza is her married name.
If I understand correctly, she is a lesbian, but she is married to a male who identifies as a woman.

OMFG. What a mess.

 

[RickTheToad]

What the fuk has the world become?

Welcome to the new world order. I also feel bad for the blacks. This whole movement belittles them a bit.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Good morning sir how would you like your socialism to be wrapped?

Uhm not sure, do you still have the workers rights paper?

Sure sir but its out of fashion, have you ever considered the environmentalist or human rights one? our clients LOVE IT and no one guesses whats inside!!!

 

[EyeBRollin]

What the fuk has the world become?

is being against systemic racism a problem?

 

[17 shots]

Just assert your white privilege on it, then it'll make an exception for you, and you only

 

[Hal9000]

I notice they are using Black Lives Matter in capitol letters, which means they are supporting the Marxist political organization whose main goal is #Defundthepolice. Racism is bad, most people will agree on that, but not everyone is going to agree with defunding the police. So using that and BLM as a litmus test for racism seems pretty alarming.

Don't you just love the irony of people pretending to care about black lives insisting that we defund the police? Guess who will be most negatively impacted by having fewer, or no, police? That's right, black people. Yet to be against BLM and their bizarre demands somehow makes you a racist, at least according to the powers that be. Orwell would be impressed at how the modern Marxist left has hijacked our language.

 

[Hal9000]

More impressive is how the feminist left grabs on to this and weaponize to further their agenda

Exactly. Who, other than a bunch of US hating nutjobs, thinks women will be safer without cops? Makes their true agenda abundantly clear.

 

[Stoic]

I think we both know that there is way too much police and jails and too much budget shortfalls when it comes to community investment. Why is it easier to build a jail then to build schools? Budget wise there should be better balance. There should not be any short fall when it comes to improving people's lives.

In terms of your arguments, while well intentioned, it fails to see the extent of abuse and harm perpetuated by law abiding Black civilians. I think there is evidence all over the place that there is rampant racism to the point that people are afraid to call the police.

Look at this article here where a Black business owner called the police because of looters in his store, and he ends up being punched in the jaw while the looters got away: https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/2020/06/09/us/ap-us-officer-punches-store-owner.html

If you look at an article like that, then what is the point of having police in the first place? Look at the level of incompetence? They are doing more harm to people who are calling them for help than any good.

There were two police killings in my area from Black people who called the police for help because of a mental episode and they ended up dead:

Toronto police accused of pushing black woman from balcony to her death

Ontario's police watchdog has been called in to investigate the death of a 29-year-old woman who fell from the balcony of an apartment building in To…

www.blogto.com

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/fifth-estate-d-andre-campbell-police-shooting-family-1.5602503

What does both of the above articles have in common? If the police were not called there would be two more people alive today.

Or, how about this article, elderly Black patience from a hospital is tackled by the police:

Black senior seeks justice after violent incident by Durham police outside Ontario hospital

A 68-year-old Black man is seeking justice after he was struck several times on his head and left nearly unconscious by Durham police officers as he was attempting to leave an Ajax hospital with his wife.

toronto.ctvnews.ca

The above article is very horrific with me because I have elderly Black relatives. My mother is over 80 years old.

How about wellness checks?

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Nice young girl is killed because someone called the police for a wellness check on her. Here's another wellness check in the States:

Fort Worth officer charged with murder in killing of black woman in her own home

Aaron Dean, the officer who shot Atatiana Jefferson, resigned on Monday, hours before he was booked on murder charges.

www.vox.com

So you call the police on someone to see if they are okay, the police can end up killing them? There is no justice for any of these police killings because police are above the law and can act with impunity when it comes to killing off Black or Indigenous people.

You have said that you support police reform, however, nothing has happened since the Rodney King riots in the early 90s and people are becoming increasingly impatient at any sort of incremental reform. Just know this, if an officer is Black and the victim is White, then you don't need a police reform for that because the Black officer is usually immediately arrested, fired, and charged and convicted with a prison sentence.

Take a look at these articles:

Louisiana officer gets 40 years in prison in killing of 6-year-old with autism

Body-camera video shows the boy’s father had his hands raised in his vehicle while Derrick Stafford and a second officer fired 18 shots after a two-mile chase

www.theguardian.com

Minneapolis to pay police shooting victim's family $20 million

Minneapolis city officials on Friday announced a $20 million settlement with the family of an Australian woman who was fatally shot by a police officer in 2017, just days after the officer was convicted of crimes associated with the killing.

www.reuters.com

A White person in another country has more rights than any Black person does in the USA. In this same jurisdiction when the victim was Black, all the family got was a measly $ 4 Million settlement and the officer were acquitted.

Killing of Philando Castile - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The point I am making is you don't need police reform when it comes to dealing with White victims of police brutality when there is an accidental shot from a Black officer resulting in the White victims death. However, a White police officer can unload clips of bullets or shoot someone at point blank range or in their back and get a pass in the criminal justice system time and time again.

Does that tell you a system like that can really be reformed or it's so rotten to the core that it has to be dismantled completely and there needs to be a new social contract because the legitimacy of policing, as we know it today, is shot. People are tired of lip service and seeing the can being kicked down the road to another disaster a short time later and want real change.

I'm sorry, but you're a fool man.

The biggest problem impacting blacks today is not police brutality and not racism. More blacks from Africa have come to the u.s. immigrating (2 million) than that came here through slavery. Why do they choose out of 200 other countries to come to a racist country?

In 2018, 19 unarmed whites were killed by police vs 9 unarmed blacks. Check out other years and the data is similar.

In the city near me, there were over 300 black on black murders. I have not heard BLM say a word about this.

 

[Stoic]

No it's not. Believing that America is systemically racist is. Believing the police are systemically racist is. Do you know what systemic means?

Read my post above.

The biggest problems blacks face is not racism. Does it happen? With 300 plus million people, of course it does. Do you remember the knock out game? Blacks would run up and punch older white people in the head to try and knock them out. Did that make the US a a country full of black racists? No.

The biggest problem is 80% of blacks born out of wedlock and without a father. Next would be black on black murder which in the city nearest me was 300 plus for 2019. Check out what Chicago black on black murder was. Where are the protestors for that?

is being against systemic racism a problem?

 

[corrector]

I'm sorry, but you're a fool man.

The biggest problem impacting blacks today is not police brutality and not racism. More blacks from Africa have come to the u.s. immigrating (2 million) than that came here through slavery. Why do they choose out of 200 other countries to come to a racist country?

In 2018, 19 unarmed whites were killed by police vs 9 unarmed blacks. Check out other years and the data is similar.

In the city near me, there were over 300 black on black murders. I have not heard BLM say a word about this.

How many were killed for fun while they had handcuffs? How many dogs or animals are treated that way? A dog has more respect by law enforcement than a Black person does because it is a hypocritical sh1thole human rights abusive country. Take your nazi bs stats somewhere else.

 

[Stoic]

How many were killed for fun while they had handcuffs on fvxker?

Out of the hundreds of thousands of arrests this year? I know of this one, which was atrocious. What percentage of arrests end in the death of a black? An Infinetessimly small percentage.

The odds of a black getting killed by a cop unjustifiably are ridiculously low. The odds of a black getting murdered by another black are over 1000 times greater.

 

[Stoic]

Take your nazi bs stats somewhere else.

It's from Pew Research Center.

And murder statistics are put out through the city and broken down farther at FBIs website.

 

[Hamurabimbi]

Nobody forces anybody to use Bumble.

Use Tinder.

 

[corrector]

It's from Pew Research Center.

And murder statistics are put out through the city and broken down farther at FBIs website.

So white people never commit crimes including murder on other whites? In my city it is 21 times more likely for a Black to be shot by police than a White. Is the rate of murder by police in proportion to the population?

The tactics of deflection ignore white on white crime including murder and ignore the concept of disproportionality. Its not just a matter of killing. Who wants to go to jail on a bs charge like resisting arrest while the police beat you up and your blood stains goes.on their face? There is just too much stats to go over. If you were Black you would probably been in jail already for something you are normally doing. Did you ever take or hold drugs? Did you ever jaywalk? Did you ever drink inside a car? Did you ever have a broken taillight? Did you ever go in a park that was no tresspassing? The list goes on and on of what Blacks have gone to jail for but normally whites dont.

 

[Hal9000]

No it's not. Believing that America is systemically racist is. Believing the police are systemically racist is. Do you know what systemic means?

Read my post above.

The biggest problems blacks face is not racism. Does it happen? With 300 plus million people, of course it does. Do you remember the knock out game? Blacks would run up and punch older white people in the head to try and knock them out. Did that make the US a a country full of black racists? No.

The biggest problem is 80% of blacks born out of wedlock and without a father. Next would be black on black murder which in the city nearest me was 300 plus for 2019. Check out what Chicago black on black murder was. Where are the protestors for that?

The left hates stereotypes, except when they are the ones doing the stereotyping. One cop does something bad=all cops are bad and need to be defunded. However if you were to reach the same conclusion about black people in general because of the action of one (or only a few) black person then you're a racist nazi. See how easy it is for them to completely throw intellectual honesty out the window when it comes to discussing anything to do with race? Yet we are all supposed to quietly let them loot, pillage and destroy without question. No wonder they can't be bothered with "stats".