Random thought...I'd guess that the majority of men on sites like Sosuave, Bodybuilding, AskTRP, etc., etc., are either above average in looks or okay lookswise and take good care of their bodies.
That is, it's probably rare that a man who's hopelessly ugly, obese, or otherwise unattractive might come here. Maybe I'm wrong. To be solipsistic for a moment, I came here years ago because I knew I was above average and couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
To be solipsistic as well, if I was ugly, I wouldn’t even be here. I wouldn’t even have 1/1000th of my experience to be preaching to anyone. So for me, being good looking is like a given. I assume everyone has LMS. And I purposely ignore the incels because I don’t know what to say to them.
That's interesting, because I have never considered myself good looking. I mean I don't think I'm ugly (certainly I'm not an incel), but I think I'm pretty much average in the looks department. I've always said my looks don't help me, but they don't seem to hurt me either - so like I said, average. Some days I look in the mirror and think I look great, and other days not so much. There are certain girls who consider me attractive, but I don't have the kind of looks that are going to get a lot of attention when I walk into the room.
I've always thought it must be great to be that good looking (by that I mean to be considered well above average). Or to even think you're that good looking lol. I don't think I could ever consider myself to be that good looking because I am too aware of my own flaws. I think I may even have some very mild body dysmorphia. Then again I don't find males to be that physically attractive in general - I'm often surprised at some of the men I hear women raving about - like Colin Jost or Seth McFarlane.
I remember when I was younger there was a part of me that considered myself more handsome than others, but another part that felt inferior. Realistically, I eventually came to the conclusion I was average looking. I work out and try to eat healthy, but genetically the males in my family have tended to be pretty scrawny. I had to bulk myself up quite a bit just to get to the point where I was normal lol.
Originally I became interested in seduction theory because I was getting some age on (I think I was 48 at the time), and I was aware that there were ideas about women being attracted to certain behaviors, so I was looking into that. I knew I was getting close to an age where I would be losing physical attractiveness (at the level I had), so I was wondering if there were any compensations I could use. There's a self identity issue to being a (somewhat) attractive male, and I knew girls could be attracted to older men (my girlfriend is 15 years younger). So that's why I came here. I stuck around because I think the topic is interesting. I don't feel like I'm here to give game advice, as I don't consider myself an expert, but I will relate things I've learned from my experiences when appropriate.
One school of thought that was around at the time was that a "game" theory could only be proven if it was put into effect by a relatively unattractive male. That way it could be proven that it was the behavior that was doing the attracting, and not just the looks.
I get what you were trying to say now. Thanks for taking the time out to explain it.
