People are starting to rebel against lockdown

[corrector]

again you fail to undertand the point, its said the coronavirus tend to survive in places around a day till 4 days, working alone don't work if your job is taking things to others places, with means you get contact with people.

When things are delivered, lately, they just drop them at the door and normally there is no contact. Lysol wipes can disable the virus after 10 minutes of contact, or also Clorex, or Seventh Generation. While this may not be realistic, there are steps that a company can take if they are serious about this.

masks don't protect you from the virus, unless you use a full hasmat gear or a gas mask, masks prevent the range of bacteria from your mouth to the air, aka, in only works if you are sick, and and even so not that good, but good enough to prevent infections during operations, or anything serious.

Maybe they do, maybe they don't. We are talking about N95 and over respirators. They are supposed to work against the virus if its put on correctly, stored correctly and is a proper fit. This does not give license to ignore social distancing rules and would be part of a regimen.

what I see like always is lack of knowledge and fear, but again being a hypocrite is ok, you expect others take the risk, and want everyone to make sacrifices for you, but you just keep parroting the same fear mongering without a single thought

I have raised points about wipes and N95s that you seem oblivious about and have also mentioned we don't primarily rely on delivery services, so really I don't have a clue about what you are talking about here.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Real-Estate. What does that have to do with this discussion? It's a stay-at-home type of industry before covid-19 since you are at other people's homes - either showing or listing for sale.

Just asking cause someone who doesnt get the conseguences of production to stop clearly does not produce nor consume any good in his line of work.

Dont get me wrong I also do not produce anything yet coming from a family who does I know what it means to run out of raw materials.

The moral high ground has always been there. Your dystopian alternative is to sacrifice human life for profit. Luckily, modern society has evolved beyond your position.

From which movie is this line? some hunger games one?

Surely not like some movie about a tyrant telling people what to do because of some terrible evil (which in fact doesnt exist to that degree) and people willingly obeying quitting their freedom and well being.

They did print more... through his entire term. Taxation is to keep us working. I'll repeat the question you refuse to answer: how did the U.S. government pull $2 trillion out of their ass for the latest round of "stimulus?"



^^^ Personal attacks always come when there is no other argument.

I answered your question but you clearly didnt get it, go read what public debt is and what inflation is then talk to me again about printing money...hint hint check the publich debt of all major countries.

No personal attacks, I asked what kind of work you do cause you clearly have no knowledge about production lines, its basically pointless to talk about something you dont really know.

Not saying that you are dumd or else, you simply happen not to know about a certain field.

Btw still waiting to know what your job is...

 

[Spaz]

I'm having fun with the extra time day trading stocks when im normally not home at a c0mputer, studying new stock market strategies, doing extra online police training, cooking things I had been wanting to cook for a long time, cleaning the garage and getting rid of stuff that was long overdue. I've been recognized at both of my jobs for things i have done that were related to the virus. At my day/IT job it got me a $700 bonus check. Is the world really falling apart out there? My life is great right now.

Edit: Oh and most important of all, my dog love me being home!

Too bad that u r the only smart guy in the entire thread, whom despite being in lockdown takes the opportunity to find some way to make a profit from it.

As for the rest of you boys here, carry on complaining abt being in lockdown and at the end of the day u did absolutely nothing at all but cry, moan and b1tch, how did that profit you?

 

[Alvafe]

Too bad that u r the only smart guy in the entire thread, whom despite being in lockdown takes the opportunity to find some way to make a profit from it.

As for the rest of you boys here, carry on complaining abt being in lockdown and at the end of the day u did absolutely nothing at all but cry, moan and b1tch, how did that profit you?

kinda said i'm still working so...

When things are delivered, lately, they just drop them at the door and normally there is no contact. Lysol wipes can disable the virus after 10 minutes of contact, or also Clorex, or Seventh Generation. While this may not be realistic, there are steps that a company can take if they are serious about this.



Maybe they do, maybe they don't. We are talking about N95 and over respirators. They are supposed to work against the virus if its put on correctly, stored correctly and is a proper fit. This does not give license to ignore social distancing rules and would be part of a regimen.



I have raised points about wipes and N95s that you seem oblivious about and have also mentioned we don't primarily rely on delivery services, so really I don't have a clue about what you are talking about here.

maybe where you live, but here delivery you still need to receive the thing, or pay for it, thing is goverment is demanding people to use masks, anything to cover they face, not the reall ones who really no one will use, I can say the experiences here are pretty diferent, only thing i'm seeing is people are forgetting there is a limit and when stocks are over what you will guys do?

 

[EyeBRollin]

The printing didnt begin until April....inflation will be reflected in prices in the coming months...it doesn't happen instantaneously.....keep an eye on financial news in the coming months.....

No, it will not be reflected in the coming months. You're grossly misinformed on macroeconomics. Hyperinflation is the least of our concerns while on the precipice of a depression.

 

[corrector]

maybe where you live, but here delivery you still need to receive the thing, or pay for it, thing is goverment is demanding people to use masks, anything to cover they face, not the reall ones who really no one will use, I can say the experiences here are pretty diferent, only thing i'm seeing is people are forgetting there is a limit and when stocks are over what you will guys do?

Illegal migrant workers were treated too bad. Canada is just starting to deal with the issue properly and realizes that migrant workers are essential to keep the agricultural industry functional. Any supply chains issues are because the fat & lazy Americans aren't willing to work on their own fields like the migrants for below minimum wage. The backbone industries that are keeping things functional are too often visible minorities, and blacks, who are treated badly on the job and harassed by ICE or police and now society is in a position they need them and see they are mistreated and undervalued. If they say "f-it" and just walk-off then everyone is in trouble, but that's not going to happen like that as they don't have a collective cut the nose to spite the face mind-set and are the sort that usually believes that if it's good for society as a whole then its good for them too rather than losing sleep that there is an undeserving other is taking from them. In other words, the left rather than the right.

But yeah, obviously I agree with you if you add the racial and class component. But since you did not mention that it didn't really capture my attention but now I see your point. You think people are selfish and are expecting "other" people to work for them while they sit idly at home watching Netflix and collecting virus cheques and this is unsustainable. I just hope that people see they are at the mercy of those who they have despised and treated with contempt and remember that when the virus is over and things go back into order. I never held such attitudes and am not white middle-class myself I shouldn't be characterized as being part of the lot you are talking about. People who are of the right-leaning "better than thou" persuasion are the types you are probably talking about.

 

[EyeBRollin]

youa re a moron,

Translation: you have no argument.

understanding how it happen don't mean condoning, yes I know its a hard concept, they also say even if you don't like the idea smart people can entretain the though, with I know you can't

This is the rationalization. Alvafe trying to explain away his sympathizing for 1930s Germany.

also tell me how you will protect society from individual if everyone should be locked at home? or you are telling me there is far more people who is already sick, with means all lockdown is useless anyway, because we are already with said virus and most is resistant to it?

Wearing face coverings protects others from the individual wearing it, not vice versa. What about this statement is unclear?

 

[EyeBRollin]

From which movie is this line? some hunger games one?

Surely not like some movie about a tyrant telling people what to do because of some terrible evil (which in fact doesnt exist to that degree) and people willingly obeying quitting their freedom and well being.

You're on board with sacrificing lives for the economy. You can share with us exactly where you picked up that idea.

I answered your question but you clearly didnt get it, go read what public debt is and what inflation is then talk to me again about printing money...hint hint check the publich debt of all major countries.

I'm aware of what public debt is. Perhaps you can share with us your interpretation on it. Better yet, you can answer -

Where is this hyperinflation I keep hearing about?

No personal attacks, I asked what kind of work you do cause you clearly have no knowledge about production lines, its basically pointless to talk about something you dont really know.

Not saying that you are dumd or else, you simply happen not to know about a certain field.

Btw still waiting to know what your job is...

Address the substance of my posts. Thanks.

 

[Alvafe]

Illegal migrant workers were treated too bad. Canada is just starting to deal with the issue properly and realizes that migrant workers are essential to keep the agricultural industry functional. Any supply chains issues are because the fat & lazy Americans aren't willing to work on their own fields like the migrants for below minimum wage. The backbone industries that are keeping things functional are too often visible minorities, and blacks, who are treated badly on the job and harassed by ICE or police and now society is in a position they need them and see they are mistreated and undervalued. If they say "f-it" and just walk-off then everyone is in trouble, but that's not going to happen like that as they don't have a collective cut the nose to spite the face mind-set and are the sort that usually believes that if it's good for society as a whole then its good for them too rather than losing sleep that there is an undeserving other is taking from them. In other words, the left rather than the right.

But yeah, obviously I agree with you if you add the racial and class component. But since you did not mention that it didn't really capture my attention but now I see your point. You think people are selfish and are expecting "other" people to work for them while they sit idly at home watching Netflix and collecting virus cheques and this is unsustainable. I just hope that people see they are at the mercy of those who they have despised and treated with contempt and remember that when the virus is over and things go back into order. I never held such attitudes and am not white middle-class myself I shouldn't be characterized as being part of the lot you are talking about. People who are of the right-leaning "better than thou" persuasion are the types you are probably talking about.

becaue racial and class means little, only people who are not having problems are politicians, who guess what will not have any salary cuts or paid less if they don't work, with is the norm anyway, also think globally, not only on you backyard, and with news of the virus was a mess up chinese made things will heat even more

and its not right leaning, is every fear mongering, with hey guess what again this time they are in all around, from both sides

Translation: you have no argument.



This is the rationalization. Alvafe trying to explain away his sympathizing for 1930s Germany.



Wearing face coverings protects others from the individual wearing it, not vice versa. What about this statement is unclear?

ignorance is a bliss

 

[logicallefty]

Going off topic is not typically a big deal so long as it's civil. But this thread is both going off topic and starting to become a pizzing contest. Closed.