Covid is really messing my game

[crapstainxo]

You said you are out of her league the way you are acting it seems she is out od your league.

Oh this is also obvious lol. Like I said—it’s obvious I’m a bit obsessed about this and that taints everything. I’m working on it.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

10x higher sounds like an exaggeration. 6-9000 people die every day in the US normally. 10x that would be at least 60,000 people dying a day.

I did read that eight times the normal amount of people in NY are being found dead in their homes, although that's not the same as saying eight times the daily death rate.

I am talking about NYC only with those numbers. They are finding 10x the number of people dead in their homes as they would normally in a given day

 

[Reyaj]

London

Gotcha. That is a very cosmpolitan city, I was thinking it might have been somewhere more ethnic so there might be cultural data on her.

Anyway I can empathize with how you feel as I've been in similar scenarios with women countless times. I'd basically look to spin more plates. If she hits you up continue to chat with her, if not just ignore her and then hit her up one last time when this is all over and ask her to hang out.

 

[corrector]

A bunch of others who recovered are dying within a few days or weeks of being released from the hospital due to their organs failing from the trauma of having it. But yet you have people thinking its "no big deal".

So yeah, we are taking it seriously because unlike you we don't have the option not to.

I didn't hear this particular aspect being covered in the media. This is actually the first time I've heard about this.

 

[crapstainxo]

Gotcha. That is a very cosmpolitan city, I was thinking it might have been somewhere more ethnic so there might be cultural data on her.

Anyway I can empathize with how you feel as I've been in similar scenarios with women countless times. I'd basically look to spin more plates. If she hits you up continue to chat with her, if not just ignore her and then hit her up one last time when this is all over and ask her to hang out.

thanks man. To be clear she was raised in London but not central. It’s very expensive to live in central London, and outside of central it’s still pretty diverse but not as cosmopolitan.

Ive definitely ruled out a covid hangout. I feel like if I ask and she says no for safety reasons I’ll have expended social capital for no return (at best).

I’m not sure I’m a fan of letting this go until the lockdown lifts either. Really this situation reminds me of ToddV’s texting stuff. When he’s traveling and knows he can’t see a woman whose number he’s gotten, hell still drop a ping every week or more or so. Could be a funny picture, or meme. Just something simple, positive and light hearted.I’m a fan of that.

I view this the same way. I might as well be “traveling,” so will send funny pictures or things. No commitment, no questions, no goal of getting sex, not also no goal of breeding familiarity or trying to be her friend.

Like I said above I’m not going to spin more plates because I am genuinely not looking in general and it’s for a personal reason. I made an exception here when I gave her my number because she was cute, it seemed low effort, she seems super interesting, and I felt something i don’t always feel.

Psychologically, I’ve been wrestling with why I’m reacting this way. I hold AA and can’t seem to string her along to the river. When I met her again I actually didn’t even find her as attractive as I thought she was when I first met her. And her pix online were kind of meh. So I don’t even know why I feel this way.

could because I’m just in love with an idea, and I’m in love with being in love. Neither is good but I’ve been through this before and I know it’ll pass.

 

[Reyaj]

thanks man. To be clear she was raised in London but not central. It’s very expensive to live in central London, and outside of central it’s still pretty diverse but not as cosmopolitan.

Ive definitely ruled out a covid hangout. I feel like if I ask and she says no for safety reasons I’ll have expended social capital for no return (at best).

I’m not sure I’m a fan of letting this go until the lockdown lifts either. Really this situation reminds me of ToddV’s texting stuff. When he’s traveling and knows he can’t see a woman whose number he’s gotten, hell still drop a ping every week or more or so. Could be a funny picture, or meme. Just something simple, positive and light hearted.I’m a fan of that.

I view this the same way. I might as well be “traveling,” so will send funny pictures or things. No commitment, no questions, no goal of getting sex, not also no goal of breeding familiarity or trying to be her friend.

Like I said above I’m not going to spin more plates because I am genuinely not looking in general and it’s for a personal reason. I made an exception here when I gave her my number because she was cute, it seemed low effort, she seems super interesting, and I felt something i don’t always feel.

Psychologically, I’ve been wrestling with why I’m reacting this way. I hold AA and can’t seem to string her along to the river. When I met her again I actually didn’t even find her as attractive as I thought she was when I first met her. And her pix online were kind of meh. So I don’t even know why I feel this way.

could because I’m just in love with an idea, and I’m in love with being in love. Neither is good but I’ve been through this before and I know it’ll pass.

The spinning plates is a remedy for oneitis which you clearly have. If I read your thread correctly you sent the last texts which she didn't respond to, so leave it at that. If she does respond continue chatting her up like its nothing.... But if you continue to press when she hasn't responded you are only lowering your value.

 

[crapstainxo]

The spinning plates is a remedy for oneitis which you clearly have. If I read your thread correctly you sent the last texts which she didn't respond to, so leave it at that. If she does respond continue chatting her up like its nothing.... But if you continue to press when she hasn't responded you are only lowering your value.

yes, but on flip side my response didn’t really warrant a response. There were no questions. Just value offering. And this happened earlier with no issue.

Happens in the ToddV stuff all the time.

I don’t nec disagree with you btw. Just presenting another perspective

 

[Reyaj]

yes, but on flip side my response didn’t really warrant a response. There were no questions. Just value offering. And this happened earlier with no issue.

Happens in the ToddV stuff all the time.

I don’t nec disagree with you btw. Just presenting another perspective

Trust me I'm the last person here who follows the so called "fundamentals" religiously. I completely understand your last texts weren't questions which warranted a response. Regardless if she hasn't offered any random texts of her own the follow ups on your behalf aren't necessary. Your best bet is not focusing on her at all and viewing it as a pleasant surprise if she does reach out. Without having the ability to make plans to meet any time soon its very hard for you to strike right now.

 

[crapstainxo]

Trust me I'm the last person here who follows the so called "fundamentals" religiously. I completely understand your last texts weren't questions which warranted a response. Regardless if she hasn't offered any random texts of her own the follow ups on your behalf aren't necessary. Your best bet is not focusing on her at all and viewing it as a pleasant surprise if she does reach out. Without having the ability to make plans to meet any time soon its very hard for you to strike right now.

So no point in even “pinging into the void” so to speak?

 

[Reyaj]

So no point in even “pinging into the void” so to speak?

Have you ever had a phone conversation with her? Sorry if I missed that... If not why not give that a try?

 

[crapstainxo]

Have you ever had a phone conversation with her? Sorry if I missed that... If not why not give that a try?

I haven’t. This would be a first.

I’d be ok with phone convo but again not sure what I’d get out of it given I can’t set up a date. And I’m not trying to breed familiarity.

see I know enough to know what clearly not to do, if that makes sense

to use ToddV lingo I go from silence to logical, platonic, positive. Skips over the sh tests. Doesn’t make sense to me

 

[Reyaj]

I haven’t. This would be a first.

I’d be ok with phone convo but again not sure what I’d get out of it given I can’t set up a date. And I’m not trying to breed familiarity.

see I know enough to know what clearly not to do, if that makes sense

to use ToddV lingo I go from silence to logical, platonic, positive. Skips over the sh tests. Doesn’t make sense to me

Who the hell is ToddV, is that the guy who used to make my iced coffees? lol The phone call is a lost art that can really set you apart and build rapport. If you're interested in her on a deeper level being able to converse and connect is key. I'm sure ToddV doesn't mention this when he is selling his e-book though.

 

[crapstainxo]

Who the hell is ToddV, is that the guy who used to make my iced coffees? lol The phone call is a lost art that can really set you apart and build rapport. If you're interested in her on a deeper level being able to converse and connect is key. I'm sure ToddV doesn't mention this when he is selling his e-book though.

He actually does mention picking up the phone and believes it’s a good way to set apart.

I don’t disagree. But again can’t set up a date right now lol. Not sure what the point of a phone call would be. Same reason why I’m not trying to have a text convo. Text is to set up dates.

 

[Reyaj]

He actually does mention picking up the phone and believes it’s a good way to set apart.

I don’t disagree. But again can’t set up a date right now lol. Not sure what the point of a phone call would be. Same reason why I’m not trying to have a text convo. Text is to set up dates.

How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

 

[crapstainxo]

How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

34

 

[Reyaj]

34

Ok, I was curious where the phone call generation got cut off. I guess you're a millennial.

 

[crapstainxo]

Ok, I was curious where the phone call generation got cut off. I guess you're a millennial.

Yes I generally don’t prefer phone calls (but yes I’d do well at it if I did one). Same with video chats. And she’s about 2 years younger than I am so even more millennial

 

[Reyaj]

Yes I generally don’t prefer phone calls (but yes I’d do well at it if I did one). Same with video chats. And she’s about 2 years younger than I am so even more millennial

If you do well at it, it could definitely help build rapport and keep you in her mind.

 

[zinc4]

Not really. We just know firsthand its not a game. You never respect a chainsaw properly until it cuts your hand off. When you know enough people who have gotten sick and ended up in ICU, died from it or enough doctors and nurses and EMTs on the front lines and they liken it to a war zone then it gives you a little better understanding.

As always the further you are from the action the easier it is to ignore it, think its way less serious than it is or think its being overhyped. The death tolls you are seeing are way low.

They are not yet tracking people who are dying in their homes due to being told they are not "sick enough" to be in the hospital. Can you imagine going to a hospital having trouble breathing but because you don't need to be put on a ventilator they send you home because there is no room?

Then in a day or two or three it worsens and you never wake up from sleeping. This is what is going on right now in NYC. 200-300 people are dying every day in their homes from this and its not being counted. A bunch of others who recovered are dying within a few days or weeks of being released from the hospital due to their organs failing from the trauma of having it. But yet you have people thinking its "no big deal".

So yeah, we are taking it seriously because unlike you we don't have the option not to.

Damn.....same exact thing was happening in Wuhan and China was covering it up as much as possible.

It's definitely not anything to be underestimated. I went through a month lock down in China and now this semi lock down in the US. Have basically gotten used to it now. Hopefully things go back to normal soon, but I'm not holding my breath on that.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

I didn't hear this particular aspect being covered in the media. This is actually the first time I've heard about this.

Coronavirus infection may cause lasting damage throughout the body, doctors fear

Some patients who have recovered from coronavirus infection are suffering lasting damage, including liver damage, heart damage and blood clotting problems.

www.yahoo.com