Word to the wise... If you don't close (sex) on the first date, don't bother looking for a second.

[Tilex]

Waiting for anything in general is absurd.
Life is constantly changing, and there won't be a golden opportunity that's in front of you to appear again.
I used to think that if I waited for something, it'll still be there if I come back a week later.
Wrong!

Pu$$y is a hot commodity like money.
If you aren't getting it, then someone else will.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Waiting for anything in general is absurd.
Life is constantly changing, and there won't be a golden opportunity that's in front of you to appear again.
I used to think that if I waited for something, it'll still be there if I come back a week later.
Wrong!

Pu$$y is a hot commodity like money.
If you aren't getting it, then someone else will.

It's all around you. ALL women have one...

 

[teacha]

No. That's not what I'm saying at all.

Anytime a woman makes you wait for sex, 99% of the time it’s because she’s not sexually attracted to you. Don’t confuse low interest for virtue.

 

[Dash Riprock]

Anytime a woman makes you wait for sex, 99% of the time it’s because she’s not sexually attracted to you. Don’t confuse low interest for virtue.

This hasn't been my experience in many cases. Most women of *value* will not spread their legs on the first date.

You do what you want though. Good luck.

 

[AttackFormation]

She doesn't give a fvck how many other women he has lol, she has 10x as many men.

And at least some of those men are higher SMV than both him and any woman he could date.

I can never forget when a girl insisted on proving that she was getting taken around, treated and fvcked by an international athlete among the 16 guys she named as her rotation. And this was a girl I considered to be below me in attractiveness. Guys are DELUDED if they think they can beat women at their own game in the SMP. You are playing in totally different leagues. I've said before that the best way to mentally deal with it is to expect women to have far more experience and far more options than men do, not buy the BS of the manosphere about how men are supposed to be this and women supposed to be that which just sets men up for being neurotic when reality doesn't match their delusions.

 

[RickTheToad]

Anytime a woman makes you wait for sex, 99% of the time it’s because she’s not sexually attracted to you. Don’t confuse low interest for virtue.

Not always correct. Usually, if you do not do anything by the second or third date, you're just there to fill time.

 

[Visionist]

For some reason foreplay and no sex on a first date makes a women feel skanky. However sex on the first date and it ups your chances of seeing her again.

I had this with the very first girl I sexed. I had invited her out and cancelled because I remembered that Italy was playing in the World Cup that evening.

Couple days later I drove her home from work and she was hanging near my driver's window after getting out, giving me the bedroom eyes already and holding my arm.

I invited her to the beach a while later. Again, I drove us there, took her hand immediately as I walked her down the promenade, she was squeezing my hand hard when we crossed the road, loads of girls were staring at us. It was all very new to me. I'd never even held hands with a girl before.

I had quite tight jeans on, and no underwear. I had a raging hard-on the whole time, being so inexperienced, and by the time I'd taken her back to my place, empty of my parents at the time, and showed her my sneaker collection (she was lapping all this up eagerly), my balls ached like purple fire. The pain was excruciating. l still kissed her aggressively (again, first time I'd kissed a girl) and we were on my bed getting hot & heavy.

"I really wanna fūck you now, but my balls hurt too much" I admitted to her. We didn't get naked or have sex, but I knew she'd get buyer's remorse so I licked her cleavage as a memento before driving her home.

And thought to myself "you were so very nearly there Visionist! Nearly lost your V plates!"

A few nights later I invited her round to mine to help me apply a new sunstrip to my car's windscreen. I thought she wouldn't go for it, in fact I even texted her "Becka, do you want to see me or not?" which must have sounded desperate although at the time I was hoping it sounded authoritative and masculine lmao. Anyway, amazingly she was up for it, so I picked her up, we applied the sunstrip, I teased her incessantly and then took her into my (again, mercifully empty) house and lost my virginity.

And then I screwed it all up by oversexting her the next day. We had sex once more and that was that. At least she would climb onto me and kiss me porno style right in front of her parent's house when I would drop her off, lol.

 

[sosousage]

if woman is attracted to you she wouldhave hard times resisting sex

if she did it anyway it means she coldly calculated your value and not instinctically.

 

[Korrupt]

Asked her out for sushi. Told me she "doesn't see this going any further" and that inviting me in (to her house/bed) was a "bad call" on her part when she "thought about it after the fact" and "it's more of a me (her) thing". I didn't respond after that. Figured if I picked her brain more she'd just give more BS non-answers.

She then unfollowed me on Instagram and also removed me from following her so I wouldn't be able to see her profile. Strong immaturity.

The things I'm pretty sure of in this situation are that this girl (probably) doesn't know what she wants, is EXTREMELY immature for her age (27), and has probably pulled this sort of crap before. Hence why she's been single for a long time--especially in her mid-late twenties.

Since her responses were non-answers, you can spin this situation in whatever way you want. You could say she wanted me to push hard for sex and half-rape her, and since I didn't she lost interest. Her consciously thinking that seems unlikely, but it could be argued that if I pushed hard she would have been DTF. You could also say she went further than she usually does on first dates/meets, then felt like a slut after. If I were a betting man, I'd bet she was interested that night (maybe DTF, maybe not), but afterwards kicked into anti-slut defense mode (seems pretty textbook anti-slut defense). That, plus having God knows how many options on the dating app we met on, PLUS not having to pay for any of these first dates, makes it extremely easy to go through men like potato chips.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

This hasn't been my experience in many cases. Most women of *value* will not spread their legs on the first date.

You do what you want though. Good luck.

Exactly true.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Asked her out for sushi. Told me she "doesn't see this going any further" and that inviting me in (to her house/bed) was a "bad call" on her part when she "thought about it after the fact" and "it's more of a me (her) thing". I didn't respond after that. Figured if I picked her brain more she'd just give more BS non-answers.

She then unfollowed me on Instagram and also removed me from following her so I wouldn't be able to see her profile. Strong immaturity.

The things I'm pretty sure of in this situation are that this girl (probably) doesn't know what she wants, is EXTREMELY immature for her age (27), and has probably pulled this sort of crap before. Hence why she's been single for a long time--especially in her mid-late twenties.

Since her responses were non-answers, you can spin this situation in whatever way you want. You could say she wanted me to push hard for sex and half-rape her, and since I didn't she lost interest. Her consciously thinking that seems unlikely, but it could be argued that if I pushed hard she would have been DTF. You could also say she went further than she usually does on first dates/meets, then felt like a slut after. If I were a betting man, I'd bet she was interested that night (maybe DTF, maybe not), but afterwards kicked into anti-slut defense mode (seems pretty textbook anti-slut defense). That, plus having God knows how many options on the dating app we met on, PLUS not having to pay for any of these first dates, makes it extremely easy to go through men like potato chips.

This is exactly what I am talking about in my initial response in this thread. The woman simply was not interested in anything more than one night with you. Even if you managed to have sex it wouldn't have mattered.

 

[Korrupt]

This is exactly what I am talking about in my initial response in this thread. The woman simply was not interested in anything more than one night with you. Even if you managed to have sex it wouldn't have mattered.

It seemed like anti-slut defense to me. And she's obviously an immature low-quality human being overall. She was obviously interested that night--she LET me drive her home and INVITED me into her home. I didn't push for ANYTHING and I didn't even ask to come into her house.

 

[teacha]

It seemed like anti-slut defense to me. And she's obviously an immature low-quality human being overall. She was obviously interested that night--she LET me drive her home and INVITED me into her home. I didn't push for ANYTHING and I didn't even ask to come into her house.

No need to get over emotional about trivial things. Women change their minds all the time.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

It seemed like anti-slut defense to me. And she's obviously an immature low-quality human being overall. She was obviously interested that night--she LET me drive her home and INVITED me into her home. I didn't push for ANYTHING and I didn't even ask to come into her house.

Yes but that again goes back to what I said. Just because a woman might be interested in you for a night doesn't mean she is interested in anything more than that. She could have been horny and you could have been the right guy at the right time. Who knows.

 

[Visionist]

I learned the hard way to never pass up a fûck. Even if she's a 5. Turn her over and pummel Dat Ass. Screw it.

 

[7onriverI f]

You actually need to not give a ****

 

[lizardking82]

Better off: do not go on dates. Bring the interested parties over at your place or go to her place. Dates later on if and when you see LTR potential.

If you're seeking for genuine desire, that is obvious and needs no dating. Remember dates are to eradicate doubts about wanting to bang you.

P. S - I got nothing against dates before sex, but I rarely find a woman so interesting as for me to give her 2 to 3 hours of my time to talk about things neither of us wants to talk as we either wanna bang or I wanna bang LOL

 

[Visionist]

That's why I'm always talking about LMS and telling a guy to maximize his SMV. Some people call me black pilled.

I call myself a horny b@stard.

Dating is lame. Girls are for sex and sex alone. If you want friendship, make friends with dudes.

 

[AttackFormation]

I rarely disagree with you, but I do here somewhat.

Can a woman get LAID very easily. YES

Can a woman get a RELATIONSHIP with a decent man very easily - not so much.

Their power lies in sex - our power lies in relationships and attention.

As both sexes age, I DO the believe the power shifts to men who have been successful. Their are many, many articles and studies on how women become "invisible" (their words) to men as they age.

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Yeah, I can't and don't speak for the older demographic since I'm not there yet. My post was directed toward the 20s and late teens demographic. I would also speculate about how much is an "advantage" per se, and how much is really just that a more level playing field seems like an advantage for men since men are already used to getting little to nothing for free while women only then have to start adapting to it. "Equality feels like oppression" or "equality feels like discrimination", as they say.