NHL player Nathan Gerbe 5-4 has a wife taller than him.

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This dude looks like a typical nice guy simp lmao.
Yes bozak has that boyish, almost beta like simp look.

But he has an hb10 wife while most guys here are asking for advice, getting ghosted, using game, etc and he has a high level hb at the end of the day.

And a lot of these hockey players especially really young ones dress like metro sexuals as well, what's not recommended to do on here. The feminist are pushing that style.

A lot of them look like Simps and we can make fun of them but bottom line is there are getting top grade tail while most of us on here dumpster dive on old or have to use game tactics.
 

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But then I read this forum about needing to be Chad, close to six foot and above, etc.

Then I see guys with muscle on here who are borderline Chad and they struggle to get dates.

I don't know how they met but I doubt he just randomly saw her and then started to follow her around and cold approach her and badger her. Especially a cute girl like her who has Chad options.
Where did you read on this forum that you "need to be Chad"?

Why do you keep using the term "Chad" that's an incel term and using it makes you appear weak.

This isn't an incel forum, its not PUA Hate.
 

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Yes bozak has that boyish, almost beta like simp look.

But he has an hb10 wife while most guys here are asking for advice, getting ghosted, using game, etc and he has a high level hb at the end of the day.
That girl is an 8.
 

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Everything said here regarding men, women and the dynamics between them applies in general. You will find exceptions if you're looking for it...

Do you not grasp the concept that most things aren't absolute in reality?
 

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I wish you guys could see myself and my fiance together. I'm not bad looking, I suppose, maybe average to a bit above, but she is a stunner. Even you young guys would say my God, she looks like she's in her thirties. I'm not exaggerating when I say a "stunner". She lights up any room she walks into with an indescribable smile and just an aura that attracts people.

So why is she with me? I'm not a male version of a "stunner" by any means. I'm no buffed chad, although I'm in very good shape for my age.

It's because I'm acceptable looking and I make her FEEL excited and happy. I've taken care of the basics, and that has been enough to allow my personality to reel her in. We also share the same faith which is critically important for us.

It isn't my looks, guys. I pass the grade on that (in her eyes) because I present myself well. She actually believes I'm super-handsome, and on one hand I chuckle to myself about that, but on the other hand, "handsome" to a woman includes body language and facial expressions and again, how you make them feel in your presence.

I would absolutely love to show you guys a picture of us, but I can't for privacy reasons. You'll have to take my word for it. Forget about chasing some kind of super-perfected physical image of yourself. Just be in fairly good shape, wear neat clothing, and clean shoes, and you absolutely have the physical taken care of. The rest is about making her FEEL. When you bring fun, humor, and AUTHORITY to her, she will not be able to resist. Who is the "she" I refer to? A 5 or 6? No, a 9+.

One of the biggest misconceptions is that to find a decent women you need to be ripped and a perfect physical specimen. In actual fact, women will give most men a pass who follow what I said above regarding their appearance. By and large, women are FAR less concerned about looks than we are. Men simply refuse to believe this because they can't conceive that their perception about looks is different from ours.

Look as nice as you can. Bring your masculine energy to your interactions. Bring fun, lightness, and humor. Tease them. Be superior to them. Judge them for their behavior and words. They desperately want a man they can look up to, and very few women can look up to a man who is insecure about his build and appearance, because they can sniff out that insecurity a mile away.

Clean clothes with a slight sense of style? Reasonably in shape? Clean shoes? Unless you're the Phantom of the Opera in facial features, you have already checked off all her requirements and you're free to charm her with personality. Yes, the 9+ is whom I'm talking about.

Women are attracted to POWER. A powerful man pays some attention to his appearance (but not too much) and makes sure the direction of energy flow is from him to her. He is not reactive to her, but rather is a force whom she reacts to. She wants to be tested and challenged. She's DYING to be tested and challenged. But just about every guy she meets is awed by her looks and afraid of her rejection. Hence, "If only I can get a perfect physique, then they will want me."

In fact, most women are VERY forgiving of looks as long as the basics are met. Once you project yourself as a man who shows self-respect in the way he presents himself, you're free to project dominance and start to TEST her. Flip the script on her and she will fall madly in love. Never forget that women want a man whom they perceive to be higher than they, a man they can look up to and adore. That can't happen when you're slinking around wondering how you look.

This may be a bit of a rambling post; I'm too tired to proofread. But the tldr is: Just be reasonably fit and wear clean clothes and shoes. In so doing you will find that ultra-attractive women will see and perceive you as someone to seriously consider. The looks hurdle is behind you, and it's all about your personality at that point.
 

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I wish you guys could see myself and my fiance together. I'm not bad looking, I suppose, maybe average to a bit above, but she is a stunner. Even you young guys would say my God, she looks like she's in her thirties. I'm not exaggerating when I say a "stunner". She lights up any room she walks into with an indescribable smile and just an aura that attracts people.

So why is she with me? I'm not a male version of a "stunner" by any means. I'm no buffed chad, although I'm in very good shape for my age.

It's because I'm acceptable looking and I make her FEEL excited and happy. I've taken care of the basics, and that has been enough to allow my personality to reel her in. We also share the same faith which is critically important for us.

It isn't my looks, guys. I pass the grade on that (in her eyes) because I present myself well. She actually believes I'm super-handsome, and on one hand I chuckle to myself about that, but on the other hand, "handsome" to a woman includes body language and facial expressions and again, how you make them feel in your presence.

I would absolutely love to show you guys a picture of us, but I can't for privacy reasons. You'll have to take my word for it. Forget about chasing some kind of super-perfected physical image of yourself. Just be in fairly good shape, wear neat clothing, and clean shoes, and you absolutely have the physical taken care of. The rest is about making her FEEL. When you bring fun, humor, and AUTHORITY to her, she will not be able to resist. Who is the "she" I refer to? A 5 or 6? No, a 9+.

One of the biggest misconceptions is that to find a decent women you need to be ripped and a perfect physical specimen. In actual fact, women will give most men a pass who follow what I said above regarding their appearance. By and large, women are FAR less concerned about looks than we are. Men simply refuse to believe this because they can't conceive that their perception about looks is different from ours.

Look as nice as you can. Bring your masculine energy to your interactions. Bring fun, lightness, and humor. Tease them. Be superior to them. Judge them for their behavior and words. They desperately want a man they can look up to, and very few women can look up to a man who is insecure about his build and appearance, because they can sniff out that insecurity a mile away.

Clean clothes with a slight sense of style? Reasonably in shape? Clean shoes? Unless you're the Phantom of the Opera in facial features, you have already checked off all her requirements and you're free to charm her with personality. Yes, the 9+ is whom I'm talking about.

Women are attracted to POWER. A powerful man pays some attention to his appearance (but not too much) and makes sure the direction of energy flow is from him to her. He is not reactive to her, but rather is a force whom she reacts to. She wants to be tested and challenged. She's DYING to be tested and challenged. But just about every guy she meets is awed by her looks and afraid of her rejection. Hence, "If only I can get a perfect physique, then they will want me."

In fact, most women are VERY forgiving of looks as long as the basics are met. Once you project yourself as a man who shows self-respect in the way he presents himself, you're free to project dominance and start to TEST her. Flip the script on her and she will fall madly in love. Never forget that women want a man whom they perceive to be higher than they, a man they can look up to and adore. That can't happen when you're slinking around wondering how you look.

This may be a bit of a rambling post; I'm too tired to proofread. But the tldr is: Just be reasonably fit and wear clean clothes and shoes. In so doing you will find that ultra-attractive women will see and perceive you as someone to seriously consider. The looks hurdle is behind you, and it's all about your personality at that point.
I think age range matters too. It seems the younger, air heads, especially the younger than 30 crowds care more about Chad looks in general. The older ones don't focus on the looks nearly as much, basically what you describe.

A 20 year old who still gets mommies money isn't that concerned about money. They just want a buffed guy. And besides guys their age don't make much money anyway.

A 38 year old will take a loaded guy over a broke Chad if they're looking for a serious relationship. Notice OLD profiles women in mid 30s in their profiles focus on finances and providing and less demanding on their looks and height requirement versus a 22 year old's profile.
 

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Everyone's opinion is coloured by their own experiences, not those of others.

Atom Smasher considers himself "average" looking and maintains that his 9+ woman isn't with him only for his looks. Fair enough.

Whereas in my case, when I was in reasonable shape a few years ago, I got rejected left, right & centre. Attention whōres would shut me down quickly when I made a move, and unattractive girls whose numbers I would go for just for practice, would also reject me up front. I'm cōcky-funny by nature, a teaser of women, always making them laugh, always taking control.

None of it worth a damn, in their eyes.

I also like to dress hip-hop style which is less usual here, compared to the elegant look that's in vogue. My threads & kicks look cool AF, meanwhile I was constantly told by men and women that I dressed wrong, whatever that means.

So you see, Atom Smasher's opinion is valid to him, and him alone. Maybe he's tall and doesn't realize how important that is when you're surrounded by tall dudes. I'm not tall. I'm below average here. Maybe his "in decent shape" means RIPPED and he's being modest. I was in decent shape, I wasn't ripped, cue constant rejections.

Only success breeds real confidence. I could fake all the confidence in the world, but I had no success backing it up. No preselection. No dozens or hundreds of pictures of me with multiple women on social media. All that stuff counts.

Maybe Atom Smasher and his woman simply belong to a generation where none of that mattered as much.

Times change.
 

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I respectfully disagree, as I really am thinking in global terms based on decades of experience and having brought myself up from total loser to what I am today.

I’m 5’10.5”, not particularly tall, and my fiancé is quite tall at 5’8”. That’s the only thing I would prefer was different. I’ve always liked shorter women, but it’s always the tall ones who are attracted to me. Oh well...

I’m not ripped at all. Just toned up. I have a chronic stomach problem that tends to make my stomach swell periodically. Definitely my weak point but it doesn’t matter.

Recently in another thread that was speculating on how women feel getting approached randomly by guys out of the blue throughout their day, I mentioned that I can understand why they get annoyed because when I go out to the grocery store for example, women are always trying to engage with me, and I just want to be left alone and not engage with them. This is not because of super good looks. It’s because I am projecting an aura.

You yourself say that people are always telling you that you’re wearing the wrong thing. That is important feedback. You should take that to heart and figure out why. It sounds like you are miscalibrated in that way, and probably in other ways.

The difference between you and I is that I have calibrated myself for success in this regard, but the nuances of calibration have eluded you so far. When I was in my 30s I was hopelessly miscalibrated and clueless. It wasn’t until my 50s that things started falling into place. Now I’m probably what some would call a “natural”, but I wasn’t born that way. I picked up the principles taught here and incorporated them into my personal style successfully.

I’m pretty sure what I describe in my previous post is generally universal. Remember, I said that when a man wears clean clothing (can be inexpensive) and clean, neat shoes, and is reasonably in shape (just toned up), he already has the looks department handled. The rest is your personality... how you make them FEEL. That’s up to you.

I discovered that times change, but human wiring does not. I have learned to tap into that wiring.

You are getting valuable feedback from those people who are telling you there’s something not right about your presentation. That tells me you’re shooting yourself in the foot right out of the gate. Until you get that fixed, attractive women will feel uncomfortable interacting with you.

My advice to you (and this is as universal as it gets), learn how to understand and leverage women’s hard-wiring to your advantage. Again, times change but wiring does not.

From “The Richest Man in Babylon”:

"When youth comes to age for advice he receives the wisdom of years. But too often does youth think that age knows only the wisdom of days that are gone, and therefore profits not.

"But remember this, the sun that shines today is the sun that shone when thy father was born, and will still be shining when thy last grandchild shall pass into the darkness."
 
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