Pook Theory

[derby1]

don't you just love how in 1978 she couldn't understand why all orbiters were fawning over her, but not Harry

 

[Joji]

I'll givethem a look. Thanks for your input.

I'd say 90% of his content is still up to date and will be - some technical innovations certainly changed some aspects of approach and contact with women (messaging/whatsapp dominates phone call as mentioned/high influence of social medias updates) but there are guys online already that fill that innovation gap (I think the best guys to listen now are Alpha Male Strategies - love that dude - and Richard the Enterpreneur).

One is no-car other one is many-cars dude - both obviously give off cross alpha/sigma vibe here and there, I prefer to listen AMS for tactics and Richard for strategy so to speak but they are probably the best guys that speak about dating nowadays.

PUAs? Phuck them. They ate Comet of Feminism and Hypergamy that mopped ground with them. Nowadays they are like vermins in the malls, photographed, posted online, ridiculed and removed from public areas.

Game got more difficult and dynamic. PUAs didn't manage to keep up.

 

[Atom Smasher]

The wiring, the circuitry of men and women hasn't changed one iota since the days of Pook. The input voltages and timing may vary, the environment and climate may vary, the auxiliary devices may vary, but the microprocessor and supporting circuitry is precisely the same. Women stick to their wiring mandates in entirely predictable ways. Since the circuitry is precisely the same as it was in 2000 and 1800 and 500 and 700 BC, the variables in input make the output predictable.

Therefore, the wise man understands that Pook's universally and classically-written observations can be easily leveraged for today.

 

[GoodOne123]

Au contraire It’s time to rewrite many of the rules, it’s a different time than the days of Pook. I’m trying to rewrite the books but I need more visionaries who recognize the changes ..

I can agree. Social media and online dating has changed the game.

Perfect example is how the 3-day rule (for texting a girl you just met) no longer applies. You gotta move fast with girls these days because another guy can swoop in while you're waiting and grab her attention. You got a small window where she is receptive to you, that's why I always text a girl i just met either immediately or within 24 hours.

 

[BadBoy89]

All a man has to do is:

1) make a move as fast as possible
2) keep his emotions to himself.

Once he does this, her true feelings are revealed.

Marriage makes no sense for a man in 2020. The family unit is dead. Women have freedom, option, choices, money, sex without consequences. Society gives them the green light to do anything they want with no repercussions. They are the victim if anything goes wrong.

Feminism isn’t about equality, it’s about Power.

 

[zekko]

Perfect example is how the 3-day rule (for texting a girl you just met) no longer applies. You gotta move fast with girls these days because another guy can swoop in while you're waiting and grab her attention. You got a small window where she is receptive to you

The three day rule was always stupid. And there has always been a window where you could maximize a girl's interest - if you're too slow you can miss it. The technology just makes everything move faster.

 

[cola]

I can agree. Social media and online dating has changed the game.

Perfect example is how the 3-day rule (for texting a girl you just met) no longer applies. You gotta move fast with girls these days because another guy can swoop in while you're waiting and grab her attention. You got a small window where she is receptive to you, that's why I always text a girl i just met either immediately or within 24 hours.

You seem to be the only person who gets that. You no longer are only competing with just the guys she sees in her daily travels. Your competing with her 5000 social media friends as well now. And if she is on tinder or anything else those guys too.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

What was old is new again. There's a saying, don't throw the baby out with the bath water. Pook, MM, RM, and a variety of content takes well in the girl power era.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

All a man has to do is:

1) make a move as fast as possible
2) keep his emotions to himself.

Once he does this, her true feelings are revealed.

Marriage makes no sense for a man in 2020. The family unit is dead. Women have freedom, option, choices, money, sex without consequences. Society gives them the green light to do anything they want with no repercussions. They are the victim if anything goes wrong.

Feminism isn’t about equality, it’s about Power.

They have delusional. Its not till the wall, smvSMV decay, and then she has victimhood.

Its no better times then the present to be a bachelor.

Ironically enough, conservative values and marriage is ideal for children but more cucked in the modern era. Its modern life dating in america and the UK is dead. There's a necessity for adaptation of the superior man book by Deida, chase excellence, and back burner women as well as monogamy. Pursue but as a secondary means after higher order is achieved.

Its sport.

 

[derby1]

DEE rollo and the group podcast had a short discussion about that book. Interesting views.

so relationships are dead, shouldnt people get done for emotional abuse then for fatherless children

i mean every girl in my daughters year at school(12-13 year olds) are already chaotic, emotionally stunted, attention seeking etc if they have no dad

 

[teacha]

I can agree. Social media and online dating has changed the game.

Perfect example is how the 3-day rule (for texting a girl you just met) no longer applies. You gotta move fast with girls these days because another guy can swoop in while you're waiting and grab her attention. You got a small window where she is receptive to you, that's why I always text a girl i just met either immediately or within 24 hours.

Focus more on yourself and you won’t have to worry about girls losing interest or other men swooping in. Become the great catch.

In a fountain of light descended a Don Juan.

“Hear me, oh Don Juan! There are women around and other men are hitting on them! What is your reaction?”

The Don Juan just shrugged his shoulders and laughed.

“What!” cried the young man. “These other guys are going to take his women! How can he be so laid-back?”

“He is laid back because he knows how great a catch he is and that getting women is easy. He knows he is the Prince.”

“But the women...”

“...are not significant! The focus must be on you! The guys that can get almost any women are not scared or nervous that other guys are hitting on girls. He knows things the other guys never will. In fact, he might let them have free reign to weed out the desperate and stupid chicks from the smart and picky ones. As with muscles, it is the strong guys that know they are capable who are quiet and patient. It is the noisy guys that lack the skills. It is the large dogs that are quieter while the small dogs make up for their size with their obnoxious bark. It is the patient ones that control the world; the impatient ones are controlled by it!

 

[bcude]

Didn't Pook (allegedly) become so swole that women became terrified of him and never approached him? He might have his own gravitational pull by now.

Yes, the low quality women became more and more terrified and he upped the quality of women he attracted by every ounce of muscle he put on.

All a man has to do is:

1) make a move as fast as possible
2) keep his emotions to himself.

Once he does this, her true feelings are revealed.

Marriage makes no sense for a man in 2020. The family unit is dead. Women have freedom, option, choices, money, sex without consequences. Society gives them the green light to do anything they want with no repercussions. They are the victim if anything goes wrong.

Feminism isn’t about equality, it’s about Power.

If Poon King and PlayHerMan had a child, you would be the result.

 

[zekko]

Yes, the low quality women became more and more terrified and he upped the quality of women he attracted by every ounce of muscle he puf on

No, he claimed the quality of women he attracted went up with every pound of muscle he put on. But at a certain point he got so ripped that ALL women were terrified of him. Or so he claimed.

 

[derby1]

I dont follow you. Not to me they are not. (Relationships) My daughter is almost 15 and she seems to be doing well. In my view and life i have in it what i want.
Dont jump off the cliff just yet. Its a longterm battle

sorry if were cross wired, my daughter behaves fine, much like i presume yours does, however the influx of fatherless households/single moms at the school, and the destroyed children it creates is quite obvious

 

[Glassguy]

Texting, social media and online dating have changed the environment and given women a false sense of abundance.

However, when isolated with a woman, the main concepts havent changed.

An alpha male in 2000 could still be an alpha male today. And vise versa.

The only thing that changes is the delivery. The proper frame remains the same.

Dating was MUCH easier before social media and OLD. I'm old enough to remember women putting in most of the effort and being much more vulnerable from the beginning. Now with the false sense of endless options OLD gives them they are tougher to crack.

The smart phones, OLD and social media have made it easier to talk to 10+ people at a time.

But remember that works both ways. You guys need to be doing the same thing to these women that they are doing to you.

 

[illstep]

I don't know, but I feel like the material i've read definitely doesn't work lol (even new stuff is all basically re-hased versions of old school game theory)

Back then, it sounds like people were able to go up too a random girl, and even if she wasn't remotely attracted to him, he was able to 'game' her into wanting him within an hour with his disqualifcation lines and his negs and his stories etc etc

That certainly doesn't seem to be the case anymore! Even all successful infields from 'pros' that I watch are on clear 'yes girls'. Nobody is converting girls from no to yes. Did it EVER really work like that, though? Who knows.

Also what the other poster said when he linked to that youtube vid of the guy talking about how people seem to go out simply to socialise in their groups and don't want to be approached/chat with randoms. That's the strong vibe I get here in the UK, even at night. You seem to start on such an uphill battle, and it's like pulling teeth trying too even hook a girl. All of the theory doesn't seem to hold any weight in real life

 

[AttackFormation]

Also what the other poster said when he linked to that youtube vid of the guy talking about how people seem to go out simply to socialise in their groups and don't want to be approached/chat with randoms. That's the strong vibe I get here in the UK, even at night. You seem to start on such an uphill battle, and it's like pulling teeth trying too even hook a girl. All of the theory doesn't seem to hold any weight in real life

Yea that was me with this post haha.

But I still believe guys who have what it takes to do well with women will do well in any age in any setting. @cola could be transported to the year 2120, and he'll still be a mack on the streets or clubs there like he is now. Looks especially, or a status niche, or extreme extroversion and numbers game, or a mix of those caricatures, will always be the winning numbers.

I also believe that cold approaching has never been a norm for how people meet (especially not in colder cultures like ours seem to be, but that could just be an imagination, I don't have enough cultural experience to compare and say), it's always been through mutual acquaintances most of all and then school or work. This trend of it being more and more "weird" to talk to women in real life is just a tailwind reminder of that fact.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

When I was an 18 year old boy back in 2003 reading posts by anti dump and pook, their words spoke to me. They made me realize my value.

But it’s infantile if you wish for pook to come back, lol.

Just like how most of you are supplicating to women, you are infantile when it comes to great men.

You do everything except realize that all the value and power comes from within yourself.

Their message was to empower you, not make you empower them.

It’s not even that dude, I understood and was aware of everything you are saying WHILE I was writing my first comment, **** I knew that one of the oldies on here would go ahead and say something like this ffs. But it’s not about “omg pure such a legend teach me oh wise one”, it’s more so “I understand everything you’ve said now, but now I’m reaching the limits”. There’s always more knowledge and wisdom to learn, but it’s getting harder and harder to look for said knowledge & wisdom because everywhere I look now, I find the same old stuff being regurgitated, and the ability to have more experience has decreased as well due to the shifts that occurred within the sociocultural paradigms. And the thing is, happened in a way that no one could have predicted. Pook was the first person to see that feminism was a horrible thing. Many thought he was just going mad and became angry and embittered, but the truth is, he saw it before it happened. But now things got so out of hand that even men who ate up the cuckolding dogma of mainstream media and Hollywood are feeling alienated now.

Like I said before, it’s not that big of a deal because I’ve gotten good enough skill-wise and strong/powerful enough as a man where I could argue with Pook, or anyone for that matter, about things I disagree with (some of Esther Vilar’s assertions about women for example). But perspective is what matters. Dudes who’ve been on here from 2010 don’t have a similar perspective to dudes who were on here from 2006. You can just see it in their writing. Most of the dudes from 2010-2019 all post the same way with same few perspectives. While great for the dudes who are new to all of this, it isn’t that great for dudes who are looking to reach the next level. I don’t want to just be great with women or with people or with careers/money, the gym, etc. I want to be dangerously great. I want to be a man who is dangerously attractive, a man who is dangerously charismatic, a man who is dangerously knowledgeable and dangerously wise. I’m doing what I think I have to do to get there, but I’m wondering what else I could possibly learn that would either speed this up, or show me something that I didn’t think about before. What step could I take that I never thought about taking? This could be the next step on my self-improvement journey, the next step I could take that would engreaten myself further, and help me be focused on myself more than I would have otherwise. Even if it’s not specifically something about life, it could be a path or a new way of thinking that would further enhance us all, even Pook himself since it would get him back into the more testosterone-driven mindset he had when he was younger, while also coupling said mindset with the acute perception that only comes with experience AWAY from this place. And that is what is.

 

[zekko]

Pook was the first person to see that feminism was a horrible thing.

Not by a long shot, you lost me here. There have been men against feminism since it was in its infancy. But the guys against it have always been shouted down.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Not by a long shot, you lost me here. There have been men against feminism since it was in its infancy. But the guys against it have always been shouted down.

Yeah but he was the first one to really dissect WHY it was bad. At least from what I’ve seen anyway, maybe I’m wrong.