Britain leaves the European Union today

[Spaz]

Sorry but it does not work. Chicago is a prime example. The city is very strict on guns yet inundated with guns brought in from Wisconsin and Indiana. Gun confiscation will only work if done nationwide.

As said, that would require a Star Trek transporter. It can't be done.

Other countries has done it.

Much of Asia has been at war in the past and has largely disarmed their population.

All it takes is political will.

 

[Spaz]

Well there’s downsides to those places. Lol
You didn’t mention those.

They can do whatever they want as an experiment. I would never try to stop that.

BUT, you can’t involve American politicians. They will ruin it and pollute it.

Of course there's downsides. Nothing is perfect but in terms of gun violence, there's almost none to speak off.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No. You think a centralized authority figure and government Voted by a majority that supports your mental proclivities should run it all. That’s what’s sad.

I’m a believer in states control over themselves. You want higher level control.

That is a federal responsibility. That is it’s job. Not to tell people what to think. We gladly pay for that. Plus the bulk of us have served.

Great, we will accept this as a full concession and walk back.

You think you’re smarter now? Lol

That is unscientific. Intelligence is the ability to pose and solve problems dealing with survival.

Was that a serious attempt to address my post?

 

[EyeBRollin]

I'm not an American. I don't need nor ever heard of the pro gun propaganda.

I'm saying it as I've lived through it, for practical reasons, guns are needed.

Gunpowder has been around for less than 1% of human history. Your lifespan is nothing compared to the historical reality that guns are not and have not ever been needed for human survival.

 

[Epic Days]

I'm not an American. I don't need nor ever heard of the pro gun propaganda.

I'm saying it as I've lived through it, for practical reasons, guns are needed.

Guns are needed. Reasons are different and are personal of course.

Im not pro gun or anti gun. I would be against forcing everyone to own one and am against anyone saying one can’t be owned. These are personal choices.

Telling others what to think is my sticking point.

 

[Epic Days]

Great, we will accept this as a full concession and walk back.




Was that a serious attempt to address my post?

No. Your post is irrelevant. It comes from a damaged mind.

 

[Spaz]

Gunpowder has been around for less than 1% of human history. Your lifespan is nothing compared to the historical reality that guns are not and have not ever been needed for human survival.

Throw any modern man into the distant past and he will not survive more then a week alone in a jungle.

Even with my childhood training and skills, if I were to go back in time, I myself would face problems.

The jungle is different EB, it has different laws and if a man's is taken out of that environment even for a week he loses his edge. That could mean life and death for him.

You need to hunt and then you'll understand.

 

[EyeBRollin]

No. Your post is irrelevant. It comes from a damaged mind.

Classic ad hominem attack. Are we done here?

 

[Epic Days]

Throw any modern man into the distant past and he will not survive more then a week alone in a jungle.

Even with my childhood training and skills, if I were to go back in time, I myself would face problems.

The jungle is different EB, it has different laws and if a man's is taken out of that environment even for a week he loses his edge. That could mean life and death for him.

You need to hunt and then you'll understand.

This is an absolute truth. The more time in the field, the sharper your senses get. Really good post @Spaz

Remember that you are speaking Greek when saying that stuff. The biggest danger they face is a wreck going to work. Their base survival is virtually guaranteed.

 

[Epic Days]

Classic ad hominem attack. Are we done here?

We never really started. I was indulging in quaint amusement. Your still barking up the wrong tree.

 

[EyeBRollin]

Throw any modern man into the distant past and he will not survive more then a week alone in a jungle.

Even with my childhood training and skills, if I were to go back in time, I myself would face problems.

The jungle is different EB, it has different laws and if a man's is taken out of that environment even for a week he loses his edge. That could mean life and death for him.

You need to hunt and then you'll understand.

That is a fair argument. However, hunting and guns are not synonymous. Humans have managed to hunt large animals without guns fairly easily. So the point that guns are needed simply has no merit. The best argument "well we haven't done it in a while" doesn't mean it can't be done. It has been done for almost the entirety of our species existed on this planet.

 

[Who Dares Win]

You have a vivid imagination.

You are one dumb ignorant, arrogant little boy.

Feel free to use an online translator if you dont trust mine.

The signals that reach us magistrates attest to a substantial change: many of the members of the gangs that assault villas and isolated houses are ex-soldiers from Eastern countries, with particular reference to war theaters in the Balkans or in Ukraine.

https://www.ilgiornale.it/news/cron...gono-dallest-sono-killer-paramil-1186634.html

This is an italian newspaper, you can find similar articles from Austria and Switzerland.

 

[Who Dares Win]

They could always deport anyone who accessed during the EU years.

Britain does belong to the native British after all.

Well we should define "native british", is it a matter of ethnicity/culture or passport?

Anyway the only nations that could deport unwanted foreigners are the ones that dont need to, those who should no longer can.

 

[oc16]

What a glorious day for Britain. No more E.U. No more unelected officials in Brussels. Britain is a sovereign nation and its laws should be governed by its citizens and its citizens only.

I salute the courage of the British people.

Good for them, they are an island nation who have not been successfully invaded in almost 1000 years (1066 by Duke William of Normandy) ; they are meant to be seperate.

 

[Bible_Belt]

There was no Brexit in reality. The 1 year transition period keeps everything the same, and that may be extended another two years. And they will probably just extend that. It's all just for show.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Native British is as easily defineable as what is genetically British.

I agree with that however native brits are no longer the majority in their own capital.

This is what happened in 2011 almost 10 yrs ago (I was in London as my job requires to speak english fluently so they sent us there for a 3 months full immersion), I kid you not but it didnt seem at all an european city, not a single market or supermarket was run from brits, there were even gangs roaming the streets at night outside clubs.

At some point we even stop hitting clubs cause every night it was me and two other guys basically body guarding two blonde polish girls and a latvian one from hordes of indians chasing them aggressively.

 

[thinker]

@EyeBRollin you continue to show your ignorance , where do you think for example that the food to feed the cities comes from? You also don't understand basic economics. And the right to own guns is about free will, we are free to decide if we want to own them or not. You talk ab out having to own guns because idiots own guns , you own a gun so by your logic you are a idiot, on that I can agree with you. last but not least only an armed man is a free man.

 

[Spaz]

only an armed man is a free man.

Who taught you that?

On the contrary, having to be armed means u r not free in the truest sense, a man arms himself is because of fear or incapability.

Fear doesn't equal free, it actually binds a man.

 

[Spaz]

I don't live in city limits, and I wouldn't visit any city in which I couldn't carry a gun.

If what you propose were to happen, US cities would become more not less dangerous.

Sounds more like a believe system then an actually fact.

You could always compare a believe with living facts.

Just observe life as it is in cities that has banned guns.

 

[Spaz]

That is a fair argument. However, hunting and guns are not synonymous. Humans have managed to hunt large animals without guns fairly easily. So the point that guns are needed simply has no merit. The best argument "well we haven't done it in a while" doesn't mean it can't be done. It has been done for almost the entirety of our species existed on this planet.

The training you suggests requires one to be exposed to a hunters training at a very young age, as it was for me up until the age of 10.

It has to be inculcated whilst the brain is still growing and fully embedded thus making a man fully instinctual when he's about the jungle.

The training has death rates, small kids die.

But even after surviving it all and successfully passing the trials of manhood, take him out of that environment, that man loses his edge.

I personally will need to acclimatised a few days at the fringes before fully heading into a jungle for solo hunts using traditional methods - this ensures I not only get to kill but not be killed and end up being eaten.

But with guns I wouldn't need to, I could walk in, catch a deer trail, wait and then shoot to kill.

Easy, safer, efficient and effective.