Rollo nailed female concept of loyalty with a brief line on twitter

[mrgoodstuff]

This dude is like an actuary trying to write poetry. He is right occasionally but he is way out of his element so everything is so black and white and oversimplified. I think a lot of oversimplification and hypergamy obsession of is the desire to take credit for his own success maintaining his family so you create a theory that reinforces it was all your doing.

Its very aggressive view and it does describe a certain viewpoint which has some foothold. I dont think its responsible to take it word for word. But it is useful for fully detaching.

 

[lamath]

Its very aggressive view and it does describe a certain viewpoint which has some foothold. I dont think its responsible to take it word for word. But it is useful for fully detaching.

It help understanding stuff we see happening, I never knew the value of attention/validation before SS and his book and this help me understand better why women and ppl in general do stuff.
i think Rollo is very smart but not all is black and white.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Its very aggressive view and it does describe a certain viewpoint which has some foothold. I dont think its responsible to take it word for word. But it is useful for fully detaching.

Same view as the "Manipulated man". It's very aggressive and dehumanizing. But it shows a man the transactional situations that occur, the programming that's done from birth till teens, the societal conditioning, and how women "employ" men for different roles. How many womens default method is various manipulations. So once you are aware of it, you can have much more control over which part of it you choose to participate in.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It help understanding stuff we see happening, I never knew the value of attention/validation before SS and his book and this help me understand better why women and ppl in general do stuff.
i think Rollo is very smart but not all is black and white.

The attention thing is so real, and people will employ or USE you just for your attention. They waste your time for a reason. All the big players say "attention is our currency" such as AMS, Player Supreme, etc... It's true.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

It help understanding stuff we see happening, I never knew the value of attention/validation before SS and his book and this help me understand better why women and ppl in general do stuff.
i think Rollo is very smart but not all is black and white.

I don't agree black and white either, but he describes the details we had been overlooking that ADD up like a bunch of 1.59 charges on our walmart receipt. It all simplifies down to spend time with those who VALUE your time and company and reciprocate in kind. If they don't "pay" you it will degrade you to keep messing with it.

 

[lamath]

Same view as the "Manipulated man". It's very aggressive and dehumanizing. But it shows a man the transactional situations that occur, the programming that's done from birth till teens, the societal conditioning, and how women "employ" men for different roles. How many womens default method is various manipulations. So once you are aware of it, you can have much more control over which part of it you choose to participate in.

Yes, most ppl know there is a sexual competition between the same gender, however i dont think most ppl are aware of that there is also reproductive competition between different genders( male vs female) for optimal reproduction.

So in other words interaction between men and women is a competition when it come to sex/reproduction.

 

[lamath]

I don't agree black and white either, but he describes the details we had been overlooking that ADD up like a bunch of 1.59 charges on our walmart receipt. It all simplifies down to spend time with those who VALUE your time and company and reciprocate in kind. If they don't "pay" you it will degrade you to keep messing with it.

This is a very good mindset

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Yes, most ppl know there is a sexual competition between the same gender, however i dont think most ppl are aware of that there is also reproductive competition between different genders( male vs female) for optimal reproduction.

So in other words interaction between men and women is a competition when it come to sex/reproduction.

It was a natural competition, then f*ism and some of our societal norms made much of it a bunch of various scams. So much of it is scams.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This is a very good mindset

I'm still a lover, and I don't like to do people dirty. But I refuse to be getting ripped off, used, scammed, devalued, etc.

 

[lamath]

It was a natural competition, then f*ism and some of our societal norms made much of it a bunch of various scams. So much of it is scams.

My background is in biology and in college i dont remember ever learning about male vs female sexual competition, its a thing i know now but its not much covered.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

My background is in biology and in college i dont remember ever learning about male vs female sexual competition, its a thing i know now but its not much covered.

"The science of bullsh1t"... Basically is what we are studying here, and human interactions. But it's real material that matters. It actually matters a lot.

And the power of time and attention. Attention can matter a lot.

 

[MatureDJ]

Yeah this is bullsh*t. Lots of girls cheat on their alpha boyfriends lol. Some chicks are just trashy cheating wh*res and it can stem as far back as their childhood. And some won’t cheat on their betas. I mean at some point there is personal morality, self control, etc.

But the difference is that the Alpha man can just say NEXT, whereas the rest of us schlubs have to grind it out.

 

[MatureDJ]

My background is in biology and in college i dont remember ever learning about male vs female sexual competition, its a thing i know now but its not much covered.

That's because human sexuality, aside from the anatomy , is a topic in psychology, perhaps even anthropology, not biology. Animal ethology is squarely a topic in zoology.

 

[MatureDJ]

Then it would stand to reason that the attraction between you and your gf should be more than skin deep. That's why so many of us advise to walk when disrespect surfaces, because her respect for you is what keeps her committed. Cold blooded pragmatism involves a lot of walking.

BINGHISSIMO!

 

[MatureDJ]

How exactly does a girl earn a compliment on her looks? Sure she can dress up, do her hair, and put on makeup, but I don't think that's what is meant here by earning. I know the consensus here is to never compliment a girl on her looks, I'm just trying to wrap my head around this. I know enough not to tell a woman she's beautiful (even if I'm thinking it), but the logic still seems a little fuzzy to me.

They earn it by wearing something that makes the figure stand out, or my applying makeup just so, or keeping the ice cream in the freezer, etc.

Perhaps I am an oddball amongst men, but I will look at attractive women for nothing more than the opportunity to view upon a beautiful lass that get my pleasure hormones pumping.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

They earn it by wearing something that makes the figure stand out, or my applying makeup just so, or keeping the ice cream in the freezer, etc.

Perhaps I am an oddball amongst men, but I will look at attractive women for nothing more than the opportunity to view upon a beautiful site that get my pleasure hormones pumping.

Still absorbs attention.

 

[Desdinova]

When a woman is having an affair with a man who her hindbrain acknowledges as an Alpha, it feels like cheating to her when she has sex with her Beta husband. Her ‘loyalty’ shifts to the Alpha she’s cheating with because he’s her best option and she can’t afford losing him.

I don't think her brain really does anything. She lives in the moment of how she feels. If she's attracted to the guy she's cheating with in that moment, she'll do it. If her beta husband does something that makes her feel attracted to him, she'll sleep with him too. Women know they're cheating with the alpha. They don't feel like they're cheating on the alpha with the beta. They do what feels right at the time.

Rollo has a lot of good stuff, but I think he'd have a better perspective if he actually experienced some of this stuff first hand.

 

[lamath]

That's because human sexuality, aside from the anatomy , is a topic in psychology, perhaps even anthropology, not biology. Animal ethology is squarely a topic in zoology.

Yes human behavior and sexual strategies are not covered in biology and can be much more complex

However there is similar strategies in the animal kingdom that should be studied in evolutionary and behavioral biology.

I remember studying some species reproductive behavior where the inter-gender sexual competition is exhibited but its mostly approach as a species sexual strategy and not from the angle of the competition between make and female.

The Red Queen by Matt Ridley open my eyes on the concept.

 

[Desdinova]

he is actually spot on. Girls get oneitis much more easily then men. Especially if your an actual alpha

Girls generally get one-itis only once in their lives. They get it for that first guy they either never shut up about or constantly compare their new men to.

 

[Newbee2]

Quote;

Well, you’re not alone. In fact, every woman will experience a drop in her libido throughout any relationship – even if you’re dating, say, Johnny Depp.

It’s called the Limerence Period and Dr Rosie goes into it at length in her book, Where Did My Libido Go?.

She said a woman’s lust runs on two neuro-transmitters, dopamine and adrenalin, which peter out during the first six, twelve or eighteen months of their new relationship.

Yes, you can literally count the honeymoon period on your fingers and toes. And after that?

“After the Limerence phase, many women will never again or rarely feel enough desire for them to initiate sex.”

Sorry guys.

“That is very disappointing for the woman and very disappointing for her partner because she’s gone from being a hot tamale to being, at best, receptive to his sexual advances and, at worst, being avoidant of them,” Dr Rosie said.

After that heady honeymoon stage, a woman’s sex drive can be affected by fatigue, stress, poor diet, a poor body image, painful sex, her husband’s pouting … the list can go on and on.

Quoted from;

Some wives get paid to have sex

“I DON’T like sex, so I should get something out of it.” How some wives insist on being paid for sex

www.mamamia.com.au

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Could it be her biology..?

no matter what man she have, it will become a everyday item for her.

A bad boy will keep her on her toes though, and give her the drama and emotional bull she needs in her half way adult brain. Women thrive with drama.. why else would they love those never ending tv series with nothing more than endless arguing between a small group on mindless people..

A healthy relationship dosen't supply her tottler brain with enough drama.. no matter if you are a superstar or superman

If you drive a ferrari and eat at the noma restaurant everyday.. this will eventually become borring too...

Take away logic and reason.. add. a lot of selfish-ness to a teenage brain, and you are close to her "guide'ing system"

To her.. if it feels right, it must be right