The 30 rules, are you sure?

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I love these daily emails. I can't write about all them but today's I'm writing about.

My comment is about these rules:

Rule #6 ->After getting a girl's phone number, wait at least two days to call her to avoid appearing desperate.

I've heard different thoughts on this. I've heard that if you get a number you should call quickly to show your different. Women give out there numbers to lots of guys and if you wait too long she's not going to remember you or play dumb. Most guys wait too long to call and the excitement is gone. CLOSE THE DEAL and get the date!

Rule #15 -> If a woman disrespects you or your time, particularly early in the relationship, don't hesitate to get rid of her. NEXT!

Is this valid today with all the stuff in people's lives today? I heard women do this to test the disposition of the man. This is why women are late, they don't remember who you are when you call, etc. Women are getting massive programming to not go along with men today so you have to manage the conversations tighter by build conversations that jump the hurdles. Example, we met Thursday night at 2am at clubx and you gave me your number, sober, and told me to call you...

Rule #19 -> If a girl cheats on you, she is gone. No exceptions.

Can you clarify this? Dating is dating, right? Until you are really, really serious...doesn't each side get to do what they want? Women are unscrupulous. I see this as just another test. You can stop this if you provide the right incentives.

Rule #21-> Do not date girls from work. Work is stressful enough.

Personally, I followed this rule for years and missed out on a lot of hot, lonely women. When I started breaking this rule, a few of the women told me they preferred guys from work because they knew what they were doing all the time. One said her need for security was satisfied because she wasn't wasting energy/worried about that awesome "random" woman crossing my path. She was totally wrong about this but SHE felt more secure in our relationship. What I got from this was that women are constantly worried about younger, hotter women stealing their boyfriends.
 
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Rule #21-> Do not date girls from work. Work is stressful enough.
It's all fine and dandy while the relationships is going fine, but when it ends and if it ends badly then you're working with that crazy every day. I dated and banged a chick I worked with once for 3 months, I was crazy about her, thought my ship had finally come in, then she cheated on me and ended up marrying the guy. Now she stomps around all pissed off when im around, she said mean things about me until the people she was saying these things to told her to stop and set her straight and let her know they knew what the score was. 4 yrs later she still works there, hasn't said a word to me in those 4 yrs, trots her new loser hubby on a regular basis to rub him in my face. I don't trust her not to make false allegations against me to get me fired so I have to always be careful not to be alone with her anywhere. The 3 months we dated it was great, the 4 yrs afterwards not so much. We even swore if things didn't work out we could still be adults about it and that went out the door day one of the break up. I do take solace in the fact she has her new simp hubby on the hook now for all her college debt she racked up for her graphics art degree she cant find a job for. Not to mention her hubby is probably the homeliest guy on the planet , I still can't figure that one out. Ugly, part time job, a real loser on all levels and she chose him over me?? Anyways...
 

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The work stuff can be done, if you know how to do it. There's a difference between banging and hanging out with chicks at work vs falling head over heels for one of them and wanting to claim her as your girlfriend
 

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I can assure you that you only need 1 rule to make everything works, follow it and you will succeed.

The rule is "make sure your LMS is high enough and the chances of things going well will be great".

Not even napoleon with a swiss clock for the right timing and dante for the right lines would get a girl if he is out of shape and broke.
 

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The work stuff can be done, if you know how to do it.
There's too many variables for there to be a hard and fast rule not to date girls from work. It could just be a temporary or part time job, and maybe you meet a really cool girl that you vibe really well with.
 

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Oh, how he wanted success with women! Why did others do so well and he so poorly? All jocks did was breathe and grunt to get chicks, and he did everything possible with no success. Alas, the pangs of desprised love! She was beautiful, wonderful, but only wanted him as a friend. In fact, every girl he held desirous thoughts about thought of him as only a friend or less.

It was time for change! Information was the key, he knew. He devoured books, articles, anything at all about the nature of women and creating romantic success.

Then he met a Spanish guy named Manual.

Manual said, “Behold, for here is your battleplan:

Psychological Maneuvers! You shall learn Neuro-linguistic programming! Now speak like this: “When you HAVE THAT CONNECTION with someone, that WARM, SAFE, and COMFORTABLE feeling RIGHT THERE, then what sometimes can happen is…” With Manual, women became a sum of psychological instruments to be played to his tune.

Guides! You shall learn and memorize the booklets of Societal Situations with Women.” Now he knew to do this when she did that, to do that when she did this, on and so on. Following Manual’s guides, he met a consistent success.

Ceaseless Information! You shall never have too much information,” commanded Manual. Thus, countless articles, countless posts streamed underneath the young man’s eyes. At the end of the day he was still in front of the computer.

“I love you, Manual!” the young man cried. Any problems, any situations, Manual would always have an answer. He would consult with Manual day and night, memorize Manual’s teachings, and worship Manual.

But, oh oh. Something was not going right. He had burned the mantra in his mind, “Thou shall never stay on the phone longer than twenty minutes,” only to break it… with a startling success! Also ingrained was the mantra, “Thou shall never compromise,” and lo and behold! When he broke this rule, he usually crashed and burned. But this time he achieved high flying success. Soon, the rules that had so framed his courtly actions disintegrated.

“Ahh,” he realized. “These guides and rules were a clutch for my lack of confidence. They do, however, work but are overall limited.” Then he smiled. “The rules and guides are the training wheels, the helper out of the nest.”

No more shall he be completely dictated by that Spanish guy named Manual! He could now fly and soar on his own. So…


Be not contained by formula.

“If the rules and guides were successful, why would he abandon them?”

“Because he realized he was successful not by the rules and guides, but by the approaching and fun mindset the rules and guides demanded.”

The young man, as ever, was confused. So Pook, with his seemingly endless magic abilities, summoned up two men.

“One of these,” said Pook, “is an actor.” And the three watched the actor become Hercules, Henry V, Hamlet, and every hero with a capital H. But in person, this actor transformed into a wimp.

“What happened to the hero!?” wondered the young man.

Then they saw the other man in action.

“He is heroic!” marveled the young man.

“Indeed,” said the Pook. “One is naturally confident, the other is scripted.”

“But what is wrong with the scripted?”

“Nothing! But it is critical to realize the purpose of scripts and guides.”

“Which is what?”

Pook then took the young man to a place that overlooked two crowds of men. One group kept rushing back and forth to the man on the center pedestal, the Spanish guy named Manual. The other group consulted Manual only here and there, but traveled off in blazing new and fresh paths.

“What is the point?”

“It is simple,” Pook declared. “The point of Manual is not to grant you success. If you do, you will forever be under his dictatorship. The entire reason why Manual exists is to not grant you success but illustrate the means of success.”

“Meaning…?”

“Meaning that a few people became successful and formed Manual out from the clay of their knowledge. Manual is their automaton, their robot, to consistently answer newbies’ questions. The end goal in seduction, in success, is to make it natural. When it becomes natural, you have no need for Manual and can handle anything women throw at you.”

“Argh!” the young man pulled his hair. “I used to think women were nice and charming, that only bad boys were the problem! This knowledge is shattering every ideal I held about women.”

Pook nodded. “These are but a few of the Harsh Truths:

Women would rather share a successful man than be attached to a faithful loser.

Many women do not marry for love.

Most divorces end up with the guy cherishing the woman but the woman detesting the man.

Even for long-term marriage, the Don Juan is the way to go.

The ‘innocent, nice girl’ is often the horniest and likely uninnocent.

Many women consider your looks, your career, what you can offer them, before your integrity and character.

Women are more sexual than men can even dream.

Women are not attracted to genius, only strength and imagination

Woman’s sole mission is union, either for pleasure or the fruits of children. She cares nothing for your philosophy and all except to either use it to catch interest in a guy or to enthrone herself.

Women, in sex, desire to be treated as an object and relish it.

Women place value in societal links; how they are thought of. You become her ego.
 

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Rule #19 -> If a girl cheats on you, she is gone. No exceptions.

Can you clarify this? Dating is dating, right? Until you are really, really serious...doesn't each side get to do what they want? Women are unscrupulous. I see this as just another test. You can stop this if you provide the right incentives.
It's not cheating unless there's an agreement to be exclusive. Before that it can't be called cheating because they never agreed either implicitly (starting a monogamous relationship) or explicitly to not fvck someone else. However, many people don't like the other person fvcking someone even though they're just dating. So even if it's technically not cheating it may not make any difference practically speaking.

Rule #6 ->After getting a girl's phone number, wait at least two days to call her to avoid appearing desperate.

I've heard different thoughts on this. I've heard that if you get a number you should call quickly to show your different. Women give out there numbers to lots of guys and if you wait too long she's not going to remember you or play dumb. Most guys wait too long to call and the excitement is gone. CLOSE THE DEAL and get the date!
Yeah, time rules are among the stupidest. It just doesn't matter that much. It's more reliable to follow what not to do than always doing it one specific way. In general, don't be too quick and don't be too slow. Anywhere from a few hours later to the next day works. If she texts first then don't wait unless you genuinely are too busy to respond right away.

Two days is definitely too long. It's way past the time of desperation and will probably come off as too uninterested. Actual desperate guys won't be able to wait for more than maybe 2 hours, waiting for longer than that rules out desperation.
 
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