After 4 years, back on the singles scene...First attempt failed

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

I went clubbing Thursday for the first time in a long while with a bunch of friends, in a really trendy club. We were 10 guys and 2 girls. But that's beside the point.

I never know what to do when I go to a club. My male friends mostly hang out at the bar, or we take a VIP table. Most often than not, I stand like an idiot with a drink in my hands, observing people. Most of my male friends do the same.

I don't know how the f*uck I expect to talk with a girl standing like that...

Observing my "more entrepreneuring" friends, these guys they stand next to the bar as well, but instead of standing still, they grab every single woman that passes by, and try to start a conversation. These guys they never go home alone.

Anyways, I was standing at the bar, when out of nowhere, a cute young lady (20 something) falls to the floor right at my feet. I help her stand up, and from her demeanor, I could clearly see that she was physically present, but mentally gone. Not sure if she was only drunk or on any other substance.

Anyways, I help her stand, and I tell her to rest against the bar. Not sure that she understood me. So I grabbed her, turned her back towards me, stood behind her to support her, and put her elbows and upper body on the bar. We stayed like this for a couple of minutes...my plan was to get her to support herself and leave. But that is not what happened...

So as she was perched on the bar, with me behind her, my body supporting hers, she started moving her body to the music, and rubbing herself on me. By reflex, I distanced myself from her, so she turned the other way around, her back now to the bar, her face facing mine...and she jumped on my lips, and we started French kissing.

I teased her by pushing her back to the bar, and I could see that she was craving more..so she tries to kiss me again and I push her again...she gives me this nasty look like, wtf dude, kiss me! So I grab her hair, I pull on it to bend her neck backwards, and I start biting and kising her neck, down to her decolte.

A few minutes later, she was standing back to me, her ass on my crotch, dancing to the music, and I was rubbing her pu$$y and she seemed ecstatic...she was about to orgasm, and then I stopped before she does. She loved every single second of our interaction. And every few seconds, I would push her away to tease her, and she would get even more intense and would jump back on me to fondle her more.

As the music was playing, she was singing to the lyrics...she seemed to be in her own world. I really enjoyed observing her...almost as if I wanted to be part of that world she was living in. I never saw anyone before in my life celebrating the "present moment" as much as her.
But she seemed so unfocused and careless that honestly, I had the impression that I could have been a monkey pleasuring her and it would not have made any difference.

After maybe 20 minutes or so of our interaction, she tells me she needs to go pee. So since she was walking all crooked, I escorted her to the bathroom. She told me that she was walking crooked because she had a knee surgery 2 months prior. So she goes in the bathroom, comes out a few minutes later, grabs me by my shirt and we continue making out on the bathroom door!

And then the security guards came and alerted us to go get a room as our interaction was a bit "excessive", so she apologizes, and then says that she must go. I asked her for her number, and she said "noooo". I didn't insist...and she left...with me hanging to dry.

Two points:

1. I am not sure what I could have done differently in order to convince her to give me her contact info.

2. What the f*uck should I be doing in the club? The only woman I managed to meet was a woman that literally fell to my feet, and even then, I could not get ahold of her info.


Thanks!

 

[Bible_Belt]

She was on molly.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

One of the best moves you can do is to stand at the bar and just chill. You'll see women come up and get hit on and then shut down lame dudes who come try and talk to them. Nonchalantly turn to them and make a joke about how lame that guy who was trying to talk to her was and how she shut him down...she will agree and start laughing and then you can just have a normal convo with her after that...honestly one of the easiest and best ice breakers you can use to get real results.

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

****, I jsuf saw her again in a different club..hahaha
..I will go and talk to her

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

**** it was a look alike, loool

 

[biggoal]

Why don't you try OLD then?

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

I want to upload images but it says security error.

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

This one wasn't on molly, I should have known, loolu

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

Why don't you try OLD then?

I tried OLD..In fact most of my relationships are through OLD. I am fed up though.

1. The girl is rarely as attractive as her profile
2. The selection is pretty limited in my city
3. I have no time to take pictures of me all the time and keep my profile updated.

That being said, I just might install an app and do this in parallel.

 

[biggoal]

I tried OLD..In fact most of my relationships are through OLD. I am fed up though.

1. The girl is rarely as attractive as her profile
2. The selection is pretty limited in my city
3. I have no time to take pictures of me all the time and keep my profile updated.

That being said, I just might install an app and do this in parallel.

Yea that's the same problem. On old within 60 miles just not a lot of pre wall undamaged women. Match seems to have the best looking women overall though and best reply rate. Try that. Cost money but paying for it gives better quality women than free apps.

I agree about the pics of the women. Some of the dates they looked hotter than the online pics. I usually check their Facebook page out though.

I've weeded out land whales that way. They hide their fat or post old pics on old then go on Facebook and they're land whales.

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

Yea that's the same problem. On old within 60 miles just not a lot of pre wall undamaged women. Match seems to have the best looking women overall though and best reply rate. Try that. Cost money but paying for it gives better quality women than free apps.

I agree about the pics of the women. Some of the dates they looked hotter than the online pics. I usually check their Facebook page out though.

I've weeded out land whales that way. They hide their fat or post old pics on old then go on Facebook and they're land whales.

These are the worst...they only show pictures of their face, which is cute, and never their body. And then you meet her, and you have to book a table for 3.

 

[derby1]

she had a chap, beta simp mangina on a good wage sitting at home looking after her 3 kids, jayden brayden, and ishmal

she doesnt want to lose his resources so let you mess with her, but shut you down when you tried to get the number


everything a woman does is to "check shes still got it"...........if you negotiate from this mindset you wont let your time be wasted

 

[biggoal]

These are the worst...they only show pictures of their face, which is cute, and never their body. And then you meet her, and you have to book a table for 3.

Even if body looks thin they can angle the camera certain ways and such. One was a doctor looked like low end hb7 due to the way camera was angled and such. So I google and Facebook's her and she was hb4 lol and 35lbs heavier lol. Didnt talk to her again. Saved me wasting time and money going on a date with her. Hb7 and a doctor I thought I hit gold at first until I looked into her.

 

[CaptainNotSoObvious]

Even if body looks thin they can angle the camera certain ways and such. One was a doctor looked like low end hb7 due to the way camera was angled and such. So I google and Facebook's her and she was hb4 lol and 35lbs heavier lol. Didnt talk to her again. Saved me wasting time and money going on a date with her. Hb7 and a doctor I thought I hit gold at first until I looked into her.

Yep, that's another minus for OLD.

But how do you even find what their FB is? The app I use doesn't link with their FB profile.

 

[derby1]

good luck checking their fb, youll come up in there people you may know section and look like a right stalker lol

 

[biggoal]

Yep, that's another minus for OLD.

But how do you even find what their FB is? The app I use doesn't link with their FB profile.

I posted this tip before. When you get her phone number go on a website like spydailer and put the number in. It will then give you the person's name the number belongs to. You can then go on facebook and look them up.

I'd say that saved me from at least 6-8 landwhales or otherwise nasty looking women who looked hotter on OLD. Once I saw that I cut it off. I probably could have had 15-20 OLD dates the last 4-5 months if i had not screened them out and ended up wasting a lot more money.

I screen mine a lot. Some guys on here just exchange a few messages without seeing many photos and then go on the date and complain about the woman not looking like her profile pics. I might not go on a lot of OLD dates because I really filter them out. Why would I want to go out on a lot of dates if the women are whales anyway? Just to brag I got a bunch of OLD dates?

Quality over quantity. The problem with OLD here in FL is big time damaged goods and divorce rates and gold digging maximus.

On OLD websites I always try and get a number within 24 hours or else they'll move on. I'd say over 60 percent of the time they will give out their number if you ask for it. Usually if they don't they're low interest and not worth talking to.

 

[Black Widow Void]

good luck checking their fb, youll come up in there people you may know section and look like a right stalker lol

That's why you always clean out your cache and cookie files and then log on to your other non-descriptive bogus facebook profile.
----- not that I have ever done this, of course.

Seriously, back when I was doing on line dating, I got deceived with the first on-line date and felt like a fool. After that incident, I would search competing on line sites (back when there were a few) to check if there were any profile contractions. I'd also look them up on facebook (on a bogus facebook account, of course) and man! Half either looked 10+ years older and/or 40+ pounds heavier.

Some might call this as "stalking." I define it as "avoiding real-time being wasted."
Did I feel guilty when I came across a gal that was honest and legit? Yeah, but I still don't regret this practice.

 

[biggoal]

That's why you always clean out your cache and cookie files and then log on to your other non-descriptive bogus facebook profile.
----- not that I have ever done this, of course.

Seriously, back when I was doing on line dating, I got deceived with the first on-line date and felt like a fool. After that incident, I would search competing on line sites (back when there were a few) to check if there were any profile contractions. I'd also look them up on facebook (on a bogus facebook account, of course) and man! Half either looked 10+ years older and/or 40+ pounds heavier.

Some might call this as "stalking." I define it as "avoiding real-time being wasted."
Did I feel guilty when I came across a gal that was honest and legit? Yeah, but I still don't regret this practice.

Yea I notice that too. Like their Match profile they list themselves 5 inches higher and in better shape than their FB dating profile.

You also catch fake profiles this way too. You know catfhishes they steal photos off facebook from the area and they make a profile by stealing your photo.

IMO 20 percent of OLD profiles are fake. I agree about real time wasted. I'm not stalking, just don't want to waste money.

But then it's okay for a woman to ask me for more pics and my last name even though it clearly shows my chest and such and that I'm not a lard ball. I asked that 42 year old in return what her last name is and she won't give it out but asks for mine!

 

[zekko]

I really enjoyed observing her...almost as if I wanted to be part of that world she was living in. I never saw anyone before in my life celebrating the "present moment" as much as her. But she seemed so unfocused and careless

I know this wasn't really the point of your post, but this part jumped out at me. Funny how sometimes the most clueless of people can be the most zen.

 

[derby1]

But then it's okay for a woman

everythings ok for a woman to do........

i had one woman who was planning the future big style it freaked me out, so i jokingly planned something in the future

and she said i freaked her out with my LTR vibe, FPMSL

their solipsism knows no boundaries