Christianity kept me clean, too clean, f'd me up early on

[Alvafe]

As for the rest of you men who's dissing Christianity or even the Bible.

Just think of it as an "anchor" in the life story or world that you live in, through ur own creation, the anchor that pulls you back in once you stray too far from it.

the problem is when this archor start to pull you down and start to drown all diferent ideas you can, or even as holding you back to be better

my take is beliving in god or not is not the problem, most of the time the problem is beliving in religion, becasue all religion love to fight telling they are the one gods made, but when we come to terms and think when they started, it was all mens who made then

 

[Speculator E]

the problem is when this archor start to pull you down and start to drown all diferent ideas you can, or even as holding you back to be better

my take is beliving in god or not is not the problem, most of the time the problem is beliving in religion, becasue all religion love to fight telling they are the one gods made, but when we come to terms and think when they started, it was all mens who made then

Yes but the difference was the Hebrew God showed his power through Israel against all the other tribes of the world.
Israel was the only tribe that believed in one god while the other tribes believed in many.
Through Israel, God showed that he was the one true God.
You have to read the old testament and look at what Israel did.
Starting with Moses and the Red Sea.
They were basically a small tribe and no way could they had survive against the many other tribes in the world unless they were being protected by God.

 

[Alvafe]

Yes but the difference was the Hebrew God showed his power through Israel against all the other tribes of the world.
Israel was the only tribe that believed in one god while the other tribes believed in many.
Through Israel, God showed that he was the one true God.
You have to read the old testament and look at what Israel did.
Starting with Moses and the Red Sea.
They were basically a small tribe and no way could they had survive against the many other tribes in the world unless they were being protected by God.

not quite, since it was show most spiritual leader had a pretty keen knowledge of survival in that area, they recreated some of this saying the moses did, with in turn weaken the whole protection on god, and became more as survival expert, plus remember most storys are changed over time, with exagerations in the tale

 

[Poonani Maker]

Yes but the difference was the Hebrew God showed his power through Israel against all the other tribes of the world.
Israel was the only tribe that believed in one god while the other tribes believed in many.
Through Israel, God showed that he was the one true God.
You have to read the old testament and look at what Israel did.
Starting with Moses and the Red Sea.
They were basically a small tribe and no way could they had survive against the many other tribes in the world unless they were being protected by God.

Nope. Israel or "the Jews" began as polytheistic. It was only until Zoroastrianism (#1 Persian religion then, and dare I say #1 Religion of the WORLD then - it's who the 3 Magi who came to see Jesus came from...Zoroastrianism) came along that Judaism adopted "Monotheism" to itself. Not ONE American preach/priest/pastor will speak of Zoroastrianism (with Mani, Ahura Madza ("God") and Ahriman ("The Devil"). NO ONE talks about how influential Zoroastrianism of the day Most Definitely would have had an effect on Saint Paul and his ideas to mimic that huge religion next door or looking over his shoulder as he wrote/set up "the church." This Anti-Sex (Anti-Reproduction) stuff came from Zoroastrianism then and now look at where Zoroastrianism is...just a couple hundred thousand in number if that, over in Iran or India. Iran comes from Aryan, as does the female name "Erin" (Celtic generally).

Here's a flyby vid for Thanksgiving I'll share now:

 

[zekko]

But since you potentially "have no words" for something you essentially assumed about my intentions, this suggests a kind of emotional reaction to my OPINION.

I made no such assumption, I specifically said IF you were dismissing the entire Bible as mind control, then I had no words. And yes, I meant what I said. That kind of assertion would carry even less weight with me than those fake moon landing posts IMO (Sorry, Poonani Maker).

But you did say this:
"If you are a skeptic of authority, you'll see all sacred texts as means to the end of easier population control."

and this:
"It's hard to argue that religious/mythical texts don't have a certain element if population control built into them."

I'm on the cynical side, but I definitely think that someone can create spiritual writings for reasons other than controlling the populace.

I simply shared a Biblical text that I thought was interesting, and I get all this blowback about religion being the opiate of the masses. I said in two separate posts, and now I mention a third time, that yes, some people use religion to manipulate others. But that doesn't mean every spiritual idea is worthless.

 

[Speculator E]

Nope. Israel or "the Jews" began as polytheistic. It was only until Zoroastrianism (#1 Persian religion then, and dare I say #1 Religion of the WORLD then - it's who the 3 Magi who came to see Jesus came from...Zoroastrianism) came along that Judaism adopted "Monotheism" to itself. Not ONE American preach/priest/pastor will speak of Zoroastrianism (with Mani, Ahura Madza ("God") and Ahriman ("The Devil"). NO ONE talks about how influential Zoroastrianism of the day Most Definitely would have had an effect on Saint Paul and his ideas to mimic that huge religion next door or looking over his shoulder as he wrote/set up "the church." This Anti-Sex (Anti-Reproduction) stuff came from Zoroastrianism then and now look at where Zoroastrianism is...just a couple hundred thousand in number if that, over in Iran or India. Iran comes from Aryan, as does the female name "Erin" (Celtic generally).

Here's a flyby vid for Thanksgiving I'll share now:

Ah Okay. If you say so. And today we have Star Wars to reteach us the the meaning of Zoroastrianism and the concept of God as the Force and eternal battle between Good and Evil.

 

[candyman105]

Dummy blames God for his lack of success in life. What an idiot lol.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Dummy blames God for his lack of success in life. What an idiot lol.

you're poor aren't you? soooooo poor...you need to use your time to make some money dude

 

[Alvafe]

I somewhat agree, but think some sort of 'mass control tool' is actually required unfortunately.

When I was a little kid in the 90's and 00's Christianity was still the main ideology. We actually sang Christian songs in school assembly and got taught those values. That kind of culture has been very purposefully eroded, leaving a sort of power vacuum which feminism has taken up.

I think the majority of people are sheep that don't want to think too hard, and really do need to be led around by the nose. So perhaps better the devil you know in that regard.

and that is one reason I prefer to drop it all, what hold people back before was not religion, was society as a whole, if woman was sluting around no man would want her for anything serious, worse even IF she had kid of someone else, she would NEVER find a men again, today? the thirsty is strong on everyone, some even are willing to share partner just to no to be alone, we traded self value to public validation, teh first you know how valuable you are and would never compromise yourself for anyone, the later you have no value from you, so you seek this from a external source.

also remember religion will change based on need to keep people, if they dogma are not selling as well as before, they will change it to gather people

my reason to drop all religion is not only is a clutch, holding people back, is because as long you treat people as invalid who can't have freedom and deal the outcomes of they decisions, they will never learn to be free, you can bet your ass then most people who love to yell they are independent are the most who are dependent of help from the goverment or they parents

 

[Spaz]

the problem is when this archor start to pull you down and start to drown all diferent ideas you can, or even as holding you back to be better

my take is beliving in god or not is not the problem, most of the time the problem is beliving in religion, becasue all religion love to fight telling they are the one gods made, but when we come to terms and think when they started, it was all mens who made then

From my Christian faith, I've learnt that God encourages men to be the best he can since it was God's original design - since we men are made in his image.

Since God's knowledge is boundless, his power infinite etc etc then we men should strive to be like him.

Which makes me wonder, how is it that you guys manage to think otherwise?

You were born to be great, to explore the universe, to conquer everything, that is ur God given right.

The question is that everyone here should ask themselves is, why hv you not done it yet or what have you done so far?

 

[Alvafe]

From my Christian faith, I've learnt that God encourages men to be the best he can since it was God's original design - since we men are made in his image.

Since God's knowledge is boundless, his power infinite etc etc then we men should strive to be like him.

Which makes me wonder, how is it that you guys manage to think otherwise?

You were born to be great, to explore the universe, to conquer everything, that is ur God given right.

The question is that everyone here should ask themselves is, why hv you not done it yet or what have you done so far?

yes a perfect god created imperfect beings, who are easily tempted by another creation of his, the simple fact there is a fallen angel and god can't do anything to stop him already hit his allmighty status, so the question is, or god is not as perfect as you guys belive, or he is not as good as you belive, spaz you who like to delve in filosofy should know niche by now

 

[RickTheToad]

Rick I'm not here to spread Christianity nor is it the appropriate platform.

I'm just pointing out to the fellas here that each and every man has an inborn duty to take responsibility for their own actions in life, hence the "anchor".

It's good that you hv yours, and so do many others who either uses their brains to think or prefers to use other spiritual means such as the Bible.

It is after all a guide.

It's like Einstein giving the world E=Mc2 but ended up being blamed for the creation of the atomic bomb whilst ignoring the fact that the uses of that formula has many other good applications.

Mythical things never really impressed me. I equated to more to Hercules, Zeus and Aries than anything logical based and backed by facts. But if a person needs a crutch, that's cool.

 

[zekko]

the simple fact there is a fallen angel and god can't do anything to stop him already hit his allmighty status, so the question is, or god is not as perfect as you guys belive, or he is not as good as you belive

Some see Satan as a metaphor for man's selfishness and evil, but that aside:

If there is a God, He is far above human logic. Criticizing Him would be a like a two year old trying to explain how things should be to his father, or more like an ant trying to dictate to humans how to build an atomic bomb.

 

[Spaz]

yes a perfect god created imperfect beings, who are easily tempted by another creation of his, the simple fact there is a fallen angel and god can't do anything to stop him already hit his allmighty status, so the question is, or god is not as perfect as you guys belive, or he is not as good as you belive, spaz you who like to delve in filosofy should know niche by now

Fallen angels or even man, God gave them an independent will, the gift of freedom.

I guess he didn't want robots, he empowered both angels and man to surpass their known limits, to be greater but some choose another path.

To me, that is an act of a benevolent God.

 

[Spaz]

Christianity was made by beta males because the alpha are getting all the women and money so they had to invent bu**** to give them a purpose for their suffering.

Excuse me.... Beta males?

I'm not even gonna talk abt all the prophets or even jesus.

Explain, how is it that Pope John Paul II was the catalyst that brought the downfall of communism in Poland and greatly influenced the same in all the Soviet satellite states?

Seems you know nothing much except spewing on here the narratives of ur own life.

 

[Poonani Maker]

Nietzsche said the only Christian is Christ. He’s right. If you need rules for your own life your a b1tch

Christ boiled it all down into one rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That's why they killed him. Can't make money off of just one rule or law. I can live by that. Of course, I've wondered well what if you're ordering for a friend, food, and that friend is vegetarian and you're not? Do you do unto your friend as he/she would do unto you? and order a burger?

 

[candyman105]

This pansy is 70 years old and still crying a river over his upbringing lol.

 

[Speculator E]

Christ boiled it all down into one rule: Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. That's why they killed him. Can't make money off of just one rule or law. I can live by that. Of course, I've wondered well what if you're ordering for a friend, food, and that friend is vegetarian and you're not? Do you do unto your friend as he/she would do unto you? and order a burger?

I always thought it was Jesus turned down Satan's offer in the desert and that pissed Satan off. So Satan had Jesus killed.
But the irony was that it was God's plan. He said so in the old testaments. If Jesus hadn't been killed and then resurrected, it wouldn't have made a huge impact.

A lot of these young cucks are turning evil. That's why the lot of them are turning towards socialism and communism.
That poster before you reference Nietzsche and probably doesn't even understand it.
But the work of Nietzsche was what lead to the rise of Nazi Germany.
I bet that poster is a closet Neo-Nazi.

 

[Poonani Maker]

This pansy is 70 years old and still crying a river over his upbringing lol.

and you're on my shoe like gum or dogsh!t I just stepped in

 

[Alvafe]

Some see Satan as a metaphor for man's selfishness and evil, but that aside:

If there is a God, He is far above human logic. Criticizing Him would be a like a two year old trying to explain how things should be to his father, or more like an ant trying to dictate to humans how to build an atomic bomb.

you know you just returned to never disobey god's will, mass control again.

Fallen angels or even man, God gave them an independent will, the gift of freedom.

I guess he didn't want robots, he empowered both angels and man to surpass their known limits, to be greater but some choose another path.

To me, that is an act of a benevolent God.

yes free will, but everything is still on gods plan, so he gave you free will to obey what he want, that is hardly freedom, you can't say god have a plan to everyone and then toss the free will, you are just saying you need to obey and never question