Addictions and Relationship? Does it make sense?

[Blacksheep]

Just watched this vídeo.

Basically it says that any addiction you have is because you are feeling like in a cage, or adapting to a painful or negative environment. And it basically says that the more you're isolated, the more addicted to short term stuffs you are. Like Alcohol, Smoking, Drugs, Pornography, etc...

The way to solve it, in the video, is to create connections. Like face to face friends, a nice environment, etc.

So I was thinking: There is a lot of things that can be a cage right? Job, bills, marriage, and so on.

So, a guy on a marriage or LTR is like a guy that have some restrictions (that can be a cage)... and we all know here that as we castrate our sexual instinct when you got on a LTR or marriage it may not be quite good. So, that should explain why so much of married guys have addictions and even drink too much.

But, if we solve the addiction problem creating connections... isn't it contradictory? Or we should be creating connections without creating LTR cage?

If anyone was married or on a LTR here I think you can understand my point... cause everytime I was on a LTR, some food, alcohol and others compulsive addictions was exacerbated.

And if it's true, so also this society we live can take us into a cage. So what would be the solution?

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Just watched this vídeo.

Basically it says that any addiction you have is because you are feeling like in a cage, or adapting to a painful or negative environment. And it basically says that the more you're isolated, the more addicted to short term stuffs you are. Like Alcohol, Smoking, Drugs, Pornography, etc...

The way to solve it, in the video, is to create connections. Like face to face friends, a nice environment, etc.

So I was thinking: There is a lot of things that can be a cage right? Job, bills, marriage, and so on.

So, a guy on a marriage or LTR is like a guy that have some restrictions (that can be a cage)... and we all know here that as we castrate our sexual instinct when you got on a LTR or marriage it may not be quite good. So, that should explain why so much of married guys have addictions and even drink too much.

But, if we solve the addiction problem creating connections... isn't it contradictory? Or we should be creating connections without creating LTR cage?

If anyone was married or on a LTR here I think you can understand my point... cause everytime I was on a LTR, some food, alcohol and others compulsive addictions was exacerbated.

And if it's true, so also this society we live can take us into a cage. So what would be the solution?

The bad relationship dynamic raises stress often to a critical amount and that stress triggers compulsive and addictive behaviors.

 

[Jager]

Just watched this vídeo.

Basically it says that any addiction you have is because you are feeling like in a cage, or adapting to a painful or negative environment. And it basically says that the more you're isolated, the more addicted to short term stuffs you are. Like Alcohol, Smoking, Drugs, Pornography, etc...

The way to solve it, in the video, is to create connections. Like face to face friends, a nice environment, etc.

So I was thinking: There is a lot of things that can be a cage right? Job, bills, marriage, and so on.

So, a guy on a marriage or LTR is like a guy that have some restrictions (that can be a cage)... and we all know here that as we castrate our sexual instinct when you got on a LTR or marriage it may not be quite good. So, that should explain why so much of married guys have addictions and even drink too much.

But, if we solve the addiction problem creating connections... isn't it contradictory? Or we should be creating connections without creating LTR cage?

If anyone was married or on a LTR here I think you can understand my point... cause everytime I was on a LTR, some food, alcohol and others compulsive addictions was exacerbated.

And if it's true, so also this society we live can take us into a cage. So what would be the solution?

What it really is, is a suppression of oneself. Holding yourself back, and it builds into mental self-destruction. Damn right that’s why their drinking. It’s not only the fact that marriage can be suppressive to a man’s masculinity, but also financial slavery, illusions he’s been taught since he was a child, all combining to put him into self-destruct mode. He never lived dangerously, on the edge, living an exciting and fulfilling life, and he knows he didn’t. He sabotaged his life, and he knows it. He gave up his dreams, and he knows it.

The solution is this:

1. Unplug. Get rid of false data and false beliefs that serve to imprison you in your own mind. History, biology, genetics, the realities of the world and the universe.
2. Develop oneself, repairing your personal integrity, self-determinism and masculinity.
3. Have sex with women. Enjoy the passion of it, enjoy her femininity and lust for you.
4. Live a badass life. Lead people. Give them value and purpose.

 

[Blacksheep]

What it really is, is a suppression of oneself. Holding yourself back, and it builds into mental self-destruction. Damn right that’s why their drinking. It’s not only the fact that marriage can be suppressive to a man’s masculinity, but also financial slavery, illusions he’s been taught since he was a child, all combining to put him into self-destruct mode. He never lived dangerously, on the edge, living an exciting and fulfilling life, and he knows he didn’t. He sabotaged his life, and he knows it. He gave up his dreams, and he knows it.

The solution is this:

1. Unplug. Get rid of false data and false beliefs that serve to imprison you in your own mind. History, biology, genetics, the realities of the world and the universe.
2. Develop oneself, repairing your personal integrity, self-determinism and masculinity.
3. Have sex with women. Enjoy the passion of it, enjoy her femininity and lust for you.
4. Live a badass life. Lead people. Give them value and purpose.

Thanks for your feedback!

About those topics:

2 - This is really important. I'm working on it pretty hard, and the most problem was my relationship with my parents. I'm getting strong each day and it helping me keep going on. The only cage I have right now is that Im still working in my dad company. This is something that sometimes make me want to drink to relief some pain. But I know I'm on my way to build my life outside here, just take some time... but getting action is also making me more confident.

3 - Is it about being single? This is something I have some difficult to solve in my mind... as I like the girl I'm with, I know I have the desire to have sex with other women. It's been a tricky thing to work out with myself.

What I most learned those days is that, even if you can't just get out of some supressions situations, I must learn to adapt and be strong to have energy to solve it. Like my job, I know what I want and I'm getting there... but this period until getting there I must be strong cause I can't just gave up on this job right now.

 

[Jager]

Thanks for your feedback!

About those topics:

2 - This is really important. I'm working on it pretty hard, and the most problem was my relationship with my parents. I'm getting strong each day and it helping me keep going on. The only cage I have right now is that Im still working in my dad company. This is something that sometimes make me want to drink to relief some pain. But I know I'm on my way to build my life outside here, just take some time... but getting action is also making me more confident.

3 - Is it about being single? This is something I have some difficult to solve in my mind... as I like the girl I'm with, I know I have the desire to have sex with other women. It's been a tricky thing to work out with myself.

What I most learned those days is that, even if you can't just get out of some supressions situations, I must learn to adapt and be strong to have energy to solve it. Like my job, I know what I want and I'm getting there... but this period until getting there I must be strong cause I can't just gave up on this job right now.

Being single, in itself, is not the center of the issue. The reason why most men hate their marriage is because he married her for validation, and to “nail her down, permanently his” kind of thing, then finds out the woman he married is actually an unstable, emotional train wreck that loses her sh!t without masculine influence and leadership. Leadership he doesn’t know how to provide, and he doesn’t even know where to start to regain masculinity. In fact, all he’d see is a woman he considers to be suddenly psycho, probably leave her. If he’s weaker still, he’ll stick around and get butchered by her, allowing himself to be manipulated. It’s the same thing in any other form of monogamy, in most cases, and in this civilization.

The central issue is that we men were wired to do badass sh!t. Wired to lead people, wired to give them hope and value. Give them a beacon of hope when things get bad. Focusing on women, and only women, is a betrayal of your purpose as a man, and on some level every man knows it. It’s giving up on your masculinity, focusing on value from others instead of yourself, the list goes on. It’s insanity. Men willingly throwing themselves on the chopping block for that little bit of validation in return. It’s weak and childish. THAT is the central issue.

 

[Blacksheep]

Being single, in itself, is not the center of the issue. The reason why most men hate their marriage is because he married her for validation, and to “nail her down, permanently his” kind of thing, then finds out the woman he married is actually an unstable, emotional train wreck that loses her sh!t without masculine influence and leadership. Leadership he doesn’t know how to provide, and he doesn’t even know where to start to regain masculinity. In fact, all he’d see is a woman he considers to be suddenly psycho, probably leave her. If he’s weaker still, he’ll stick around and get butchered by her, allowing himself to be manipulated. It’s the same thing in any other form of monogamy, in most cases, and in this civilization.

The central issue is that we men were wired to do badass sh!t. Wired to lead people, wired to give them hope and value. Give them a beacon of hope when things get bad. Focusing on women, and only women, is a betrayal of your purpose as a man, and on some level every man knows it. It’s giving up on your masculinity, focusing on value from others instead of yourself, the list goes on. It’s insanity. Men willingly throwing themselves on the chopping block for that little bit of validation in return. It’s weak and childish. THAT is the central issue.

That's true.

And it's a big challenge for all men to understand this and get more maturity about this subject. It's not easy.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I can't really relate to that. As I'm a very addictive personality, yet I absolutely must have good connections in all my relationships (friends, women, whatever). I personally find it completely lifeless and boring otherwise. It's why I've never been into the stoic stuff.

Seriously? Ltr's have curbed my more destructive side almost every time.

The assertion is that ltr's and marriage causes addiction? I just don't get the premise, and haven't encountered it. You might post some sort of thing relating to the claim. Ltr's (as long as it's been with a worthwhile person) do the opposite effect on me and other people that I know.

The power brokers or controllers assert LTR and reciprocal trust based relationship are "codependant". Keep in mind the power brokers have no actual power. They control and manipulate the power that is there. They want you plugged into a group think ideology which makes it easier to monitor and control you.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Who are the power brokers currently in your opinion?

Depends upon your environment. Just keep in mind they do not want trust and loyalty based male and female relationship. It goes against the narrative.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree. I see that as more of a feminist thing though.

It's why dating foreign gets a very easy higher quality.

I field tested thoroughly (according to research, more thoroughly than most men do in their entire lives) just the equality relationship stuff alone. Wasn't until my 20's that I dated foreign women (ironically based on leftist disintegration of our border). It really did open my eyes more than probably anything else.

Hence I put the power broker ideology stuff down to feminism and brainrot. But that's just my view based on my personal experiences in life.

Its a feminist and males who use the feminist as chess pieces to control men. Keep in mind it doesnt have to be a big guy. It can be a small or regular guy who supports the ability to control other men. He can be friends with the feminist woman cheating on her husband ir boyfriend and give strategy to upset, divert and to degrade him.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

These guys are the worst kind of gimps. But I'd say they aren't controlling anything.

Here's the thing that I've been experiencing. You have women in control and acting like complete b1tches - really out of order. They trample on guys that are male-feminists. Then the guys who are on the level, they try to control. They do it through playing the woman card. They like dominant males but try to control them. It's all a big game.

As I've known, best thing is to turn up in a social group, be a domineering prick, easily pick up a few girls, piss off all the gimp guys, care not for your social value, and then leave for the next social group. Hence meet-up groups and the like are great.

I even realized that when women say "daddy" during sex, they aren't calling me it. They are calling for their dad usually. It's a comfort thing based on sexual aggressiveness. It's the same comfort that the woman card affords these horrible (being honest for their behaviour) b1tches. Get sexual dominant males whilst getting beta comfort.

No hes gettimg his puzzy within the current parameters of our society.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

This hypothetical fellow is underselling himself, most surely then.

Single guy who realized most of the fvcking is other people gf and wives? Instead of complaining about it he thrives in current times.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I was at that particular place objectively even, was I not? It's meaningless tbh.

Depends on what you are after at the current time, and very dependent on particular life circumstances.

And I consider myself far better than ever what I was at this very current time.

Regarding complaining and thriving: under who's frame? I urge that you consider that. I thrived under a feminist western frame. How would that be considered in a Romani setting do you think? Do you reckon that there may be several other views? And who's is right?

Its just part of the discussion and one of the viewpoints. Another would be purpose with integrity. Another is MGTOW full and MGTOW with "safe sex". You can also live in the feminist perspectives which will leave men with cvcked and used.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

You are a good man, and a good poster. I completely accept that it's a viewpoint. Like I said, I lived it and posted like it for a few years. Literally lived it.

I'm just saying that it is a very one-sided viewpoint.

I actually accept the MGTOW viewpoint too and have stuck up for them on occasion. The times that I won't is when they cross the line into trying to dictate a set (which happens frequently based on little challenge these days). But I support them generally.

But I am half-romani. And let me tell you, that life is very different lol. It's a different frame entirely.

And I thrived in the feminist western frame, both as a teen f.ucking predominantly westerners, and in my 20's capturing loads of flags. Not sure what other experience anyone can ask for.

As I say, it's well beyond typical Romani attitudes. Lot's of different views of life.

But as we will take the feminist western frame that you have proposed for arguments sake (and is obviously the norm): native people are dying out in birth rates, it's completely unsustainable financially (figures that I've seen give it about 20 years at most), etc etc. A society killing itself. And yes, one can be an omega male (in the old sense, terms get changed every 5 seconds) just looking to get his. But I am part of a different culture which is quite simply better than this tbh. Naturally I'm going to have my head turned to consider multiple options. What's a lad to do right?

There's more than one view that gets put on here, trust me on that.

On the "good man"... Im ok. I like puzzy like the next hetero dude. Im just not going to scheme or backhand tactics to get it.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

I agree. I see that as more of a feminist thing though.

It's why dating foreign gets a very easy higher quality.

I field tested thoroughly (according to research, more thoroughly than most men do in their entire lives) just the equality relationship stuff alone. Wasn't until my 20's that I dated foreign women (ironically based on leftist disintegration of our border). It really did open my eyes more than probably anything else.

Hence I put the power broker ideology stuff down to feminism and brainrot. But that's just my view based on my personal experiences in life.

Brainrot... A man better respect it because they are very good at what they do. They are very political...

 

[Killakittie]

The bad relationship dynamic raises stress often to a critical amount and that stress triggers compulsive and addictive behaviors.

Can you elaborate on this further? I can kinda relate to this.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Can you elaborate on this further? I can kinda relate to this.

Its a known fact in the psychology world that stress causes triggering. Triggering can lead to eating when your not truly hungry or drinking or smoking. The trigger causes a compulsive reaction.

 

[Killakittie]

Its a known fact in the psychology world that stress causes triggering. Triggering can lead to eating when your not truly hungry or drinking or smoking. The trigger causes a compulsive reaction.

Is it safe to assume triggering can lead to dysfunctional behavioral patterns that persist after the stress that created them has diminished.

 

[mrgoodstuff]

Is it safe to assume triggering can lead to dysfunctional behavioral patterns that persist after the stress that created them has diminished.

For sure. When you stay in bad environments it can reshape your rebehavior. This is why some of us after having a bad relationship seem to keep doing them. Because first we attract it. The other part is your behavior can become adjusted.