Age May Matter for a Man when procuring young girls

[redskinsfan92]

A man's peak year for smv is his late 30s. Doesn't mean he will pull 19 year olds.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Shes right. Here are some stats:
Age difference in heterosexual married couples, 2013 US Current Population Survey[1]
Age difference Percentage of all married couples
Husband 20+ years older than wife
1.0
Husband 15–19 years older than wife
1.6
Husband 10–14 years older than wife
4.8
Husband 6–9 years older than wife
11.6
Husband 4–5 years older than wife
13.3
Husband 2–3 years older than wife
20.4
Husband and wife within 1 year
3 years older than wife
20.4
Husband and wife within 1 year
33.2
Wife 2–3 years older than husband
6.5
Wife 4–5 years older than husband
3.3
Wife 6–9 years older than husband
2.7
Wife 10–14 years older than husband
1.0
Wife 15–19 years older than husband
0.3
Wife 20+ years older than husband

So 7.4% of marriages the husband is 10+ yrs. And 19% husband is 6+ yrs.

That's marriage. Is marriage the goal around here? Certainly isn't for me.

 

[redskinsfan92]

of course it would be rude to ask lol. But how many middle aged men do people see dating and marrying 21 year old hotties? I don’t see that many.
People should be free to date and marry who they want to date and marry. I don’t care who dates who but I’m going by what I see. Sorry but to read it here in the mansophere it would appear that middle aged men are being chased down by hot collages aged students or feel they are entitled to them.
Now not saying that some aren’t being chased down but the average middle aged man isn’t, and there’s a lot more average middle aged men than there are middle aged men who are being chased by college aged hotties.

Most people, men and women, are average. There’s a lot of puffing up that happens online and not just on the mansophere. A one time platonic coffee date becomes a plate, that kind of thing.

If a 40 yr old man can attract young hotties that’s awesome, but he’s an exception, not the rule.

I have known many middle aged men having sexual relations with women in their 20s. Marriage was never the goal.

 

[redskinsfan92]

I would rather have a male boss for sure. Yeah that’s very true what you’re saying. Some exceptions of course. But men seem to be more laid back in leadership positions then women I find.

One draw back for polygamy would be the amount of men who would have no access to prime women. If we look at polygamy through the ages (the way I suspect men are thinking when they talk about bringing it back), the economy was much different, women had little to no access to resources and only a select group of privileged men had multiple wives and harems. The average man, which is the majority of men would not be one of those privileged men.

Back then there were less men because they died in battle. Today we have almost equal numbers in many counties with many countries actually having more men.

Let’s say we reverted things back to 700 yrs ago with the amount of men we have now. Prime women with would use their SMV to latch onto the richest men and join his harem of wives. That’s a lot of average men with no access to prime women to marry.

Look at Utah where polygamy occurs in the FLDS cults. In those communities it’s the select in group of old guys who collect the best of the women, and they drive out the young men as to make the choice for young women even more limited.

In places like Saudi Arabia where single average men have zero access to women and are basically discriminated against they turn to each other for sexual release and are prime candidates for terrorism recruitment.

So men don’t fair well with no access to women, just like women don’t fair well with no access to men. There’s a reason why we are drawn to each other, after all.

Women are already trying to latch onto the top 20%. Nothing about our instincts has changed. The hindrbrain operates as if it is still 1200 BC

 

[mrgoodstuff]

That's marriage. Is marriage the goal around here? Certainly isn't for me.

Its still relationships... In dating people will be even more risky than these stats.

 

[AJ84]

I have known many middle aged men having sexual relations with women in their 20s. Marriage was never the goal.

I’ve only know a few and yeah they weren’t looking for a husband.

 

[AJ84]

Women are already trying to latch onto the top 20%. Nothing about our instincts has changed. The hindrbrain operates as if it is still 1200 BC

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

 

[lamath]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

Same here i find it hard to believe.

Imo problem is that alot of younger guys in general lack the social skills and with the rape culture have been brainwash into being ashamed to be mens.

OLD might also be part of the problem, stats has been shown that women find only 20% of men attractive.

 

[redskinsfan92]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

80/20 rule

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[mrgoodstuff]

What male demographic makes up this 20%? Are we talking about pro-athletes, celebs, Silicon Valley millionaires? I’m not trying to be sarcastic I honestly want to know. Is there data on it?

The ones you mentioned are top 3%

 

[AJ84]

80/20 rule

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Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

 

[jimmy_scandal]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

 

[lamath]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

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I think that for a men to be attractive to a women its.more than physical attractivness, and that on OLD men are at a disadvantage. Some smv stuff cant be seen on a pic.
Some attractive men are not as aware about what kind of pic or description might make them more attractive to women. Men are overall behing women whith those subtle details that can make a big difference, also women spend alot more tine to get perfect profile pic



That 20/80 is probably correct for single ppl that are not in ltr.

However imo the total of ppl not having sex ltr included is alot closer than that.

 

[redskinsfan92]

Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

Rollo often links to data outside the manosphere. So, I linked you to one of his many articles.

Comparing the manosphere to feminists is comparing apples to oranges. Data inside the manosphere has often proved reliable. Especially from the PUAs as they go out and field test theories.

 

[AJ84]

This graph is from okcupid. Women rate 80% of men as below average in attractiveness (below 5/10).

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Thanks for the chart. For sure OLD is a woman’s market so definitely an inflated sense of their SMV as has been discussed here many times.

so the blue line represents the data of females sending males messages? Interesting that though they rate less men as most attractive, they are messaging more men than the percentage they find attractive. I wonder what the context of that is?
I would love to see what the favourable response rate is for women messaging the most attractive men. Like how many of these men message back an average looking woman?

 

[redskinsfan92]

Thanks for this but I’m wondering if there is data outside the manosphere? Sorry it’s not a dig at you but it would be like me giving you data from a feminist site lol. Both tend to be skewed imo.

I’m wondering what non gender biased data is out there. I can take a look I’m sure there’s something because I know that there’s a hierarchy of desirable men but I’m interested to know what the attributes are, what the percentage is and what the data is on women dating them to the exclusion of men outside that percentage.

Here is some info Rollo pointed out to me on Twitter a while back.

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

by Worst-Online-Dater

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He also has often shown data proving that women's peak SMV is in the early 20s and men's in the 30s.

 

[AJ84]

Rollo often links to data outside the manosphere. So, I linked you to one of his many articles.

Comparing the manosphere to feminists is comparing apples to oranges. Data inside the manosphere has often proved reliable. Especially from the PUAs as they go out and field test theories.

Feminists say and do and refer to ‘data and studies’ in the exact same manner, and they have been doing it for far far longer than the manosphere. There are many aspects of it that parallel feminist thought and approach.
And PUA’s usually post videos of success after how many failed attempts and there have been rumours that some hire women to pretend.
I’m not saying that everything in the manosphere is BS because it certainly isn’t, just like not everything in feminism is totally BS. However there is a lot of bias. And of course an agenda.

I tend to take both heavily one sided views with a grain of salt to be honest.

 

[AJ84]

Here is some info Rollo pointed out to me on Twitter a while back.

Tinder Experiments II: Guys, unless you are really hot you are probably better off not wasting your…

by Worst-Online-Dater

medium.com

He also has often shown data proving that women's peak SMV is in the early 20s and men's in the 30s.

Yeah I have heard this about Tinder before. I think, because it’s basically a hook up causal sex site, women will try to f**k a hot guy over trying to date a regular one.

think about it: if you know it’s just going to be about sex, would you choose average or try to land the hottest you can? That’s how a female will think. For Tinder I can definitely see women focusing on the top hottest guys if they can get them ( though those guys are just using them for sex).
This is not accomplishment for women at all. It’s kind of sad when some of them think it is.

 

[lamath]

Feminists say and do and refer to ‘data and studies’ in the exact same manner, and they have been doing it for far far longer than the manosphere. There are many aspects of it that parallel feminist thought and approach.
And PUA’s usually post videos of success after how many failed attempts and there have been rumours that some hire women to pretend.
I’m not saying that everything in the manosphere is BS because it certainly isn’t, just like not everything in feminism is totally BS. However there is a lot of bias. And of course an agenda.

I tend to take both heavily one sided views with a grain of salt to be honest.

Imo bias data.most of the time like this article
Poor women no men are financially stable enough for them.

Like the lack of financially stable men are affecting women the most. This is solipsism if i ever saw it.
What about those men that lost their purpose and cant perform in the feminist brainwash word.

US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests

Articles and videos about US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests on FOX 10 Phoenix.

www.fox10phoenix.com

 

[AJ84]

Imo bias data.most of the time like this article
Poor women no men are financially stable enough for them.

Like the lack of financially stable men are affecting women the most. This is solipsism if i ever saw it.
What about those men that lost their purpose and cant perform in the feminist brainwash word.

US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests

Articles and videos about US marriage rates may be dipping because of a shortage of financially stable men, study suggests on FOX 10 Phoenix.

www.fox10phoenix.com

Don’t even get me started on that one lol:

Makes 150k and brags that she don’t need no man’s money.

Won’t date a guy who makes less than her.

I‘m aware of that long establish hypocrisy. Knew a girl who worked in finance who didn’t want me to set her up with this male friend of mine because he was ‘just an electrician apprentice’ well jokes on her because two years later guess who makes twice as much as her? Lol and I set him up with a friend of mine who didn’t care that he was apprentice and they are married now Hahahaha