Really? That’s just who you are?

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Then I pity you my friend. You do not see what I see.

My sphere of influence grew large through the friendships I secured through my schooling years.

I have access to innumerable amounts of talents to call upon in times of need, from lawyers, to doctors, to head of police, to politicians, to MNC's owners, etc.

It grew because the origin of that influence was born in school and from there I knew more.

Trust is a valuable commodity when a boy is an adult.
All the friendships of value that I have came much later than school.
In fact, most of those were actually useless and held me back.
Most of those back in school, I left far behind. Way behind. I was making 100,000 grand a year by 25.
I had to work pretty long hours for that. I don’t have to work near that hard these days.

Schools didn’t educate me. I reject your pitty. LMAO

I already knew what I needed to know after 8th grade. BUT in your culture and growing up, I can totally see it. Like you, I’ve been to many countries. Most Men don’t get to be parents here. They are too passive and are pvssies.
If for one second that woman thought that man she was charged with reducing so he will continue to support her AND be a compliant pvssy was going to put his leadership over her manipulative teaching bull$hit, she would bolt in a heartbeat. Your son will grow up a stranger.
 
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Another topic. It’s fashionable to say “That’s just who I am.”
Really? That’s Who you are?

From birth til around 6or 7, we formulate a paradigm of who and what we are and how to survive, based solely on our environment. This is a very advantageous adaptation. Even in the womb, we are recording. This doesn’t really become apparent until we develop our primary language and are fully functional with it and it’s nuances.

If you are born in the desert, you are already partially ready to function and survive. After birth you learn from your environment by your parents and your culture.

This is where you are off the rails. Single moms and divorced moms are your social adaptations. You go to schools that are set up as indoctrination camps and social programming even further. You have been set up to fail. And you will if things are not corrected by you.

None of these things are actually you, but they guide your day to day life like a recording. This is why self help books are very minor to your paradigm shift to masculinity.
You can say one thing, but your actions, hidden agendas if you can call them that, are dictating your life. You are an automaton if effect.

Until you learn to catch these thoughts running through your mind, these feminine ideals and self minimizing thoughts and call them out, you will remain a man with feminine propensities.

There is some validity to zen, Buddhism, and other mindful practices through yoga (I’ve never done it) or meditation or any form or process that allows you to self examine your thoughts that drive your motives, stares and actions, you will remain an automaton for the social paradigm. You will work, suffer, and never see your drams and ideals unfulfilled.

This is the creepy old man who finally cashes in his chips at the end. An unfulfilled life.

You were born into a failing and decadent social structure. Confront that. I don’t give a fuk about the prevailing social structure or thought paradigm that exists today. Who the hell would care about a failed world ran by degenerates?
The Independent Baptists teach to spend time alone in prayer daily. This often results you going through and examining your every thought. You are supposed to have a "conversation with God." Not just list off a wish list snd go on with your day or recite a prayer from a book.
 

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Indoctrination of the young isn't irrelevant.

Yes. American public schools are is a sorry state, due to political indoctrination, mainly aimed against boys, particularly White boys.

Really, there's nothing taught in 12 years of standard schooling that an intelligent person couldn't master in 6mos of intensive study. It's mostly just a scheme to wharehouse kids, indoctrinate the young and impressionable ones, and keep the older ones out of the job market, for a few extra years.

We don't disagree on the importance of boys being around boys; we just disagree that school is the best or only place for that.

I don't even have a problem with school, per se. What I have a problem with is the extreme feminization of it, and that fathers aren't controlling it. A father should direct the education of his children -- whether directly, through tutors, through instructing a compliant wife, by selecting a suitable private school, of by controlling the curriculum of the local public school. Unfortunately, in America, local public schools are centrally controlled by the federal DOE and UNESCO.

If I had it my way, boys would attend school undistracted by girls. Half the curriculum would by athletics, and participation in combat sports would be mandatory, at all levels. All the teachers would be men.

As it is, keeping my children out of the public school was as much for me as for my kids. I really didn't want to be in constant battle with the school system over their rules, policies, and curriculum, which i already knew where diametrically opposed to my own instructions to my kids, particularly regarding fighting, about which I had always told them if anyone crossed the line with them to knock the other guy squarely on his ass, right then and there. No warnings. No going to the teacher. Public school was never gonna work for my kids(not in its modern incarnation), and the nearest suitable private school was a good drive.

Anyway, between sports and clubs, my kids never had a shortage of peers with whom to associate, and they've always been leaders, and quickly dominated their highschool, when we did finally send them to school. My oldest is a military officer, and his younger brothers seem headed in the same direction.

I can certainly understand why a divorced father, or one without a firm grip on his own household, wouldn't want his kids homeschooled. It isn't something everyone can or should do, especially not single mothers of boys(Norman Bates, anyone?).
I've said many times that what's being thought in lower education is irrelevant.

None of the boys would give a thought to it much less remember it.

It's like being born a Christian in Iran, from the moment of conception a cell is already bombast with Muslim prayer calls and as he grows up he is pressured or brainwashed from a young age to deny Christianity.

But yet they are still Christians in Iran and the Middle East even if they are greatly oppressed, for more then a thousand years.

My point is all these talk abt being brainwashed is useless when one is being guided by their fathers even if one enters an oppressive or brainwashing cult much less a public school.

That is why I said to you it's impossible for a tiger to produce a pathetic poodle.

If the father is the tiger then the son will also be a tiger.

The core value of a boy or a man = inherent personality trait (born either passive or dominant) + childhood upbringing.

To surpass his core values a man must undergo tremendous changes in his line of thinking to even surpress it to influence how he does things.

This is why many men here despite what I've teach or tell them they can't absorb it or even take it as offensive since they can't surpress their core value.

That's why they are stuck in a cycle, just different story with the same shiet each time.

You might think you did a good job but can you say the same for the rest of those home schooled boys?

Plus, can you truly say those fathers are qualified to teach?

A boy needs a village of men to teach them to grow into a proper man.

It's like Sosuave, there is a village of men here who can give advice but each one is uniquely different thus the wisdom one gains is plentiful. The same applies to schools.

I however do agree if a boy who does not do well nor thrive in such social settings be home schooled but those that would thrive should be allowed to do so.

The school is after all a training ground to level up since it mimics the real world when a boy goes out on his own = he is then better able to handle life.
 

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Another topic. It’s fashionable to say “That’s just who I am.”
Really? That’s Who you are?

From birth til around 6or 7, we formulate a paradigm of who and what we are and how to survive, based solely on our environment. This is a very advantageous adaptation. Even in the womb, we are recording. This doesn’t really become apparent until we develop our primary language and are fully functional with it and it’s nuances.

If you are born in the desert, you are already partially ready to function and survive. After birth you learn from your environment by your parents and your culture.

This is where you are off the rails. Single moms and divorced moms are your social adaptations. You go to schools that are set up as indoctrination camps and social programming even further. You have been set up to fail. And you will if things are not corrected by you.

None of these things are actually you, but they guide your day to day life like a recording. This is why self help books are very minor to your paradigm shift to masculinity.
You can say one thing, but your actions, hidden agendas if you can call them that, are dictating your life. You are an automaton if effect.

Until you learn to catch these thoughts running through your mind, these feminine ideals and self minimizing thoughts and call them out, you will remain a man with feminine propensities.

There is some validity to zen, Buddhism, and other mindful practices through yoga (I’ve never done it) or meditation or any form or process that allows you to self examine your thoughts that drive your motives, stares and actions, you will remain an automaton for the social paradigm. You will work, suffer, and never see your drams and ideals unfulfilled.

This is the creepy old man who finally cashes in his chips at the end. An unfulfilled life.

You were born into a failing and decadent social structure. Confront that. I don’t give a fuk about the prevailing social structure or thought paradigm that exists today. Who the hell would care about a failed world ran by degenerates?
Single mom's are stoned in the middle east. Much of the women in the west would be too. The entire Phenix movie portrays what a piece of **** single mom's are. The absolute pit of parasitic horse ****. If not for daddy government, the epidemic would have collapsed eons ago but garbage is perpetuated.
 

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Indoctrination of the young isn't irrelevant.

Yes. American public schools are is a sorry state, due to political indoctrination, mainly aimed against boys, particularly White boys.

Really, there's nothing taught in 12 years of standard schooling that an intelligent person couldn't master in 6mos of intensive study. It's mostly just a scheme to wharehouse kids, indoctrinate the young and impressionable ones, and keep the older ones out of the job market, for a few extra years.

We don't disagree on the importance of boys being around boys; we just disagree that school is the best or only place for that.

I don't even have a problem with school, per se. What I have a problem with is the extreme feminization of it, and that fathers aren't controlling it. A father should direct the education of his children -- whether directly, through tutors, through instructing a compliant wife, by selecting a suitable private school, of by controlling the curriculum of the local public school. Unfortunately, in America, local public schools are centrally controlled by the federal DOE and UNESCO.

If I had it my way, boys would attend school undistracted by girls. Half the curriculum would by athletics, and participation in combat sports would be mandatory, at all levels. All the teachers would be men.

As it is, keeping my children out of the public school was as much for me as for my kids. I really didn't want to be in constant battle with the school system over their rules, policies, and curriculum, which i already knew where diametrically opposed to my own instructions to my kids, particularly regarding fighting, about which I had always told them if anyone crossed the line with them to knock the other guy squarely on his ass, right then and there. No warnings. No going to the teacher. Public school was never gonna work for my kids(not in its modern incarnation), and the nearest suitable private school was a good drive.

Anyway, between sports and clubs, my kids never had a shortage of peers with whom to associate, and they've always been leaders, and quickly dominated their highschool, when we did finally send them to school. My oldest is a military officer, and his younger brothers seem headed in the same direction.

I can certainly understand why a divorced father, or one without a firm grip on his own household, wouldn't want his kids homeschooled. It isn't something everyone can or should do, especially not single mothers of boys(Norman Bates, anyone?).
Agreed. +1

We've had more than 3 generations of the cuck fest,girl power rubbish, and banished fatherhood. The joker movie comes at a time where incels are a issue. I heard post wall women laughing and having a field day with the goof that went gta and ran people over.The same women would be stoned in other parts of the world.

For a forum that pedals DJ and red pill, there's a lot of guys who suffer low testosterone and are delusional cucks. I saw a thread not long about a guy wanting yo watch his plate get banged out. The joker movie is the portrayal of female psychopathy and evil.

The book Alpha God is another low testosterone male feminist who argues girl power, female victimhood, and man is bad. At no stage does he point out female hypergamy and or female nature's prevalence for violent men (not less). Its cyclical.

There's a abundance of examples of female psychopathy. Cassey Anthony and karla homolka. One murders her daughter. The other murdersand rapes her sister along with her husband among other women. Her husband is rotting in jail as he should yet, she's free and was caught around school children. The series of rapey school teachers were women. She is a victim. Man is bad.

The origin story of the Joker in DC comics is shrouded in mystery. It is not hard to do the math. Look around at the **** hole society, at divorce rape, at cucking, and the series of behaviour in female nature that would have been weeded out of the gene pool in many parts of the world via stoning.

Even more alarming than the following is the pieces of **** that will defend female psychopathy here in the forums or irl. The daring to discuss or even call out female psychopathy is met with misogyny, bitter or some other rhetoric from a male feminist with really low testosterone and a inability to compete.

We're (in general, as a whole) simply not having the discussion. I blame low testosterone. The few who have the balls to make the call out are the outliers.

The joker and the lost Boys era is a by product of feminism, single moms,affirmative action, quota hirings, indoctrination in a education system that's anti male, slinging drugs adhd meds onto boys for not being a girl, brought up by womenwho are hard leftist, feminist, likely divorced and on the cawk carousel . The go to argument is man is bad and demonise masculinity. Promo for girl power. Mitigate declining SMV in women anti slut shame, proud single moms promo,pparade of free money to women and the extraction of male resources.

We are then surprised when the incel goes gta on the world in a mini van? Amber alert on a father who is divorce raped? Custody kidnapped.


There's no ambiguity. Lines are drawn. Either with you a man or against. There's no exception. The discussion must be had. Any and every cowardice cuck who fires off is against you as is any woman who holds ambiguity. Any time you speak your truth or don't, it's simping.

Men do. Any hesitation is cowardice. You see it in failed approaching. Not rejection. In the beta not approaching but has a theory on getting girls despite never seen a vagina before.
 
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I've said many times that what's being thought in lower education is irrelevant.

None of the boys would give a thought to it much less remember it.

It's like being born a Christian in Iran, from the moment of conception a cell is already bombast with Muslim prayer calls and as he grows up he is pressured or brainwashed from a young age to deny Christianity.

But yet they are still Christians in Iran and the Middle East even if they are greatly oppressed, for more then a thousand years.

My point is all these talk abt being brainwashed is useless when one is being guided by their fathers even if one enters an oppressive or brainwashing cult much less a public school.

That is why I said to you it's impossible for a tiger to produce a pathetic poodle.

If the father is the tiger then the son will also be a tiger.

The core value of a boy or a man = inherent personality trait (born either passive or dominant) + childhood upbringing.

To surpass his core values a man must undergo tremendous changes in his line of thinking to even surpress it to influence how he does things.

This is why many men here despite what I've teach or tell them they can't absorb it or even take it as offensive since they can't surpress their core value.

That's why they are stuck in a cycle, just different story with the same shiet each time.

You might think you did a good job but can you say the same for the rest of those home schooled boys?

Plus, can you truly say those fathers are qualified to teach?

A boy needs a village of men to teach them to grow into a proper man.

It's like Sosuave, there is a village of men here who can give advice but each one is uniquely different thus the wisdom one gains is plentiful. The same applies to schools.

I however do agree if a boy who does not do well nor thrive in such social settings be home schooled but those that would thrive should be allowed to do so.

The school is after all a training ground to level up since it mimics the real world when a boy goes out on his own = he is then better able to handle life.
Man, you lost this argument from the get go, yet your ego won't let you stop.

Why would I want to let some dumb 24 year old woman raise my kids with her beliefs? You realize that the child will spend the majority of their day around some dumb 24 year old liberal?

I agree with @samspade in that I don't have time to raise a kid, but if I did? You better believe that that kid would know more than most.

Our current economic system doesn't allow for home-schooling, as both parents typically have to work, but it was designed that way, grasshopper.

You've conveniently ignored every reference to organized sports. Which is where I learned how to win graciously and accept the inevitable defeat. They didn't teach that in grade school back in my day. And they sure don't now.
 

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You've conveniently ignored every reference to organized sports.
I’m going to have to agree with this. Emphatically.

There’s another point that is neglected here. Sure he doesn’t remember his early years. Yet this was where he was formed. The self talk and crap in his head when he talks to women come from this stage.
What he thinks about life and his environment comes from this stage.
 
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I’m going to have to agree with this. Emphatically.

There’s another point that is neglected here. Sure he doesn’t remember his early years. Yet this was where he was formed. The self talk and crap in his head when he talks to women come from this stage.
What he thinks about life and his environment comes from this stage.
Samspade made a good point, though. We were all raised in the public system, yet we made our own way. I think all smart people will, eventually
 

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I’m going to have to agree with this. Emphatically.

There’s another point that is neglected here. Sure he doesn’t remember his early years. Yet this was where he was formed. The self talk and crap in his head when he talks to women come from this stage.
What he thinks about life and his environment comes from this stage.
Team sport like hockey, football etc
Is imo one of the few place left where boys learn to be real man.
Not sure it will be like this for too long.
 
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Then again, the public school system has changed dramatically in the last 20 years.
 
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Team sport like hockey, football etc
Is imo one of the few place left where boys learn to be real man.
Not sure it will be like this for too long.
I agree. Though, baseball.

If a boy can learn how to win with modesty, and lose with respect, he's on the right path.
 

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I agree. Though, baseball.

If a boy can learn how to win with modesty, and lose with respect, he's on the right path.
More than that imo its the interaction with other boys, working together for a common goal, listening to the coach, hierarchical structure of the team etc
 
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Lock a genius in a room with a thousand morons for 12 years, and 9 times out 10, you'll just end up with a thousand and one morons....especially if our thousand and one subjects aren't even fully formed adults. I think survivors would have more company, if we each chose to withdraw our children from this particular experiment.
You mean the one where some b1tch in DC determines what your child will learn?
 

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It wasn't me. They tried to do it to me, too.

...and I didn't let them do it to my kids.
Very much so. I was told to give the answers they wanted to hear but stayed independent.
Even my mother told me this.

I didn’t give $hit about the plight of women and still don’t.
 
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Smart people will find a way to knowledge, as they have a passion for it. It's your every day dumb fvck that becomes a cog in the machine for 60 years. That's who we need to reach out to.
 
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