Really? That’s just who you are?

[Epic Days]

I am my son’s mentor. When they wanted to drug him, I yanked him out of public schools. I didn’t want to have to kill again.

That’s it in a nutshell. And it is all politically driven. Fortunately you and I aren’t going to school here, at this time.

You are correct, but it matters not. Not here.

 

[Spaz]

If all that were necessary for a robust masculine society were to send boys to school, then Western Civilization would be more robust and masculine than ever.

If sending boys to school were a necessary component in their development of masculinity, then they would be far more masculine than when school attendance was almost unheard of.

Schooling not only isn't the solution but is a major part of the feminization process. If the schools were directed by fathers, and if the sexes were taught seperately, and if athletics were mandatory, and competition encouraged, we would be talking about a completely different animal.

The real question is how bad do schools have to get before fathers will stop passively surrendering their sons to them? I believe, if you'll take a moment to honestly define your limits, you'll have to confront the fact that they were exceeded long ago.

You need to destroy this mindset.

You are still blaming the schools.

Teaching masculinity to one's sons has always been the domain of the father and his extended family (male).

A child can learn theories from a variety of scources, from school, Google, home schooling, maha gurus etc.

But they cannot learn to mingle, to cultivate friendship, to be highly competitive, etc....this requires a boy to mix around with his peers, often and on a consistent basis.

They only can get it from a school and not from any home.

A home schooled boy will grow up handicapped because he is denied this.

A child must not be overly protected.

 

[Epic Days]

just Giving young boys a basic education such as being able to read and write and understand mathematics and science, it sets him up to use his creativity to forge his way in the world.

Social schema and telling them what to think is something extra. As a military brat I grew up with pretty rough kids. Lived on both coasts twice and went to a lot of different schools. Probably the best thing you can do to a kid. He has to enter the different school groups as an outsider.

Athletics and competition channeled me. I learned as much or more from that. These schools had groups that had been going to school together since they were five years old. The outsider is suspect. In early grade school I went to one school where I was one of the few white kids enrolled. My dad taught me how to box. The better I got, the less I had to fight. Now that’s a lesson.

High school was baseball and football. It got me through two different high schools. Channeled me.
But there wasn’t as much garbage as there is now. A different time. It’s hard for me to imagine what young men have to go through now. I listened to some b!tch try to tell me about my son. Daughters have their troubles but they mold and are successful in modern schools because of this ability to mold. Boys do not. Once the boy starts molding his life is sent on a different tack. I give you the modern passive.

The overpowering inclination to please others to be accepted.

 

[Epic Days]

Today they would have had me medicated by Elementary School.

my point exactly. There were more male teachers back then as well

 

[Spaz]

I Must Destroy My Own mindset , that I came up with on my own? Your mindset isn't even your own. Yours is the prevailing mindset, with only a manosphere spin put on it. you are welcome to do whatever you choose. That's the point. But to insist that masculine Alliances can only be forged in the school system, which is a new creation, which recreates itself further and further left each generation, is to disregard the prior thousands of years of Western Civilization. Western civilization was built on the patriarchy which is currently demonized in our school systems. Your argument is no different from the leftist argument that the only way to properly socialize children is within the walls of the school system. please forgive me if I don't buy the same old crap in a slightly altered wrapper.

there certainly comes a time when we all must face the world naked and unafraid, but having your six-year-old boy lectured to about the fluidity of sexuality by twerking men in dresses is exactly the type of circumstances against which responsible dominant fathers are supposed to protect their sons.

tossing your son into the deep end of the pool, to sink or swim, is one thing, but tossing him off of the ass end of a freighter, into choppy shark infested waters, for his first swimming lesson, is just ****y fathering.

there is an extreme difference between attempting to permanently shelter your children from the craziness of the world, in the style of the movie The Village, and preparing them for it. Enrolling your 12 year old son in boxing is a good thing that a responsible father does. trying to get your 12 year old son a fight with the heavyweight champion of the world is stupid.

I'm not going to call any man a bad father for supporting the decision of his 22 year old son to become a priest. However, if any man thinks it's okay to ship his eight-year-old son off to the Vatican for altar boy camp, that father is in dire need of an intervention.

All this leftist mumbo jumbo in schools is pure insecurity, that kids will be suddenly brainwashed with political leanings. They couldn't be bothered.

If a Christian enters a Muslim school, they automatically become Muslims?

If a Muslim enters missionaries schools, they automatically turn into Christians?

The answer to both is a resounding NO. The proof is everywhere, from the middle east to Asia to Europe and even in the US.

Why should I or any man worry for his son to be schooled in any public or private institution?

It's impossible for a tiger to have whelp a pathetic poodle as his son.

But a little tiger that's caged (home schooled) aint going far when he's out in the concrete jungle....

 

[Epic Days]

All this leftist mumbo jumbo in schools is pure insecurity, that kids will be suddenly brainwashed with political leanings.

A parent can easily override these political things. After say 6 or 7 the damage from mommy and the school teachers are set. A man can still get out but there has to be something already inherently in him.

I’m in favor of a child not starting school until 6 years old. Maybe 7.
I knew a man who could read at three. Highly successful. The key here is that nobody evaluated the data for him. He was allowed to evaluate it for himself. A teacher should never have the authority to evaluate it for the student. This is where application can set in. He learns to apply it to his life and not the collective.

“The thrust of modern western education is to remove individuality and evaluate his place in the collective”

This is anti masculine.

 

[speed dawg]

We invented public schools to get kids the fùck out of the house. Kind of like men invented commerce to get away from their wives. It made sense for kids to stick around when we were an agrarian society and they could get to work plowing fields, but those days are gone. If I have kids I'm not going to "home school" them and neither is my theoretical wife. I barely remember algebra, that's someone else's job. Besides, if you home school them that basically means YOU are repeating school, which makes you a sucker. See you in 18 years.

I notice that you older guys consider it all a joke. I guess that's fine, because you can, you're older and don't GAF anymore.

Just know it's not a joke anymore. The stuff you posted above, however, is.

 

[Spaz]

So, biology determines everything in life? you should hurry up and go tell the social Engineers that they're wasting all their time and effort engineering our children then? and I guess a present dominant father doesn't really make a difference after all, if everything is determined by biology alone?

You're talked alot about the sad state of affairs in ur country schools.

This has nothing to do with what is originally posted.

I've consistently been saying that kids needs peer to peer stimulation in order to surpass their limits.

You in turn keep bringing irrelevant issues towards that.

 

[speed dawg]

I have problem Marx being taught as Marx. I know backwards and forwards, far better even the self-professed Marxists. In fact, few Marxists have ever even read Marx; if they had, they wouldn't be Marxists. The schools don't teach Marx as Marx, though; they teach Marxism by another name, usually "patriotism."

If you want to innoculate your kids against Marxism, you make them read Marx, and then discuss it with them....why Marx demonizes the middle class, and avoids even mentioning the aristocracy; why Marx creates the strawman of "Capitalism," and avoids any real discussion of free markets.

If you want your kids to understand trade and national wealth, you have them read Smith's 'Wealth of Nations', and discuss the merits of mercantilism and the role of "free trade" in the pillaging of national wealth.

If you want your kids to understand why America allied itself with Communist Russia in WW2, and provoked Japan into conflict, instead of letting Japan and Germany crush the international Communist threat, and dealing with a the fallout, you might them to read Skousen and Sutton, and to understand that the FDR administration propped up the fledgling USSR, while it was simultaneously confiscating gold from Americans, right down to their wedding bands.

If you want your kids to understand Hitler's fixation on "The Jews," you will probably want them to read 'Mein Kampf', and to discuss with them why Hitler blamed them for international communism and the erosion of nationalism, and whether a man who allied himself with racially diverse nations was truly the blindly hateful xenophobe he's made out to be.

Man I'm with you. I'd take further into religion. My kids are all going to read the Bible and the Koran. They will also be taught about evolution, Buddhism and Hinduism.

 

[speed dawg]

I've consistently been saying that kids needs peer to peer stimulation in order to surpass their limits.

Homeschooled kids gets plenty of this. Outside the modern school dungeon.

The whole public school system was founded on Weimar Republic bullcrap. The schedule is based on female's maturation.

 

[Spaz]

A parent can easily override these political things. After say 6 or 7 the damage from mommy and the school teachers are set. A man can still get out but there has to be something already inherently in him.

I’m in favor of a child not starting school until 6 years old. Maybe 7.
I knew a man who could read at three. Highly successful. The key here is that nobody evaluated the data for him. He was allowed to evaluate it for himself. A teacher should never have the authority to evaluate it for the student. This is where application can set in. He learns to apply it to his life and not the collective.

“The thrust of modern western education is to remove individuality and evaluate his place in the collective”

This is anti masculine.

The most damage a young boy can get is from his own father who allows his mother unrestricted power over his bloodline.

Female schools teachers then would reaffirmed it.

And the impact will be lifelong.

In the end, the man must take responsibility and not lay blame on anyone else.

 

[Epic Days]

This is a good point. I went to a Catholic high school. We had Jews and Protestants and they made it out with their faiths intact. Or I suppose if they questioned anything, it wasn't to convert to Catholicism.

Everyone American I know is a product of its public school system (myself included, pre-h.s.) and we can all think for ourselves and question the teachings of others.

The key is as a parent not to rely on school for parenting.

I also didn’t care about religion or even politics myself Sam. Those things really didn’t matter. I just didn’t wan to be part of their $hit show. I couldn’t wait to get out of there and do cool things. I have plenty of scars and stitches. Lol
I wouldn’t trade them for anything.

I taught my son how to kill $hit and eat it. I taught him real things. Things that a man can use to get ahead and tackle things that cause fear.

The only purpose of school is to give a basic education to use to forward his own life. Not a collective mass of spoiled and unable beings demanding to be cared for. That is the product of a collective.

Men are single points of light. Individual beings who can give allegiance and also remove allegiance at will. Dismissing a woman is an example of this.

 

[Spaz]

This is a good point. I went to a Catholic high school. We had Jews and Protestants and they made it out with their faiths intact. Or I suppose if they questioned anything, it wasn't to convert to Catholicism.

Everyone American I know is a product of its public school system (myself included, pre-h.s.) and we can all think for ourselves and question the teachings of others.

The key is as a parent not to rely on school for parenting.

Parenting boys is always the fathers job.

A boy doesn't need a mother's teachings after 5 years old, this is when their fathers are supposed to instill in them their faith, culture, manly code of conduct, etc.

 

[Epic Days]

The most damage a young boy can get is from his own father who allows his mother unrestricted power over his bloodline.

Female schools teachers then would reaffirmed it.

And the impact will be lifelong.

In the end, the man must take responsibility and not lay blame on anyone else.

We are in agreement. It is important for a boy to know his enemy.

 

[Epic Days]

Parenting boys is always the fathers job.

A boy doesn't need a mother's teachings after 5 years old, this is when their fathers are supposed to instill in them their faith, culture, manly code of conduct, etc.

The most important part of this whole thread. I can get mad when I think about the things his mother tried to teach him. Absolute garbage.
She accuses me of stealing her son. You god damn right I did.

 

[Spaz]

We are in agreement. It is important for a boy to know his enemy.

So you now understand.

A boy must be thrown into a group of males to test his skills that he has learnt from his own father.

Even if you don't teach him out loud, a young boy automatically learns from his father by observation, a young boys mind is growing at an incredibly rate and he will selfishly absorb everything from his father who he secretly admires or hates.

Since his father can't be his enemy nor his friend then he must be with his peers to surpass his limitations.

That's why schools are important for young boys.

 

[Epic Days]

So you now understand.

A boy must be thrown into a group of males to test his skills that he has learnt from his own father.

Even if you don't teach him out loud, a young boy automatically learns from his father by observation, a young boys mind is growing at an incredibly rate and he will selfishly absorb everything from his father who he secretly admires or hates.

Since his father can't be his enemy nor his friend then he must be with his peers to surpass his limitations.

That's why schools are important for young boys.

I never didn’t understand. We are in agreement in this except for the schools. Nearly all my interactions of value came after school. I don’t even remember half of that garbage because I knew where I was going and past 13 or 14 it was about getting the fuk out of there. They couldn’t help me any longer. Their value decreased to nothing. I was reading full novels by the time I was 12. I read James Michener’s “the source” at 13.
NOT paying attention in school actually saved my a$$.
I didn’t believe in them. A 4 year bachelors degree should take less than two years. In fact, any education after that is useless if you know how to think. The most successful entrepreneurs in history didn’t have college or dropped out.

Schools cannot tell you who you are. But they are skilled at convincing you to be something you are not.

 

[speed dawg]

I never didn’t understand. We are in agreement in this except for the schools. Nearly all my interactions of value came after school. I don’t even remember half of that garbage because I knew where I was going and past 13 or 14 it was about getting the fuk out of there. They couldn’t help me any longer. Their value decreased to nothing. I was reading full novels by the time I was 12. I read James Michener’s “the source” at 13.
NOT paying attention in school actually saved my a$$.
I didn’t believe in them. A 4 year bachelors degree should take less than two years. In fact, any education after that is useless if you know how to think. The most successful entrepreneurs in history didn’t have college or dropped out.

Schools cannot tell you who you are. But they are skilled at convincing you to be something you are not.

Exactly. Not sure why Spaz is still stuck on schools as the only (or even the main) way to accomplish this. It's a faulty premise from the beginning.

Sports, military, etc. are much better ways to do this. I could see one of those all boys schools for high school maybe.

 

[Spaz]

I never didn’t understand. We are in agreement in this except for the schools. Nearly all my interactions of value came after school. I don’t even remember half of that garbage because I knew where I was going and past 13 or 14 it was about getting the fuk out of there. They couldn’t help me any longer. Their value decreased to nothing. I was reading full novels by the time I was 12. I read James Michener’s “the source” at 13.
NOT paying attention in school actually saved my a$$.
I didn’t believe in them. A 4 year bachelors degree should take less than two years. In fact, any education after that is useless if you know how to think. The most successful entrepreneurs in history didn’t have college or dropped out.

Schools cannot tell you who you are. But they are skilled at convincing you to be something you are not.

Then I pity you my friend. You do not see what I see.

My sphere of influence grew large through the friendships I secured through my schooling years.

I have access to innumerable amounts of talents to call upon in times of need, from lawyers, to doctors, to head of police, to politicians, to MNC's owners, etc.

It grew because the origin of that influence was born in school and from there I knew more.

Trust is a valuable commodity when a boy is an adult.

 

[Spaz]

Exactly. Not sure why Spaz is still stuck on schools as the only (or even the main) way to accomplish this. It's a faulty premise from the beginning.

Sports, military, etc. are much better ways to do this. I could see one of those all boys schools for high school maybe.

You couldn't because you didn't benefit from it hence ur current perception.