For years and years I've asked people, men with success and women how to write a first message on online dating.
As you know you can write anything.
Twice now on online dating websites many women looked at my profile and decided not to reply to my first message. It's very frustrating.
Nothing wrong with my photos.
This is what I've put on my profile, on the about me, describe me section on both of these online websites:
My family and friends would describe me as warm, ambitious, x y a individual.
My interests and hobbies include going to the cinema x y z.
If you would like to get to know me feel free to message me.
What is wrong here?
Are you going for the top 20% of women you see? The hot chicks whom every other man makes a bee-line for?
Good luck if you are. OLD is only good if A. You’re a complete alpha beast looking for fvcks, or B. In the 98% of other men, BUT willing to look outside the 20% as you’re looking for a genuine relationship.
In my 20s I found OLD impossible. I tried hard to compete with men I just couldn’t compete with and never could, neither could most men.
When I got to 35 and I was like “I am getting to the point where I no longer care about multiple fvcks and I just want a GF and potential wife” I did just fine!
I got rid of my pics of me looking “cool”, at the gym, bit of mediocre bicep, picture of me on the decks etc, and dressed in suits, shirts, good watch, just kind of solid man game and I had plenty of replies. I also stopped chasing girls who clearly set up their profiles to attract men on a sexual level overtly. This is what I got:
1. National manager of a clothing brand. 30ish, didn’t look that hot but met her in major cities when her work took her there and she was a complete freak, long split skirt, nights drinking and screwing till 4am.
2. Artist and shirt story writer. Bit of a dud in the sack but a very interesting couple of months dating.
3. A couple of annoying b1tches didn’t go beyond date one. Basic Starbucks girls, still, never would have gone for my old “fake alpha” profile.
4. My current wife who is carrying my child currently.
My main mistake was to think you can ape the real alphas who can literally fvck anything. This is a lifelong thing and trying to be something you aren’t is painful and they can smell it miles off.
Believe it or not, not all women want this. Does Every man want an instagram model? I wouldn’t. Divorce awaits. Fending off men awaits. I’d rather a simple, homely girl who isn’t flashing her sh1t online to everyone.
When I was younger I did.
I know this is a forum for banging hot ch1cks, if anything I’m agreeing with a lot of folks on here, if you want multiple lays, listen to them. I don’t know Jack sh1t about bagging model standard girls, as I haven’t wanted that for years.
However, I got laid quite a lot, even before this, mainly through just going out drinking a lot. And I got laid quite a few times online, but only when I stopped trying to hard and just put up what was more “me”
I do think trying to be an alpha is worse than just being what you are. Chicks can smell that lack of success.
So if you’re wondering what to say, or what to write, you’re doing it wrong. Have fun with it,
Let your imagination run and don’t give a sh1t what they think of you. Even if you don’t get any, it’s still better to retain your self respect rather than be trapped in a game you don’t know how to play