Those women that brought us here just know.........

[soulforge]

What if you put your foot down and they don't dump you? My experience in LTRs is when you make a lot of women put their money where their mouth is so to speak they typically back way off because they are more scared to be "alone" than men are generally. We provide a huge sense of security to a woman. The problem is if these women are testing your boundaries to the extent you have to threaten a break up to make them behave (usually on a very temporary basis by the way in my experience), there is something fundamentally wrong with them. Not worth it.

And you nailed it with the breakup "horror stories." I am sure we are all monsters according to our exes.

Never met a single woman yet.. That ever confessed that she was the cause of the relationship turning into a turd.

Always it was her terrible ex!

 

[RangerMIke]

I believe, and you've said before, you can't control a woman. If she wants to cheat she will cheat. But this leads me to a bunch of roughly formulated, brainstormed questions in this scenario:

1. How do you know if she is actually looking to cheat here (whether consciously or subconsciously on her part)? Is it that it would never occur to her to do a thing like that trip otherwise? Or is it the disrespect itself, and if so, how do you know she is being intentionally disrespectful or does it not matter?

2. Would you handle her trip by telling her it's disrespectful and stay with her if she doesn't do it, or would you leave her whether she does it or not? And in relation to #1, if you tell her it's disrespectful and she doesn't do it, won't she just now cheat at home if that's what she wanted meaning you still can't stay with her?

My final point where these questions lead is this: it just seems untenable to stay with her if she disrespects you, but at the same time you don't necessarily want to dump a woman who had no conscious or subconscious intention of cheating or disrespecting you. How can you tell the difference between these? Would you say this is the point where each man has to decide for himself, or is there something you've seen to be true and would recommend?

I've never been in a relationship so never had to face these thoughts and choices.




I would like a thread to be started on this kind of topic. I would do it myself but as I haven't been in a relationship, I can't.

For me it's not about the cheating or potentially cheating, though if you think your relationship chick headed off the Europe on a month long vaca with her girlfriends she wasn't going to cheat if giving the chance then an assessment of knowledge about female nature is needed.

For me it's about leaving for a month while the dude stays home and works. If this chick really cared about her man, she would not just leave him to work while she danced off the Europe. If she cared about him she would have waited until he had time off and they could both go together. She wouldn't want to do anything without him. If I had a relationship chick and she tried to do that, I would just look at it for what it is... flagging interest and just end things.

In this case, I suspect that he'd been giving into her for so long, she just too it for granted that she could just walk all over him... because he let her. I really don't know if he actually cheated on her... in fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if she had... then came back and accused him of doing what she'd been doing for a month. I have seen chicks do this frequently... they are cheating so they assume her SO is cheating as well, because nothing can actually be her fault. She cheated because he's cheating.

The simple truth is most married guys do not cheat... they can't because they are too fvcking tired working and dealing with his wife. My God, when I was married I never cheated... NEVER, in fact it was 6 months after my divorce that I actually started dating again. I'm really not sure when I would have had the time to do this... really, I'm serious. Between dealing with the ex, the kids, work, and the house I hardly had anytime to do anything else accept sleep.

 

[soulforge]

Got a message from an ex of 3 years ago last night.

Some dumb ass youtube video that we used to watch together.

I just ignored the shyte out of her.. She looks old and tired..

Where as I am looking fitter than ever!

 

[Robert28]

Got a message from an ex of 3 years ago last night.

Some dumb ass youtube video that we used to watch together.

I just ignored the shyte out of her.. She looks old and tired..

Where as I am looking fitter than ever!

Well yeah, Chad no longer hits on her so she wants to see if she can make herself feel good by getting some compliments and good feelings from you. She sees your improvement and wants to know if she’s still got it or not. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with you, it’s an ego thing with her and all women for that matter.

 

[soulforge]

Well yeah, Chad no longer hits on her so she wants to see if she can make herself feel good by getting some compliments and good feelings from you. She sees your improvement and wants to know if she’s still got it or not. Has absolutely NOTHING to do with you, it’s an ego thing with her and all women for that matter.

Mate i have hardly aged.. My diet is fantastic. I live and breath the gym... I am age 45 but don't look a day over 35...

Have a strong muscular frame.. That ex monkey branched.. And now she is on her own and lonley.

How much validation am i about to give her? Zero!

 

[AttackFormation]

For me it's not about the cheating or potentially cheating, though if you think your relationship chick headed off the Europe on a month long vaca with her girlfriends she wasn't going to cheat if giving the chance then an assessment of knowledge about female nature is needed.

For me it's about leaving for a month while the dude stays home and works. If this chick really cared about her man, she would not just leave him to work while she danced off the Europe. If she cared about him she would have waited until he had time off and they could both go together. She wouldn't want to do anything without him. If I had a relationship chick and she tried to do that, I would just look at it for what it is... flagging interest and just end things.

In this case, I suspect that he'd been giving into her for so long, she just too it for granted that she could just walk all over him... because he let her. I really don't know if he actually cheated on her... in fact I wouldn't be at all surprised if she had... then came back and accused him of doing what she'd been doing for a month. I have seen chicks do this frequently... they are cheating so they assume her SO is cheating as well, because nothing can actually be her fault. She cheated because he's cheating.

The simple truth is most married guys do not cheat... they can't because they are too fvcking tired working and dealing with his wife. My God, when I was married I never cheated... NEVER, in fact it was 6 months after my divorce that I actually started dating again. I'm really not sure when I would have had the time to do this... really, I'm serious. Between dealing with the ex, the kids, work, and the house I hardly had anytime to do anything else accept sleep.

Yeah, trying to see and feel things out of her perspective i cant imagine a woman who actually wants to be with a man doing so. Respect aside, because most of all she would just not want to do it in the first place, as you said.

In fact i talked to my brother's gf just now. He and her always traveled together. I cant imagine either of them would want to travel without the other, especially not so long, unless the relationship was already flatlined. The only girl i can think of who travelled down to Spain with just a girl friend while she had her current boyfriend, back when we were teens i walked in on her riding another guy while her previous bf (soft, sappy beta - even I could sense that at the time, and it was like she targeted those guys for boyfriends) sat at home waiting for her lol.

I think the guy might know this at heart, but little by little over time, imperceptibly from his own daily experience he gets more complacent and enabling. That then mixes with his acute sense of scarcity, which makes him unwilling to admit it even if he could notice it.

 

[Robert28]

Mate i have hardly aged.. My diet is fantastic. I live and breath the gym... I am age 45 but don't look a day over 35...

Have a strong muscular frame.. That ex monkey branched.. And now she is on her own and lonley.

How much validation am i about to give her? Zero!

You sound like me! I’m 37 and still turn heads of girls in their early to mid 20’s more than I did when I was in my 20’s lol Women my age hate me.

 

[soulforge]

You sound like me! I’m 37 and still turn heads of girls in their early to mid 20’s more than I did when I was in my 20’s lol Women my age hate me.

Thats good man.. I think fitness and gym has worked wonders for me.

In my 20's i was actually a heavy smoker.. I was totally out of shape & low esteem.

Since i made fitness my lifestyle, everything CHANGED for the better.

My confidence went through the roof.. Even helped me do waaaaay better in my career.

The only thing that is going BAD for me is... I keep attracting hoes lol... Fukin slvts

I'm attracted to their slvty kinky nature haha

We need quality woman in our lives bro.. These damaged types should only be pump and dump... NEXT

Keep hitting the gym Mate!

 

[soulforge]

People’s stories, not just Women’s, are a reflection of how they treat themselves. When you are hear stories about how her ex was treating her so badly, you are really hearing about how about she was treating herself so badly. After all, people can only treat you badly if you allow them to. Generally, the onus will often fall upon the treatee not the treator (assuming the treatee is of sound mind, age, and not forced).

A person generally betrays themselves long before they were betrayed. The betrayal is simply a physical manifestation of one’s inner lack or deficiency.

That’s why it’s a red flag when a girl complains about her “evil” ex bf, as it was never really about him but rather about her and her lack which facilitated her to continually accept such mistreatment.

Also men, the same applies to YOU. When you are sharing stories about how your ex was doing you wrong, you are really demonstrating how you betrayed yourself. So the next time you want to point out toward the girl, take a deeper look within to observe your own lack (of sovereignty) which allowed her to treat you in such a way while you stayed.

Guru these are truly fantastic words.

These days I don't let a woman step out of place at all.. If she does.. Then I simply drop her azz from a great height.

However in the past.. I had a couple of toxic relationships.. And I actually blame myself for them.

NO woman can treat you like shyte.. Unless you allow her to do so.

It simply boils down to a matter of self respect.

 

[SoSuave666]

The women that brought you here ain’t ****. I’m disappointed in you @Glassguy for replying in such a way.

 

[SoSuave666]

Thats good man.. I think fitness and gym has worked wonders for me.

In my 20's i was actually a heavy smoker.. I was totally out of shape & low esteem.

Since i made fitness my lifestyle, everything CHANGED for the better.

My confidence went through the roof.. Even helped me do waaaaay better in my career.

The only thing that is going BAD for me is... I keep attracting hoes lol... Fukin slvts

I'm attracted to their slvty kinky nature haha

We need quality woman in our lives bro.. These damaged types should only be pump and dump... NEXT

Keep hitting the gym Mate!

How old are you?

 

[soulforge]

How old are you?

I'm 45 Mate.. Most of my life i have been the good guy... Considerate.. Compassionate..

Until i took the red pill.. Now i just want to treat them all like slvts.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I think we all have that one or two women that brought us to google, searching for "how to handle a breakup" or something similar.

Most longer term posters on here know my story from past posts. Married at 26, divorced at 35, played hard but ended up in a relationship that lasted nearly 3 years and turned into an engagement. Then we broke up.

The divorce was a little bumpy, but I knew it was the right thing to do, and something that I had to do given the circumstances of her infidelity.

The post divorce relationship/engagement/break up was hard. I just felt like we REALLY meshed well on all levels. That was much tougher for some reason to plow through, but I found greener pastures and started dating A LOT and eventually built a solid rotation. So that is where I am today.

However, those women (or woman) that truly brought us here do silly things. I havent talked to the last one in over a year. She reached out when my dad passed away last July. Then she reached out a month or so later just to follow up to see how I was doing. I really didnt think too much about it because my mind was still in a weird place, as should be normal after losing a parent. I took it as respectfulness from her if nothing else. Then she reached out a month or so later. It was a little more laid back, fun text, but I cut it off and didnt let it go anywhere. She has been seeing a guy for the last couple of years. I have no idea of the value of their relationship because I never cared. I do know that he likes to drink a lot and they have had an on again off again type of relationship. I have always been a love them and leave them type of guy. Once its over, its over.

But those women know how to make the thoughts hazy and get the emotions swirling.

I got a random text from her this afternoon. Basically letting me know that her dog (that we bought together at the time) has some type of disease and she was making more of a joke about it than anything.

My first thought was to send back "what does your bf think about it?". But I see her parents on a very consistent basis at our golf club, so I just kept it as one or two word responses.

I wont break frame.

Not looking for advice on how to handle it because I know how to handle it. I just think its weird that they can sense when things are going really well and then they throw a text our way................................

Carry on!

I met a few random mercenaries in Ibiza on spring break. 7 day vaca and playboy crushed 2 dozen women.

We met up after a drink at the bar. He said we were pulling that night. I got to the lobby of the hotel, this cheeky **** had three airport mini van taxis stuffed full of women. I got in with my mate and playboy started doing intros. The taxi cab then tried to kick us out as we're beyond capacity.

Playboy responds, "alright girls. Outoof the cab." the girls followed his lead and the taxi man begged and apologized.

At the club, playboy was there 15min before walking out with two stunners. It was at this point, i revalued my approach to game.

For me, I never started off the process because of any one girl. It was hilarious. I just wanted all of them better put, girls around 18-23. Tomorrow, someone else is turning 18. Feels good man.

 

[guru1000]

I met a few random mercenaries in Ibiza on spring break. 7 day vaca and playboy crushed 2 dozen women.

We met up after a drink at the bar. He said we were pulling that night. I got to the lobby of the hotel, this cheeky **** had three airport mini van taxis stuffed full of women. I got in with my mate and playboy started doing intros. The taxi cab then tried to kick us out as we're beyond capacity.

Playboy responds, "alright girls. Outoof the cab." the girls followed his lead and the taxi man begged and apologized.

At the club, playboy was there 15min before walking out with two stunners. It was at this point, i revalued my approach to game.

For me, I never started off the process because of any one girl. It was hilarious. I just wanted all of them better put, girls around 18-23. Tomorrow, someone else is turning 18. Feels good man.

Deezed, I liked your post because you have shown humility and authenticity. This makes you appear authentic in your message as it came from your own genuine experience. Keep this writing style.

 

[Glassguy]

The women that brought you here ain’t ****. I’m disappointed in you @Glassguy for replying in such a way.

WTF are you talking about?

 

[Dash Riprock]

Mate i have hardly aged.. My diet is fantastic. I live and breath the gym... I am age 45 but don't look a day over 35...

Same here. I'm 100% convinced I've greatly slowed the aging process through my workout and diet routine. People are floored when I tell them my real age.

 

[soulforge]

Same here. I'm 100% convinced I've greatly slowed the aging process through my workout and diet routine. People are floored when I tell them my real age.

Totally mate.. Its like i just stopped ageing much.

I look max in my mid 30s.. Which means i can easily aim for the younger chicks outhere.

I've consistantly had a good diet and worked out from age 30 onwards.

Plus i don't smoke.. Its amazing how many years you put on as a smoker.. Combine that with bad diet.

Also guys... Cardio.. Runnning will do you a huge world of good.

Don't just focus on lifting heavy weights.. Think about the strain you are putting on yourself as you get older.

 

[SoSuave666]

WTF are you talking about?

Your reply to her shows validation. I’m disappointed in you for doing that.

 

[Glassguy]

Your reply to her shows validation. I’m disappointed in you for doing that.

My reply shows nothing. I dont search for your approval and I handled the situation the way I wanted. That is frame.

So go pound rocks if you think you're going to critique how I handle my business.

 

[GunShow85]

When I go out I see guys mostly interacting and bonding with other guys and women sitting uselessly staring into space expecting something exciting to happen to them.

And when I see guys hitting on women, 95% of the time, the guy is just entertaining them.

So true. If you look at any couples dinner or guys at the bar, it is always the guys entertaining the girls and sharing the interesting stories, etc. The guys are telling funny stories and doing fun things while the girls just sit there.

On couples trips, it always the guys doing fun things and bonding. When left alone the girls just sit there staring into space.

Ever look at pictures from girls trips, they do such boring stuff without men around. We toured a vineyard, read a long book by the pool, and went shopping for scarfs. I hear them say it was boring afterwards. The highlight of their "girls trips" are when they hang out with fun guys. Left out of her story is the part where they met these guys and took shots dancing on the bar, got on their boat and cliff jumped into the lake and skinny skied at night.

I feel like entertaining girls is most of game. Even in college, girls wanted the fraternity guys with the best parties, funniest costumes, nicest cars, silly/fun behavior, etc.... which is essentially being entertained. It seems physical looks is a good start, but the entertaining personality is deeper attraction.

I imagine hot girls are also very used to being entertained by guys and that a lot of them don't develop their own jokes, personality, etc. Even in 5th grade, the hot girls are constantly entertained by fun guys in class, hallways, etc. so they don't have to develop their own sense of entertainment.

I think important to show a girl a good time and make her laugh.