Lowering standards for release.

[user43770]

They’re not fake individuals. They are financially successful and do business with high profile individuals to whom they leverage as social proof.

One can say social proof in itself is fake as it fails to describe the individual outside of the social group. Irregardless, social proof is effective. Results in your desire (as long as you are not hurting others in the process) is what matters. All other reasoning to the contrary are ego rationals and thus excuses to fail.

I reckon it depends on how bad you want to get laid.

I could definitely pull more women if I created a Facebook, Instagram and Snapchat. I get that. I choose not to.

From my experience, the extra lays weren't worth the added burden. That is, the constant distraction of it all. I was less happy when I had social media.

 

[guru1000]

No offense, but I think that anyone with a social media presence is insecure, unless for business marketing. I'm obviously a weird guy in that regard, but I'm comfortable with it.

To be clear, I don’t have social media. But I definitely would if I chose to, and not because some men in some region say it’s insecure (without rationale) to have a social media presence.

The deeper problem I have here with our discussion is your hidden narrative, which is:

“ If you’re not genetically blessed, then accept your lot, and don’t go after the women you truly want.”

This is wrong on many levels but I’ll keep it simple: walk out of your house and into any venue where there are model-type women, and you will see these women with men who are not genetically blessed. History is also replete with countless examples.

So you take your, “I will stay in my own lane but thank you” narrative and push it here, so some young men who have potential to be whoever they want to be can naively buy it and live their life handcuffed in squashed potential.

 

[user43770]

One can say social proof in itself is fake as it fails to describe the individual outside of the social group.

That's exactly how I feel. I hate being around most people. I'm in leadership at my job, and with any woman I meet, so I try to avoid people the rest of the time. Work takes it out of me, women make me go crazy.

I'm an introvert. Fvck all this noise. Life is for pvssies.

 

[lamath]

To be clear, I don’t have social media. But I definitely would if I chose to, and not because some men in some region say it’s insecure (without rationale) to have a social media presence.

The deeper problem I have here with our discussion is your hidden narrative, which is:

“ If you’re not genetically blessed, then accept your lot, and don’t go after the women you truly want.”

This is wrong on many levels but I’ll keep it simple: walk out of your house and into any venue where there are model-type women, and you will see these women with men who are not genetically blessed. History is also replete with countless examples.

So you take your, “I will stay in my own lane but thank you” narrative and push it here, so some young men who have potential to be whoever they want to be can naively buy it and live their life handcuffed in squashed potential.

You think those men get those women wet as very good looking one would?

Those to men seems to be the sugar daddy or provider type

 

[user43770]

To be clear, I don’t have social media. But I definitely would if I chose to, and not because some men in some region say it’s insecure (without rationale) to have a social media presence.

The deeper problem I have here with our discussion is your hidden narrative, which is:

“ If you’re not genetically blessed, then accept your lot, and don’t go after the women you truly want.”

This is wrong on many levels but I’ll keep it simple: walk out of your house and into any venue where there are model-type women, and you will see these women with men who are not genetically blessed. History is also replete with countless examples.

So you take your, “I will stay in my own lane but thank you” narrative and push it here, so some young men who have potential to be whoever they want to be can naively buy it and live their life handcuffed in squashed potential.

I never said that I don't try to punch above my weight class, for all the readers, just that I'm not an unrealistic blowhard. By all means, get out there and try.

There are a bunch of posters running around with the "build it and they will come" approach, which I think is hurting new posters.

 

[user43770]

@guru1000 but if you give me some new-age, the world is your oyster bullsh1t, I'll call you out, too.

 

[guru1000]

You think those men get those women wet as very good looking one would?

Those to men seems to be the sugar daddy or provider type

I’d say depends on the woman. Some women are purely physical for sexual desire. Others get wet on power. Others on social status. Many models actually need more than just looks to get it on as looks is already too commonplace in their circles. Whereas a 6 or 7 women might seek looks primarily as its not as commonplace for her.

One thing I can say for these men. They are fvcking life in the azz by going against their genetic lot. And for that I’d give them much respect.

I never said that I don't try to punch above my weight class, for all the readers, just that I'm not an unrealistic blowhard. By all means, get out there and try.

There are a bunch of posters running around with the "build it and they will come" approach, which I think is hurting new posters.

They do come if you build it correctly. The counterpoint is a guy like Bigdave who thinks he built it and yet they do not come, while completely oblivious to his social “retardation” which he did not build.

 

[user43770]

They do come if you build it correctly. The counterpoint is a guy like Bigdave who thinks he built it and yet they do not come, while completely oblivious to his social “retardation” which he did not build.

And @Tenacity rip.

Just don't spout off self-help nonsense like the rest of these top posters. You used to be better than that gufru

 

[guru1000]

You know it quite funny, that I come here to fight for YOU (and others) to alleviate your (and their) inner restrictions which leads you to name calling.

 

[lamath]

I’d say depends on the woman. Some women are purely physical for sexual desire. Others get wet on power. Others on social status. Many models actually need more than just looks to get it on as looks is already too commonplace in their circles. Whereas a 6 or 7 women might seek looks primarily as its not as commonplace for her.

One thing I can say for these men. They are fvcking life in the azz by going against their genetic lot. And for that I’d give them much respect.

I agree on this
Respect to those guys, i know if i where in place of some of them i would probably be forever single.
I would just hate it if a women would want to be with me for my $$$ only

 

[user43770]

You know it quite funny, that I come here to fight for YOU (and others) to alleviate your (and their) inner restrictions which leads you to name calling.

I was just showing you how long I've been around. Don't get your panties in a twist

 

[guru1000]

I agree on this
Respect to those guys, i know if i where in place of some of them i would probably be forever single.
I would just hate it if a women would want to be with me for my $$$ only

Plenty of men with money who can’t find women. Some of them are in this forum.

It boils down to their knowing how to exploit their social status.

Money is not a deciding factor for LTRing models as it already so prevalent. It’s like my saying they can breathe and that’s what they are chosen.

These men are actually very smart as these women also assist them in building their brand within their own business lines.

 

[user43770]

Plenty of men with money who can’t find women. Some of them are in this forum.

It boils down to their knowing how to exploit their social status.

Money is not a deciding factor for LTRing models as it already so prevalent. It’s like my saying they can breathe and that’s what they are chosen.

Not to mention, Mani/pedis, exfoliating cream etc. Life is rough.

 

[guru1000]

Not to mention, Mani/pedis, exfoliating cream etc. Life is rough.

Did I hit home? Sorry to have done that to you but you were a needed example to be used toward the assistance of others.

We thank you for that. And have a nice day.

 

[user43770]

Pretty sure you copy and paste that. Come at me, bro

 

[Spaz]

@TyTe`EyEz you're a sad case.

The reason why we clash often, it's because you're on a bandwagon NOT to empower men but make men lesser or stuck in the same shiethole.

If I were to have ur attitude, I'd still be stuck in the jungle, never knowing what a city is like or even experience other countries/civilizations.

Some men were adamant to want to fly and they created planes.

Some wanted to go to the moon and did.

It was all a dream, an impossible dream but it became possible when men put their minds into it but not according to you since its a waste of time.

As for beautiful women, they get hit all the time, by moneyed men, by good looking men, etc so much so that most are immune until she meets one who has a variation of attractive attributes.

You're just too bitter with life but that's fine, don't make the rest bitter just like you and feel they can't achieve anything.

 

[user43770]

@TyTe`EyEz you're a sad case.

The reason why we clash often, it's because you're on a bandwagon NOT to empower men but make men lesser or stuck in the same shiethole.

If I were to have ur attitude, I'd still be stuck in the jungle, never knowing what a city is like or even experience other countries/civilizations.

Some men were adamant to want to fly and they created planes.

Some wanted to go to the moon and did.

It was all a dream, an impossible dream but it became possible when men put their minds into it but not according to you since its a waste of time.

As for beautiful women, they get hit all the time, by moneyed men, by good looking men, etc so much so that most are immune until she meets one who has a variation of attractive attributes.

You're just too bitter with life but that's fine, don't make the rest bitter just like you and feel they can't achieve anything.

Well, I respect guru, as he used to give concrete advice, and still does sometimes.

But you? Lol

You obviously post a lot, that's been beaten to death, but nobody ever talks about your lack of substance. How can you post 1000 words a day and not really say anything?

Spaz: you should be more masculine. You should become a successful man that women gravitate towards. You should develop your social sphere. Pua are feminine seducers.

These are your mainstays, and they're unoriginal and unhelpful. You make me laugh, boy.

Hold on. You know what's better? That I've seen you get beaten down in debates, only to mold that poster's ideas into your own. Suddenly, it's spaz the king, spouting guru's ideas. Or mine.

You're an overbearing fraud.

 

[user43770]

@Spaz but I still like you

 

[Dash Riprock]

Set up an account on SA or SDM. I've screwed many girls off of those sites. No $. If you're decent looking, in shape, fun and charismatic, take them out and show them a good time and se*x is almost a given. Most are girls 20+ years younger than me.

 

[EyeOnThePrize]

Well, I respect guru, as he used to give concrete advice, and still does sometimes.

But you? Lol

You obviously post a lot, that's been beaten to death, but nobody ever talks about your lack of substance. How can you post 1000 words a day and not really say anything?

Spaz: you should be more masculine. You should become a successful man that women gravitate towards. You should develop your social sphere. Pua are feminine seducers.

These are your mainstays, and they're unoriginal and unhelpful. You make me laugh, boy.

Hold on. You know what's better? That I've seen you get beaten down in debates, only to mold that poster's ideas into your own. Suddenly, it's spaz the king, spouting guru's ideas. Or mine.

You're an overbearing fraud.

To answer you question about 'giving' more directly, giving of yourself in an unconditional way. As guru has said before, egoless love. It's a state that requires work, maintenance, and vigilance. When you fuuck to simply bust a nut you're coming from ego and wasting your time. You may stumble on a girl that you get along with and feelings may develop. But your personal issues of self neglect will resurface when the infatuation wears off. That's why self improvement is so important, it's a life long practice and if you build it right they really do come. The way you irrevocably dismiss the idea says much more about you than me. Why you would tout a shiitty attitude and limiting beliefs about life, people, and growth as superior makes zero sense. You've obviously been burned and can't bring yourself to let go of your resentment. You're in too deep, willing to take your flawed stance to the grave because of your ego. I'm not saying my stance is better, but at least I'm open to changing it and admitting fault.

It's funny there's no real counter argument from you. You're quick to attack people's character rather than the logic of their argument. You focus so heavily on a person's character you don't even comprehend what they're trying to get across. You feel validated by anyone who's gullible enough to get baited into your diick swinging contest. It's like you don't care if it's good or bad attention, you just want attention. It feels like a facade, the very false confidence that I make sure not to fall into. I don't mind if you disagree, I think it's healthy, but you lose respect when you deviate in an attempt to undermine someone's character. I know it's probably useless to say any of this, because when you're stumped you fall silent, unwilling to change, unwilling to learn. A wet match in a dark cave. This is the one and only time I'm going to speak about your character, because it's not constructive, not my style, and not why I'm here. In the next thread if you can't maintain your civility I'll simply stop responding until you regain it.

When people call you out for this stuff and your response is to try and tear them down you're only proving their point.