Went on a solid 9 date from match tonight. But.....

[2Rocky]

Which is odd because the 2 days leading up to the date she was really texty blowing up my phone a lot and then on the date after I mentioned the business I own and that it's at an indoor fleamarket her attitude totally changed towards me.

You are in Commercial Real Estate. You own retail space that you lease to retail store owners. Many of them are artisans and vintage item resellers. Don't use terms like secondhand, fleamarket, swap meet, consignment etc.

 

[biggoal]

You are in Commercial Real Estate. You own retail space that you lease to retail store owners. Many of them are artisans and vintage item resellers. Don't use terms like secondhand, fleamarket, swap meet, consignment etc.

So fudge it up more! The women fudge their profiles up and lie like crazy. Us men should do the same.

 

[biggoal]

Well, no action on match lately. It's all about timing. I sent out like a dozen messages, BUT those women mostly have not logged on for a couple days. I always try to messages ones who are online or just been online. I message them and then they have not logged back on yet. In most cases if they don't log on within a couple days they will never read your message because it's 10 pages back in their inbox.

I am having better luck on OKC. It seems the reply rate is higher there. Granted OKC is MOSTLY garbage, nasty ugly girls. However you can do a lot of weed digging and work inside the trenches and find a good looking one if you work hard enough and the reply rate is better than Match. Granted everyone uses match so it's like 12 to 1 guys on those gals. OKC also has a better messaging system that is easier to see the message.

I did get a number on OKC after exchanging a few messages today. She's not a 9 like this one, but is slim, about a solid 6.5 and still has a pretty face and more blue collar and doesn't seem snobby like this last HB9. She has church tomorrow night and work on Monday and I work Monday night so Tuesday we will chat.

But yea, Match is sucking lately. A lot of new girls though but the profiles look suspect, and as I said bad timing with people I message not logging back into their accounts at all.

 

[corrector]

Well she's supposed to be in my area for something this weekend she told me when she was on the date. Is it okay to text her one last time and see what's up in case some prayer she wants to meet up or maybe wait until after she's here and ask how it went? Some gym thing she's doing.

What did you end up doing?

 

[biggoal]

What did you end up doing?

Nothing lol. She never replied. So forget her. I need some more advice though see below.

Oh and first as you saw I've been having a rather dry spell on OLD lately just due to sending out messages and getting bad timing with people not logging back on and such and overall just swinging and missing. So what I did was I changed my profile photo back to the one you see in my avatar and all of a sudden I get the two replies and more women viewing. One on OKC that gave me her number and an HB8 on match tonight. The profile pic I had up before I was smiling in it, I have straight teeth but that photo didn't seem to grab as much attention despite I look better in that one.

This HB8 though I've messaged a couple times before but no reply back. She lives about 50 miles away though and is looking for someone within 35 miles of her. So she's on there like everyday and literally 8 hours a day. She too list herself as a teacher but profile seems legit, and not a fake one unless it's a good fake one. So I just sent a message to her joking about her changing her profile pic and about the new photo I really like her smile and that's how I remember her and I flirted about why someone like her (She's really hot but I didn't mention looks specifically) is on that site in the first place. She replied back saying thanks and said she's on there everyday and she's just dog sitting and mentions that she's having troubles finding places to meet new people at.

Again, here is another chick on this thing 24/7 and she's a teacher. Do these teachers just get bored all day?

Anyway, I sent a reply back. She read the reply but didn't reply back, BUT she logged off right after reading the reply so she probably was getting ready for bed and read it at the last second I'm thinking.

So if I don't hear back, tomorrow should I send another reply back saying I'd like to chat more with her and such and go ahead and offer her MY number like I did before with others?

This strategy has worked for me a couple times when a girl on OLD seems to be on the fence and dodges around the number thing. I offer my number to her and they actually text me. I'm thinking it's a trust thing possibly. Either way, if I don't hear back I'll try this strategy again.

I mean I hear this before from women about OLD who are new to it they don't meet up with a lot of people and unsure about it.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

This is what I mean. The reason why you even have to ask this is the problem. I can't give you my own principles and boundaries. Your self respect - inner radar should have the answer to that. For some reason you don't seem to have any of that. You place women on a pedestal instead of yourself, and this is the root of all of your problems. You've been programmed to think worshipping women = lays.

Noone can give you a sense of entitlement and sovereignty. You have to find that from within.

+ 1

This is what Ross Jefferies meant by pua was giving children dynamite. Boundaries are king.

 

[biggoal]

Also OLD has gone downhill so much in the last 4 years I've noticed with tons more fake profiles, and flakey women in general. This just makes it even more time consuming having to spend hours searching seeing the same faces and then sending messages.

Meeting in real life is a lot easier effort wise since you're talking face to face and they can at least reject you to your face instead of waiting and hoping they read your message only to ignore you.

The problem is you need a job or go to college to meet tons of single people. A relative suggested getting a part time job in a restaurant just bussing tables since a lot of young women work in restaurants and meet people that way for example.

 

[biggoal]

Not trying to trigger you but reading your description of this interaction you sound like an appeaser. When you see negatives against your principles or what you want. Don't make excuses like that. Don't let her looks override signals. Agree with Marmel. You can go for the sex yes if she's not LTR material or even short term GF.
Did you tell her she sounds kinda snobby?
Sounds to me like you had no leverage at all.

No I didn't say that at the time. Thinking about it when she didn't reply to that first text message two days later I probably should have sent her a text and called her out on being a rude snob. Even though it wouldn't matter with me though but maybe the next guy she encounters she'd change her attitude towards them. If you saw my earlier replies, a older guy I work with who is in tip top shape when he was young and single he flat out walked out on dates with women who were snobby on many occasions while on a date. Says don't put up with their attitude like that. The attitude really changed when I told her about the business I own. She really put it down and rolled her eyes and got even more nervous.

I just had a funny encounter on POF. Yea, POF the trashy site. I messaged a hb 6.5. hot but not super hot. Looked a little trashy. Single mom of two, only high school degree. Anyway she sends a rude reply back lol about not being interested. Funny thing is my interest line up with hers mostly as well. Working out, guns, fishing and such. Even on match I haven't encounted anything like that before.

Where do these women get these attitudes from?

 

[biggoal]

POF can be a disaster zone haha

I agree. I HARDLY ever get a reply back from anyone decent there. OKC has even more trash but believe it or not I still get replies on that site when I do find a half way clean looking one. I think because hardly anyone uses OKC there is a bit less competition when messaging and better chance they see your message due to the format they use.

Match.com has more fake profiles I think and snob level is uber high. When I see the same women on there 18 hours a day everyday it's either a bot or a woman who is so snobbish they can't find a date on there or IRL she's so stuck up.

I like the look of Eharomony though. However all the matches I get are mostly in Tampa and I ain't paying big bucks monthly for matches almost 100 miles away.

Bottom line the last 5 years OLD has really gone downhille.

 

[biggoal]

I think so too. Facebook is probably the best dating app. Real life will always be king.
HOWEVER if your looking outside the country dating apps can be awsome. If your willing to travel to find that wife. If your into that kinda thing

How do you find dates on facebook?

Here is a reply I got tonight. Sounds iffy though. Her profile pics look legit and she's educated and no kids. Honestly she just have bad luck? I replied back again and asked for her cell number to text and she gave it to me. She's 8 years older and divorced. Is it because maybe she looking for some action now? I replied back and said I was busy because I really am for the next week but I'd still love to chat and get to know her more, plus do some background possibly to make sure it's really her and not some set up for robbery. We have had those down here a couple times recently.

SH*T! That is probably the nicest note I've received on Match, thus far. The hitch in the giddyup is that you're 40 minutes up the pike from me in Cape Cornhole, I don't have a car and I rent a room from a Vietnamese family. I guess that's technically 3 hitches in the giddyup. I just got divorced in April and I am still financially recovering from a horrendous-ass divorce. I should have a car come September. So, basically, for now, it doesn't seem feasible for us to try to date. What do you think?

 

[Igetit!]

Where do these women get these attitudes from?

From us (men).

You saw the way this chick was mean,rude,snobby,dismissive,condescending.....how she rolled her eyes when you told her your profession,how she had an "I'm better than you" attitude,and how despite ALL THAT,you still continued to reach out and try to see her?

From there. That's where their attitudes come from.

In fact,in one post, here: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...te-from-match-tonight-but.261966/post-2663633 ,you even mentioned something about "fighting for" the chick. So you considered "fighting" in order to get a mean,dismissive,DISRESPECTFUL,eye-rolling,CONDESCENDING woman to go out with you again.

From there. That's where hot chick's "attitudes" come from.

 

[Mazer]

Well, no action on match lately. It's all about timing. I sent out like a dozen messages, BUT those women mostly have not logged on for a couple days. I always try to messages ones who are online or just been online. I message them and then they have not logged back on yet. In most cases if they don't log on within a couple days they will never read your message because it's 10 pages back in their inbox.

I am having better luck on OKC. It seems the reply rate is higher there. Granted OKC is MOSTLY garbage, nasty ugly girls. However you can do a lot of weed digging and work inside the trenches and find a good looking one if you work hard enough and the reply rate is better than Match. Granted everyone uses match so it's like 12 to 1 guys on those gals. OKC also has a better messaging system that is easier to see the message.

I did get a number on OKC after exchanging a few messages today. She's not a 9 like this one, but is slim, about a solid 6.5 and still has a pretty face and more blue collar and doesn't seem snobby like this last HB9. She has church tomorrow night and work on Monday and I work Monday night so Tuesday we will chat.

But yea, Match is sucking lately. A lot of new girls though but the profiles look suspect, and as I said bad timing with people I message not logging back into their accounts at all.

Why wait for responses on OLD, surely there has to be women at “flea markets”. Find a target, open her, get her number or plan a date on the spot. It’s the quickest way you will ever get a response from a woman instead of waiting for them to respond to your messages on OLD.

 

[biggoal]

From us (men).

You saw the way this chick was mean,rude,snobby,dismissive,condescending.....how she rolled her eyes when you told her your profession,how she had an "I'm better than you" attitude,and how despite ALL THAT,you still continued to reach out and try to see her?

From there. That's where their attitudes come from.

In fact,in one post, here: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...te-from-match-tonight-but.261966/post-2663633 ,you even mentioned something about "fighting for" the chick. So you considered "fighting" in order to get a mean,dismissive,DISRESPECTFUL,eye-rolling,CONDESCENDING woman to go out with you again.

From there. That's where hot chick's "attitudes" come from.

From us (men).

You saw the way this chick was mean,rude,snobby,dismissive,condescending.....how she rolled her eyes when you told her your profession,how she had an "I'm better than you" attitude,and how despite ALL THAT,you still continued to reach out and try to see her?

From there. That's where their attitudes come from.

In fact,in one post, here: https://www.sosuave.net/forum/threa...te-from-match-tonight-but.261966/post-2663633 ,you even mentioned something about "fighting for" the chick. So you considered "fighting" in order to get a mean,dismissive,DISRESPECTFUL,eye-rolling,CONDESCENDING woman to go out with you again.

From there. That's where hot chick's "attitudes" come from.

Like I said, this 39 year old was a solid 9. Everything perfect about her.I figured to just tag along with her BS in hopes it would still lead to some action at least. I mean, I'm not a perv or anything. On the date I was really respectful to her.

In the text messages the two days leading to it she was totally different. Very chatting and responsive and blew up my phone a lot too while I was working. Didn't seem snobby. Like I said the odd part when she texted ME about wanting to meet in my city 60 miles away worried about being "seen" in public. Makes me wonder in her part of town she's known to be a total snob and brat hence why she didn't want to go out down there. That's what I'm thinking now. She has a reputation.

 

[Igetit!]

Like I said, this 39 year old was a solid 9. Everything perfect about her.I figured to just tag along with her BS in hopes it would still lead to some action at least. I mean, I'm not a perv or anything. On the date I was really respectful to her.

In the text messages the two days leading to it she was totally different. Very chatting and responsive and blew up my phone a lot too while I was working. Didn't seem snobby. Like I said the odd part when she texted ME about wanting to meet in my city 60 miles away worried about being "seen" in public. Makes me wonder in her part of town she's known to be a total snob and brat hence why she didn't want to go out down there. That's what I'm thinking now. She has a reputation.

All I did was answer your question.

You asked where her type of attitude came from....

I told you.

 

[Spaz]

You sound obsessed OP.

Doesn't look good.

 

[biggoal]

You sound obsessed OP.

Doesn't look good.

Nah. I got two more numbers the last 3 days off OLD. One I just posted is solid 6.5 to low end 7.

 

[Spaz]

Nah. I got two more numbers the last 3 days off OLD. One I just posted is solid 6.5 to low end 7.

Report back to us when you do go on the date itself.

 

[biggoal]

Report back to us when you do go on the date itself.

Might be a bit. I assume you read the post I made about that woman who gave me her number tonight. She seems totally legit, just being divorced and not having a car until Sept is a red flag. Me thinks she wants to simply use me as her chauffer to chuck her around town. If I text with her then her name will show on caller ID and I can facebook her and prove she's real. She looks really clean and is educated, nice smile and all so she's no white trash looking. I do think with this one just the way she sounds I could probably get in her pants after just a couple dates, but if you read my other post I'm not looking for short term hookups. Sure I'd love to sleep with them but I want an actual relationship too. I don't look at women as just a piece of meat like some do on here.

I'm 95 percent sure she's legit. Just want find out more. You see recently someone in Naples got robbed going on a date that was a set up. She lives in an apartment. I don't want to go to a strangers APARTMENT I never met. It could be a set up and rob you and worse. Meet in a public place first.

 

[biggoal]

So yesterday a 42 yr old hb2 checked my profile out so I messaged her. She read it and checked it out again. Then a few hours ago she checked me out yet again. What does that mean when they keep looking at your profile? This one is a 42 yr old milf very active with a degree and good sales job. Out of my league age and status wise for sure. How do you guys handle women way out of your league?

So should I send her another message and find a flirty joke about checking out my profile again? Why would a 42yr milf want to keep looking at my profile?

 

[biggoal]

Oh and the post above was supposed to be HB9 lol. Stupid unsmart phones.

Anyway I sent her a short, cute message saying "don't be shy" I mean if you're going to keep looking at my profile why not send a reply and say hi?

This chick looks preppy and highly educated types but is super hot and blonde. I prefer brunettes though. She listed age preference 41-58 in her profile. I think a younger guy would do her a lot of good though.