Is dating different for very handsome men?

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Happens to me alot too, like a bird dog she stares at me no smile like she's analyzing my worth because she sees "not like other" men (dominant appearing, but truth be told I'm a flounderer, a man who could easily get his as5 beat by a barely trained fighter).
Start some self defense training, I think its worth while. Trust me, I'm internet guy, listen to me
 

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That's a real good video man... I just finished it
I highly recommend all his production videos - i.e., not the talk shows, although they are good as well. That said, his talk show on the HeightPill is a highly recommended talk show:

 
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Start some self defense training, I think its worth while. Trust me, I'm internet guy, listen to me
I'm too old and lazy. I don't wanna fight the younger guys. I'm at the stage now where I'd just draw my piece if I couldn't avoid it.
 
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I'm too old and lazy. I don't wanna fight the younger guys. I'm at the stage now where I'd just draw my piece if I couldn't avoid it.
Fair enough man, that's actual preferable. In my late teens I hung out around a lot of questionable people, and seedy areas. Lots of big talk and tough bravado. If someone lost a fist fight there was usually a knife or a gun pulled. Can be the kung fu drunken master and a gun will win every time
 

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6s reject me, 7s and 8s think I’m trolling them until I show humility, 9s love me.

Thats OK, I love 9s right back
 
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6s reject me, 7s and 8s think I’m trolling them until I show humility, 9s love me.

Thats OK, I love 9s right back
Interesting, the way I see it is if you're attracted to her, then it's a done deal. If you aren't attracted, there's nothing to be had there.

I never understood the whole 1-10 scale, feels foreign when I use it. If I have to gauge or "question" my attraction level to her then I am not sufficiently interested. My opinion may change if she has a quality or characteristic I particularly enjoy
 

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As I watch more of the video he mentions babies. I've heard that babies will look at physically attractive people, now attraction can be subjective because of culture and such. But there are always interesting characteristics that will stick out on attractive people, and babies will gaze at these "interesting" facial features, which are attractive. I am more of the "pretty boy" type of attractive, I have large lips and high cheekbones, I have a more "feminine" features that men typically don't have

So I guess if you've been stared at by babies you are probably attractive
Yeah, it's more that beauty is objective, but physical attraction is subjective and affected by culture.

I think babies like the beauty of a face.
 

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Interesting, the way I see it is if you're attracted to her, then it's a done deal. If you aren't attracted, there's nothing to be had there.

I never understood the whole 1-10 scale, feels foreign when I use it. If I have to gauge or "question" my attraction level to her then I am not sufficiently interested. My opinion may change if she has a quality or characteristic I particularly enjoy
Here are my distinctions:

7s are baseline bangable
8s are plate-able
9s have a shot at LTRs

I grow sexually bored of 7s almost immediately and 8s in time. 9s hold the longest sexual sustenance, but even then ...

Also there is no numerical linear attraction. A 7 might not be into my look, and a 9 might. It all falls within types. I do best with Eastern European and Russians.
 
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Absolute bull****. First you guys say looks don't matter and now you're saying that good looks are worse?
Who ever talks about looks don't matter are speaking a partial truth, it's usually a top priority as far as sex goes. I get plenty of subtle indirect, operation covert capture man and suck his penis advances from women who are married or in relationships. So yeah if you're a guy looking for sex, then yeah looks matter. If you want genuine relationships, and people who don't like you purely because of your physical appearance.. then it can work against you. The positives outweigh the negatives by far
 

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Who ever talks about looks don't matter are speaking a partial truth, it's usually a top priority as far as sex goes. I get plenty of subtle indirect, operation covert capture man and suck his penis advances from women who are married or in relationships. So yeah if you're a guy looking for sex, then yeah looks matter. If you want genuine relationships, and people who don't like you purely because of your physical appearance.. then it can work against you. The positives outweigh the negatives by far
And people seem to forget the halo effect. An attractive man doesn't need to do much to convince a woman he's a good guy. He just has to try.

An average/ugly man (no difference between ugly and average to women) has to take her on three dates, tell stand up level jokes, make a promise of commitment to her, and be overall a great catch on paper.

If a good looking man messes up, all he has to do is apologize.

If an ugly/average man messes up, it's over for him.
 

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Fair enough man, that's actual preferable. In my late teens I hung out around a lot of questionable people, and seedy areas. Lots of big talk and tough bravado. If someone lost a fist fight there was usually a knife or a gun pulled. Can be the kung fu drunken master and a gun will win every time
or a karambit
 
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And people seem to forget the halo effect. An attractive man doesn't need to do much to convince a woman he's a good guy. He just has to try.

An average/ugly man (no difference between ugly and average to women) has to take her on three dates, tell stand up level jokes, make a promise of commitment to her, and be overall a great catch on paper.

If a good looking man messes up, all he has to do is apologize.

If an ugly/average man messes up, it's over for him.
Well I do agree that if I mess something up and take responsibility, it's a positive reaction.. From women I can even seem sweet or endearing for owning up to my mistakes and being humble. But I've always been quiet and reserved, so I can't speak for more extroverted handsome men, who may come off a different way to people than me.

I think owning up to your mistakes can be respectable (which is an attractive trait to women, when a man commands respect from men and women alike.. very sexy in fact. Women go crazy over men with power, which is why handsome looks are good. His genes imply masculine power)

But I think that's a negative mindset to have, if you think that you mess up once and it's all over. There needs to be an abundance mindset, there will always be other women, in fact there ARE other women.. You don't ever need to be a monkey that entertains women, you must be realistic about what you have to offer, (not money but your perceived reputation and your looks.) You can improve EVERYTHING but your face, so take advantage of it. Actually growing a beard can help some men look more rugged and handsome.. Anyways

Always remember to inspire a feeling in a woman, she must either love or hate you. She can not be neutral, a woman that hates you can also be the same woman that loves you. Women experience this when they see me, women know instantly if they would ever sleep with me or not.
 

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Here are my distinctions:

7s are baseline bangable
8s are plate-able
9s have a shot at LTRs

I grow sexually bored of 7s almost immediately and 8s in time. 9s hold the longest sexual sustenance, but even then ...

Also there is no numerical linear attraction. A 7 might not be into my look, and a 9 might. It all falls within types. I do best with Eastern European and Russians.
For me, she can be a 6 or 7 in the face as long as she has a great pvssy (and t!ts really, that's a close second). Quite a few 9s don't have a good pvssy (which to me, means "meaty"). I used to think that Eastern European, Russians (namely from Omsk) were the what I should be after or want and desire because of ONE experience in 2010 (I was developing oneitis she was so thin - Great pvssy, decent face), however, after more and more experiences with "Slavs" (and one Ukrainian last August through October that was longest relationship I've had in a while though the sex was ho-hum we got along Very well long nights at her apartment and just totally opposite in servitude to me as opposed to our America women, she praised me in every way and fixed me things, brushed aside her evening robe on the couch for me to view a bo0b meaning that she wanted us to go at it again making her cat curious), I found a 50/50 deadness inside with some slavic girls that made me revert back to only wanting my own kind (Anglo-Saxon, Anglo-Celt) again, though I have been with a Hispanic recently and mixed Asian-European.
 

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I’ve been having yellow fever as of late, Asians galore. Though, with no extra help, They lack shape and that’s my sticking point: Need curves to keep my interest longer term. Unfortunate too, they have great value systems.
I agree. It was a turn-off, just rubbery skin or "run-of-the-mill" and not hygienic (breath wasn't bad just she'd been running all day had just gotten back from target and no time to brush teeth or pop a mint or settle down before meeting up with me). Her as5 was fine in doggy where I came very hard to last there. Guys do not realize the vast differences among women, they just think "oh, she's cute" or "has a beautiful face," but there are many other factors to an ideal fvcking experience and you don't wanna be stuck with one not knowing how great it can be at the other end of the spectrum. Differences in your own height and hers can ruin sex too, and how your bodies fit together, even if your d!ck is too long or not big enough or too big or she's too fat (the worst experience for most of us obviously though it's good to fill in the downtimes however repulsed you are).
 

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What can a genuine relationship give you that spinning plates cannot?

Wouldn’t you rather have sex with a different girl every month? Chinese, Japanese, Australian, German, rather than the same looking American girl over and over and over again?

Over time in a relationship, her expectations go up while her value goes down. You aspire to be her bvtch?
 

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What can a genuine relationship give you that spinning plates cannot?

Wouldn’t you rather have sex with a different girl every month? Chinese, Japanese, Australian, German, rather than the same looking American girl over and over and over again?

Over time in a relationship, her expectations go up while her value goes down. You aspire to be her bvtch?
You get all the sex, but you don't get much of the bond or connection, there's no real intimacy. You can feel lonely at times because of it, and some guys just can't live like that non stop

I personally don't care about that, but I understand the men who want more meaningful relationships
 

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Just date a normal plain looking cute chick, who many here might rate a 6 or 7, who doesn't wear make-up and then invite her to a social event that requires wearing a gown.

You'd have a 10 by then.

From the way many of you guys post on here, it seems like many of you don't date enough women to know this simple fact.
 

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Actually I do think that decent women can be intimidated by high SMV

I once heard a theory, which, accidentally, is a pretty good argument against severe hypergamy

That women won't actually date a guy who is way too much above them

I've seen this in action. Pretty plain Jane types turning DOWN Chads

The biological explanation is that women don't want to risk abandonment in pregnancy

Pair bonding is still innate, and women know who they can "tame" and who they cannot

The theory has holes and lizard brain still probably wins but I thought it was interesting
 
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Here are my distinctions:

7s are baseline bangable
8s are plate-able
9s have a shot at LTRs

I grow sexually bored of 7s almost immediately and 8s in time. 9s hold the longest sexual sustenance, but even then ...

Also there is no numerical linear attraction. A 7 might not be into my look, and a 9 might. It all falls within types. I do best with Eastern European and Russians.
I agree with @guru1000 in that there's nothing like banging a hot, porn star-esque 9+ and having heads turn when you walk into a room with her. I've banged and dated plenty of 9's and after many data points have found...

For 95% of them their personalities and behaviors absolutely suck. They're dull and boring and have nothing interesting to say about anything. And they don't have to, they've largely had everything handed to them from a very young age. They're beautiful and it's carried them through life. Rarely do hot women have decent careers and any sort of business or financial acumen. Most aren't that good with kids. MANY 8+'s have serious personality and mental issues--because they have no skills or purpose. So to me, they've gotten to be disposable p*ussy. One, two, three at the most and done. Just my experience.

So, at some point, you need more than hotness to keep my attention. I love hot fudge sundaes, but if I have one every night of the week for 3 months, I'm going to get sick of it.

Right now, I'm pursuing more 7's. I've found they're the best to hang out with and have sex with. Supermodel or porn star? No. But, they're do-able and the ones I date can actually hold a conversation, are intelligent and educated, and don't have "Baby Princess" syndrome or serious mental issues. Had a second date with a pure 7 on Sunday. Took her to an outdoor art show then we had sushi, sake, mead, and popsicles. Walked and talked. She was actually, dare I say, "fun" to talk to. Good vibe and flow. It actually made me want to f*uck her more.

Good luck.
 
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