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Because you have progressed so well @highSpeed and I happen to like you, I think you and some others are ready for more truth about the Feminine Imperative and Marriage.

First off, get rid of any thoughts about you doing anything wrong like was suggested a few posts back by a woman. Never listen to a woman about anything concerning your survival. Not now. Not ever. It’s a death warrant. Key Lime pie? Yeah she is probably right.

Secondly, women are MASTERS of the game. I read about guys laying down rules and such, or expectations, or ideas about when they move in together (LTR) or get married to a woman. This is incredibly stupid. Women are already fully aware of what men think and what they want for a relationship or marriage. After all, these things are the Imperative. They already know what the man expects. Better than the man. This is naive to think that you must speak them to her. She is already a mile ahead of you. She knows exactly what the traditional frame of marriage is. She knows exactly what it contains and what it represents to the man. No matter how “modern” she is, she knows exactly what the man is expecting. Here is the kicker. She doesn’t care a single bit about any of a man’s reality as it pertains to him surrendering to marriage. You may not know it yet but “surrender” is the only word that applies.

From the commitment made by you forward, her manipulations become very specific and tailored to that individual man. They are all similar to all men but isn’t it interesting how fast she can find all your specific buttons? It’s fantastic. This is all framework. From the moment you surrendered to enslavement, she knows that her sex drive will taper off. She understands it perfectly. The only time it didn’t was when a man got away because she got her manipulations twisted or the man knows and figured it out. He got away so she pines after him forever. But the truth is, eventually all these men or man got corralled by another woman somewhere because of the conditioning and subterfuge of the imperative that is in them. So that man in the past, really isn’t anything like the man she built up in her mind.

Marriage is a base of operations. She stabilizes this base as a foundation and then begins to operate from and out of that base. She executes her biology or sexual habits from that base of operations. It’s important to understand that this is strategic. Not tactical. Tactical would be the means or manipulations to fulfill the strategic plan. Obviously, this is all man talk as she only knows what her mood is or what her feelings and biology are dictating to her.

Here is her conundrum. The real root of the problem. She has to “reward” or “ration” sex as a manipulation. Right when you are getting to the epic point of frustration…you get sex. Funny how that works. You see, it’s a sprint from her period ending to her next period. Or more specifically, from ovulation to ovulation. To maintain her base of operations, she has to manipulate as much production and compliance from you as she can. They call it team building or whatever the fuk they use as the leverage for manipulation. This is pretty elementary stuff.

She knows that she will NEVER fall back “in-love” with you. There is a whole paradigm inside the Feminine Imperative in the form of therapy, marriage counseling, all the things you need to do to turn it around. This is a BRUTAL social trap that men fall into and get manipulated with again. It absolutely doesn’t work. All that psycho babble is an industry of garbage.

The moment you said, “I Do”, the fortunes of your life were changed. You were no longer in charge. Do not be fooled by the words of women on this. They know EXACTLY what’s going on and why. They want to rule the world of men even though they didn’t build it. They want full unrestricted access to their sexual habits and unlimited resources. Therefore, it was a mistake to let them vote as a whole. Communism/socialism is inevitable in that condition.

Competition anxiety will not work on a wife. Initially it will cause her alarm, but you have to view it from her solipsistic paradigm. This is considered an act of rebellion and she will begin dik hunting in a spiteful manner. She knows she will win in this scenario. The only exception is if her SMV is at a hideous level. Slaves are NEVER allowed to escape or rebel. They must be punished. Up to and including full resource extraction by legal means. She doesn’t see it as a heart loss like a man. Only men are capable of idealistic love. She sees it as her failure to solidify her home base properly. This is why women hate men freed from the imperative. His resources are not available for their survival. This man will be attacked at every turn. There are plenty of women who want a shot at securing these men. The only validation you give women is when you are fukking every hole she has.

I have been putting off a thread on these things. But your situation fell right into it. I have no recommendations but now you might have enough information to make the best choices for you. The second you go into a relationship/marriage with a woman…she automatically begins building a secure base. The mere fact that you committed makes you less of a man in her eyes. It’s time to make you a good little cuckasaurous. It’s not evil. It’s survival for her. It’s in her DNA.

Masculinity and escape from the Feminine Imperative is a man's only real option.
 
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@highSpeed I'm sure you'll be posting how this all works out for you.
 
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Because you have progressed so well @highSpeed and I happen to like you, I think you and some others are ready for more truth about the Feminine Imperative and Marriage.
I normally just skip past your theoretical diatribes, but this is getting ridiculous.

You read The Manipulated Man and suddenly have all the answers to women? Give me a fvcking break.

All this feminine imperative noise is great for guys to learn when they first find the red-pill, but after that it's just mental masturbation.

Stop acting like your some kind of sage. The manosphere has been talking about this sh1t for over a decade. It doesn't come up often anymore because the market is saturated.
 

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I normally just skip past your theoretical diatribes, but this is getting ridiculous.

You read The Manipulated Man and suddenly have all the answers to women? Give me a fvcking break.

All this feminine imperative noise is great for guys to learn when they first find the red-pill, but after that it's just mental masturbation.

Stop acting like your some kind of sage. The manosphere has been talking about this sh1t for over a decade. It doesn't come up often anymore because the market is saturated.
Stop reading my posts then. That is an example of experience and full unplugging.
Now be a good little boy and run along now.
 
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@Epic Days I didn't read your entire post (as they're all the same...theoretical nonsense that doesn't actually help anyone) I read the first sentence, and was so amused by your audacity that I had to respond.
 

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@Epic Days I didn't read your entire post (as they're all the same...theoretical nonsense that doesn't actually help anyone) I read the first sentence, and was so amused by your audacity that I had to respond.
I love how you play up to women. LMAO
Maybe one day they will drop for you, but I doubt it.
A woman liked your post.
Though it’s a validation of the authenticity of my post by her, there’s nothing I can do for you.
 

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You're either Spaz, or you're on his d1ck so hard that you're starting to sound like him.
Come now, stop being a bitter little guy. It's not so bad.
 

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I know, buddy.

You're a good writer, but you're unoriginal. You're spouting off other people's ideas.
Tell me where that might come from. I've never read it anywhere and it might be a really good source to support my own observations. I've played the game for a while. It's not like your video games.
Please do point me to where you have read what I just posted. Don't be shy now. Good little boys can do nice things too.
 
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Tell me where that might come from. I've never read it anywhere and it might be a really good source to support my own observations. I've played the game for a while. It's not like your video games.
Please do point me to where you have read what I just posted. Don't be shy now. Good little boys can do nice things too.
Hmm, well I know your ideas are already on sosuave. Burroughs put me on it. Older posters will remember him. He was Poon King before there was one. His account has been deleted, but he was ahead of the times.

Same ideas are on Rollo's blog. Same ideas are in "The Manipulated Male," which you said changed your world.

Same ideas are everywhere on the internet now, bud. Have been for a long time.
 
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You say that hypergamy doesn't exist, yet you're constantly peppering the feminine imperative. All you did was change the name. Like I said, unoriginal.
 

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You say that hypergamy doesn't exist, yet you're constantly peppering the feminine imperative. All you did was change the name. Like I said, unoriginal.
It doesn’t exist the way it’s portrayed. It’s false data.
There is the phenomena of securing a man for security and resources and breeding with other males. This does exist.

But you have failed to direct me to the source where another book describes what I posted above concerning marriage. It doesn’t exist. At least not in open venues.
Stop being a ridiculous man and be honest. If you don’t give up your brain washing and ridiculous little boy stuff you are going to have a wasted life.
 
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It doesn’t exist the way it’s portrayed. It’s false data.
There is the phenomena of securing a man for security and resources and breeding with other males. This does exist.

But you have failed to direct me to the source where another book describes what I posted above concerning marriage. It doesn’t exist. At least not in open venues.
Stop being a ridiculous man and be honest. If you don’t give up your brain washing and ridiculous little boy stuff you are going to have a wasted life.
Your feminine imperative is the same as briffault's law, which has been prevalent in the manosphere for over a decade. Like I already said.

Calm down, boy. You are a hack.
 

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Because you have progressed so well @highSpeed and I happen to like you, I think you and some others are ready for more truth about the Feminine Imperative and Marriage.

First off, get rid of any thoughts about you doing anything wrong like was suggested a few posts back by a woman. Never listen to a woman about anything concerning your survival. Not now. Not ever. It’s a death warrant. Key Lime pie? Yeah she is probably right.

Secondly, women are MASTERS of the game. I read about guys laying down rules and such, or expectations, or ideas about when they move in together (LTR) or get married to a woman. This is incredibly stupid. Women are already fully aware of what men think and what they want for a relationship or marriage. After all, these things are the Imperative. They already know what the man expects. Better than the man. This is naive to think that you must speak them to her. She is already a mile ahead of you. She knows exactly what the traditional frame of marriage is. She knows exactly what it contains and what it represents to the man. No matter how “modern” she is, she knows exactly what the man is expecting. Here is the kicker. She doesn’t care a single bit about any of a man’s reality as it pertains to him surrendering to marriage. You may not know it yet but “surrender” is the only word that applies.

From the commitment made by you forward, her manipulations become very specific and tailored to that individual man. They are all similar to all men but isn’t it interesting how fast she can find all your specific buttons? It’s fantastic. This is all framework. From the moment you surrendered to enslavement, she knows that her sex drive will taper off. She understands it perfectly. The only time it didn’t was when a man got away because she got her manipulations twisted or the man knows and figured it out. He got away so she pines after him forever. But the truth is, eventually all these men or man got corralled by another woman somewhere because of the conditioning and subterfuge of the imperative that is in them. So that man in the past, really isn’t anything like the man she built up in her mind.

Marriage is a base of operations. She stabilizes this base as a foundation and then begins to operate from and out of that base. She executes her biology or sexual habits from that base of operations. It’s important to understand that this is strategic. Not tactical. Tactical would be the means or manipulations to fulfill the strategic plan. Obviously, this is all man talk as she only knows what her mood is or what her feelings and biology are dictating to her.

Here is her conundrum. The real root of the problem. She has to “reward” or “ration” sex as a manipulation. Right when you are getting to the epic point of frustration…you get sex. Funny how that works. You see, it’s a sprint from her period ending to her next period. Or more specifically, from ovulation to ovulation. To maintain her base of operations, she has to manipulate as much production and compliance from you as she can. They call it team building or whatever the fuk they use as the leverage for manipulation. This is pretty elementary stuff.

She knows that she will NEVER fall back “in-love” with you. There is a whole paradigm inside the Feminine Imperative in the form of therapy, marriage counseling, all the things you need to do to turn it around. This is a BRUTAL social trap that men fall into and get manipulated with again. It absolutely doesn’t work. All that psycho babble is an industry of garbage.

The moment you said, “I Do”, the fortunes of your life were changed. You were no longer in charge. Do not be fooled by the words of women on this. They know EXACTLY what’s going on and why. They want to rule the world of men even though they didn’t build it. They want full unrestricted access to their sexual habits and unlimited resources. Therefore, it was a mistake to let them vote as a whole. Communism/socialism is inevitable in that condition.

Competition anxiety will not work on a wife. Initially it will cause her alarm, but you have to view it from her solipsistic paradigm. This is considered an act of rebellion and she will begin dik hunting in a spiteful manner. She knows she will win in this scenario. The only exception is if her SMV is at a hideous level. Slaves are NEVER allowed to escape or rebel. They must be punished. Up to and including full resource extraction by legal means. She doesn’t see it as a heart loss like a man. Only men are capable of idealistic love. She sees it as her failure to solidify her home base properly. This is why women hate men freed from the imperative. His resources are not available for their survival. This man will be attacked at every turn. There are plenty of women who want a shot at securing these men. The only validation you give women is when you are fukking every hole she has.

I have been putting off a thread on these things. But your situation fell right into it. I have no recommendations but now you might have enough information to make the best choices for you. The second you go into a relationship/marriage with a woman…she automatically begins building a secure base. The mere fact that you committed makes you less of a man in her eyes. It’s time to make you a good little cuckasaurous. It’s not evil. It’s survival for her. It’s in her DNA.

Masculinity and escape from the Feminine Imperative is a man's only real option.
It is amazing how there is a real rationing of sex, right at the moment I'm ready to lose my f*cking mind. Then it's down the road a piece, you know, until the next time I'm ready to lose my f*cking mind. I've realized for awhile now that there is little to no respect, only when I've signed the next deal, secured the next increment of resources, then I get a little bit of respect. Within a few days of either event, it's back to the f*ck off vibe from her. Wash, rinse, repeat, it's a merry go round that I'm tired of being on. The only thing literally that stops me from walking out is the kids. I've seen too many guys that see their kids literally next to no time at all. I don't want to be an absent father so I do my best to hold on.

The side piece thing, I've really only very recently started to seriously consider it. I realize that I'm not getting any younger and that I don't want to regret not using my d*ck time when I had it. She always uses excuses, she's tired, she's touched out, she doesn't like my behavior, whatever the f*ck it is stupid a$$ reason to cut me off, I'm honestly fed up. I'm not interested in gaming her, not interested in leading, I simply want to stick around for my kids and see where I can get some a$$ on the side to satisfy my carnal needs. I'd prefer not to pay for it but between career and kids, I don't have time to be chasing women around. Straight up, I need a$$, that's it. No romance, no kino, no seducing them, I just want to get down to f*cking.
 

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It is amazing how there is a real rationing of sex, right at the moment I'm ready to lose my f*cking mind. Then it's down the road a piece, you know, until the next time I'm ready to lose my f*cking mind. I've realized for awhile now that there is little to no respect, only when I've signed the next deal, secured the next increment of resources, then I get a little bit of respect. Within a few days of either event, it's back to the f*ck off vibe from her. Wash, rinse, repeat, it's a merry go round that I'm tired of being on. The only thing literally that stops me from walking out is the kids. I've seen too many guys that see their kids literally next to no time at all. I don't want to be an absent father so I do my best to hold on.

The side piece thing, I've really only very recently started to seriously consider it. I realize that I'm not getting any younger and that I don't want to regret not using my d*ck time when I had it. She always uses excuses, she's tired, she's touched out, she doesn't like my behavior, whatever the f*ck it is stupid a$$ reason to cut me off, I'm honestly fed up. I'm not interested in gaming her, not interested in leading, I simply want to stick around for my kids and see where I can get some a$$ on the side to satisfy my carnal needs. I'd prefer not to pay for it but between career and kids, I don't have time to be chasing women around. Straight up, I need a$$, that's it. No romance, no kino, no seducing them, I just want to get down to f*cking.
This is a common theme brother. It’s a standard tool. Take you right to the edge and then give you some to keep you in a holding pattern.

Her game can sometimes be how creative she can be to prevent giving you any until the time is right or if she’s feeling a little horny.

This is a complete manipulation. But you are right about the kids. I salute you brother.

Do what’s right for you high speed. You will be ok.
 

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I don't advocate cheating, however ur case is unique, marriage in name only.

And you're tried everything for years, at least going by ur postings.

Once a women has lost complete respect for her husband there's little to go back to.

I remembered one of the mods here (@Desdinova i think) has a guidance booklet of some sort involving having a side dish.

PM him for it.

A man like you deserves some happiness and some kindness in ur life.
Dude, you have no idea, seriously, no idea. I'm literally tired of trying, I mean, what's the f*cking point? No matter how nice I am, how good of a husband, father, provider that I am, it doesn't matter. It's not appreciated, respected, it's expected.

The last attempt I actually made was last year. She had been nagging the living sh*t out of me that I don't do enough around the house, you know, after working my a$$ off 60+ hours a week to build a successful business, I now have to come home and work around the house too. I mean, I still did stuff around the house but not as much as she was wanting.

So, I literally kept a log for around 4 months or so of every single thing I did. No up tick in sex, no up tick in respect, pretty much zip. She said at one point that she noticed I was doing more and when I brought up at another point all the stuff I was doing, she said I could have simply written it down but never did it. It was at that point, I f*cking gave up. Why bother when there's no more respect or sex?
 
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