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Told ya he should went on the offensive at the start, created a narrative 1st before it got to this stage.

Now he has no choice but to be on the defensive.

This is typical boardroom director level playbook game.

Seems like Rollo has little experience at high level power play.

Now its he says you says with the narrative in favor of 21.
 

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Just want to add, their claims of gross impropriety sounds stupid with the narratives laid out, seems they too have little experiences running large organisations.

That's good news for Rollo, he still has a shot to turn this around in his favor, its defend position and then attack all the way, change the narrative, bring the fight to 21 itself.
 

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Just want to add, their claims of gross impropriety sounds stupid with the narratives laid out, seems they too have little experiences running large organisations.

That's good news for Rollo, he still has a shot to turn this around in his favor, its defend position and then attack all the way, change the narrative, bring the fight to 21 itself.
Yeah

One thing that makes them look bad is not wanting to give refunds. No refund clause or not. People who want a refund will be pissed off and their bank will likely side with them and reverse the charge.
 

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There's slso the fact the ADJ continued to promote Rollo as a speaker to sell tickets even though he was considering removing Rollo. Then he removes him and starts refusing refunds.
 

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There's slso the fact the ADJ continued to promote Rollo as a speaker to sell tickets even though he was considering removing Rollo. Then he removes him and starts refusing refunds.
Who is the ADJ?

With the exception of Sosuave, I don't read manosphere stuff nor am interested in it.

You need to elaborate for the sake of idiots like me.

As for Rollo, I'm only interested as he's a member here.
 

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Who is the ADJ?

With the exception of Sosuave, I don't read manosphere stuff nor am interested in it.

You need to elaborate for the sake of idiots like me.

As for Rollo, I'm only interested as he's a member here.
Anthony Dream Johnson
He's the 21 Studios Ceo. The guy who kicked Rollo out.
 

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Anthony Dream Johnson
He's the 21 Studios Ceo. The guy who kicked Rollo out.
Ah. I saw a video about his evil wife.

A man who goes about whining about evil women is no man to begin with. He has yet to learn how to be dismissive and move on.

Ironically, correct me if I'm wrong but she used to be a speaker on 21?

Aside from the drama etc, I personally think 21 is a good platform for men seeking answers but it's limited by its top leadership.

The CEO has no other worldly experience nor expertise in a vast array of fields (key towards acquiring wisdom) to be mentoring men.

Again correct me if I'm wrong, he's been doing just this since 17 right?
 

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Ah. I saw a video about his evil wife.

A man who goes about whining about evil women is no man to begin with. He has yet to learn how to be dismissive and move on.

Ironically, correct me if I'm wrong but she used to be a speaker on 21?

Aside from the drama etc, I personally think 21 is a good platform for men seeking answers but it's limited by its top leadership.

The CEO has no other worldly experience nor expertise in a vast array of fields (key towards acquiring wisdom) to be mentoring men.

Again correct me if I'm wrong, he's been doing just this since 17 right?
Yeah, there's videos of her doing interviews. Apparently she was prostituting behind his back.

Yeah, I think I read somewhere he has been doing this since a young age.
 

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Some people in the comments are falling for it
 

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Some people in the comments are falling for it
It's easily solved by politely escorting the reporter out and then re-engage her when needed.

All this useless drama over something so insignificant.

And I thought it's some earth shattering thing Rollo did that would reasonably warrant a removal.

It couldn't be just that, it has to be something else leading up to that otherwise it looks really lame.

If I was in Rollo's shoes I would be enjoying myself by turning the whole thing around to benefit me, maybe that's his play, if so that's interesting and a killer move.

That would be worthy of respect.
 

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You know what's really funny about this BS? On this report, they mention Rollo Tomassi... That's his pen name, not his real name.. They all sound and gang up on Rollo like a bunch of busy body ladies.
 

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Anthony is a pathetic pvssy. Saw it right off when he brought out all the charts to describe "dangerous" women. Shut the video down right there. Then that Socrates guy...hahahahaha Where do these hammer heads come from? It's like they were pulled out of magician's bag of old, lame, tricks.

I want Rollo to annihilate the whole organization and rebuild a new one. He needs to be much more aggressive with this.
 

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Anthony is a pathetic pvssy. Saw it right off when he brought out all the charts to describe "dangerous" women. Shut the video down right there. Then that Socrates guy...hahahahaha Where do these hammer heads come from? It's like they were pulled out of magician's bag of old, lame, tricks.

I want Rollo to annihilate the whole organization and rebuild a new one. He needs to be much more aggressive with this.

Again, they are a bunch of losers trying to capitalize on men finding their own. Anthony Dream Johnson? Who the fvck is this dude? What does he hope to dream of? Actually finding his own Johnson? The little dude lives with his sister in a run down home covered with Legend of Zelda posters. Socrates? That fat piece of sh!t.. Unreal. Another loser. No books. No shows. Nothing.

Only ones who have earned anything in this game are:

Donovan Sharpe (pen name)
Rollo Tomassi (pen name)
Rick "The D!ck" Cooper (real name. good channel, but a d!ck)
Red Pill Coach (pen name, known book and play writer)
Jack Donovan (real name - multiple book writer)
Dr. Shawn T. Smith (real name, psych doc)
Alan Roger Currie (real name - college speaker and multiple book writer)
AMS (pen name - book writer, and seems to know the game, grammar is a bit off though)

I don't know the rest of them. This Steve "The Dean" Williams... Geez.. I cannot believe he can pull anything now. Maybe 20 years ago. A ultra short black dude (5'5) with a huge gut.
 

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Again, they are a bunch of losers trying to capitalize on men finding their own. Anthony Dream Johnson? Who the fvck is this dude? What does he hope to dream of? Actually finding his own Johnson? The little dude lives with his sister in a run down home covered with Legend of Zelda posters. Socrates? That fat piece of sh!t.. Unreal. Another loser. No books. No shows. Nothing.

Only ones who have earned anything in this game are:

Donovan Sharpe (pen name)
Rollo Tomassi (pen name)
Rick "The D!ck" Cooper (real name. good channel, but a d!ck)
Red Pill Coach (pen name, known book and play writer)
Jack Donovan (real name - multiple book writer)
Dr. Shawn T. Smith (real name, psych doc)
Alan Roger Currie (real name - college speaker and multiple book writer)
AMS (pen name - book writer, and seems to know the game, grammar is a bit off though)

I don't know the rest of them. This Steve "The Dean" Williams... Geez.. I cannot believe he can pull anything now. Maybe 20 years ago. A ultra short black dude (5'5) with a huge gut.
Throughout my life I have observed men take from the producers in a company environment. You've listed the producers. The rest are just capitalizing con artists. They have lived their whole life fudging and convincing their way through life.

This is a concept we see every day. The non producers taking from the producers. In this situation I believe Rollo was just naive. He just assumed that others, because they all had the supposed same beliefs that he didn't have to concentrate on the use of persuasion and power on him. I've taken down two high level con artists in my day. It is very difficult because they understand plausible deniability. the average good intention man is easy prey for them.

The plausible deniability is a VERY useful tool. When they have conned the higher echelon person or persons...you have to use a very systematic and well thought out plan. Nothing you say will be heard if you attack them head on. Even if you can prove that he/she has produced absolutely nothing or produced a bastardized product it is extremely difficult as the con man has already planted a perception into the upper echelon person or persons. If you are willing to risk all...then you can pull it off. A job is easy for me to get so i have no problem risking all.
 

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Again, they are a bunch of losers trying to capitalize on men finding their own. Anthony Dream Johnson? Who the fvck is this dude? What does he hope to dream of? Actually finding his own Johnson? The little dude lives with his sister in a run down home covered with Legend of Zelda posters. Socrates? That fat piece of sh!t.. Unreal. Another loser. No books. No shows. Nothing.

Only ones who have earned anything in this game are:

Donovan Sharpe (pen name)
Rollo Tomassi (pen name)
Rick "The D!ck" Cooper (real name. good channel, but a d!ck)
Red Pill Coach (pen name, known book and play writer)
Jack Donovan (real name - multiple book writer)
Dr. Shawn T. Smith (real name, psych doc)
Alan Roger Currie (real name - college speaker and multiple book writer)
AMS (pen name - book writer, and seems to know the game, grammar is a bit off though)

I don't know the rest of them. This Steve "The Dean" Williams... Geez.. I cannot believe he can pull anything now. Maybe 20 years ago. A ultra short black dude (5'5) with a huge gut.
I'm completely in the dark on who's who, I haven't even read the Rational Male, saw a YouTube vid of his but its too long winded to keep me glued haha

But since many here vouched for him and his work then one must assume he's a solid guy and plus the fact that he's a member here then he does deserve moral support.

So I take it he's innocent of all charges and was mostly trump up by 21 ?
 

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I'm completely in the dark on who's who, I haven't even read the Rational Male, saw a YouTube vid of his but its too long winded to keep me glued haha

But since many here vouched for him and his work then one must assume he's a solid guy and plus the fact that he's a member here then he does deserve moral support.

So I take it he's innocent of all charges and was mostly trump up by 21 ?
I don’t watch their crap but from what I’ve put together, yes. Trumped.
But again there is plausible deniability, which IS evidence to me.
Rollo being naive, isn’t using plausible deniability so my full deck of cards are on him.

There will be plenty of stooges that will buy most anything coming from 21 of course, but Rollo has the power of positioning. It’s a sound upper hand if he figures out how to use it and doesn’t go into a shell.

Rollo has actual, factual, production and contribution. Three books.
Those little boys capitalizing? They have words and BPD crying towels.
 
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